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muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
Mon May 14, 2012, 08:50 AM May 2012

Castaway sues Princess Cruises over rescue failure

Source: BBC

A Panamanian fisherman who survived 28 days adrift in the Pacific and watched two companions die is suing the owners of a cruise ship that sailed past.

Adrian Vasquez has filed a lawsuit in Florida alleging negligence by Princess Cruises, his lawyer said.

The American cruise company has said it deeply regrets that one of its ships sailed past the dying men.

Passengers said they spotted the castaways and alerted staff, but the firm said the captain was not informed.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-18055087



I'd imagine the relatives of the dead men would have an even better case.
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Castaway sues Princess Cruises over rescue failure (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler May 2012 OP
R&K longship May 2012 #1
The captain was not informed.... I wonder if that is true.... secondwind May 2012 #2
Not likely Kalidurga May 2012 #3
I was wondering that, too obamanut2012 May 2012 #4
If the captain was informed, I suspect that buried somewhere in the enlightenment May 2012 #5
If this is the case then yesphan May 2012 #6
Even if unable to render assistance himself, he could have called in help. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #7
I'm going to assume that 'you' enlightenment May 2012 #11
No, no not YOU. AtheistCrusader May 2012 #12
If the captain let discipline slide so far that he wasn't told of a sighting, he's still responsible Recursion May 2012 #9
Numerous passengers saw the boat and informed the crew, going by the earlier stories. (nt) Posteritatis May 2012 #13
Commercial vessels often turn a blind eye Courtesy Flush May 2012 #8
Wow, what a horrible experience slackmaster May 2012 #10

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
3. Not likely
Mon May 14, 2012, 09:02 AM
May 2012

it is more likely it is a cover-up. The crew is no way going to leave themselves open to discipline by not telling the captain.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
5. If the captain was informed, I suspect that buried somewhere in the
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:18 AM
May 2012

rules and regulations is the written or unwritten threat that a captain will lose his job if he deviates from or causes a delay in the normal operation of a cruise.

At least I'd like to believe that it was fear, rather than a callous disregard for life, that prompted such inaction.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
6. If this is the case then
Mon May 14, 2012, 10:31 AM
May 2012

the rules themselves are based on a "callous disregard for life".
Somebody's gonna pay.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
7. Even if unable to render assistance himself, he could have called in help.
Mon May 14, 2012, 11:41 AM
May 2012

Shit, if I was the captain, I'd have done it not just because i'm a human being, but on the business side of the equation, the guests would have an amazing story to tell, and that cruise would become a major memory in their lives, the name of the cruise line would get free positive press and thus, free advertising, etc.

There is zero downside to doing it, even if the three human lives on the line aren't justification enough for you.

enlightenment

(8,830 posts)
11. I'm going to assume that 'you'
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:46 AM
May 2012

in the last sentence means 'people in general' rather than me in particular, because if that's what you got out of what I wrote, my writing skills have apparently hit rock bottom.

I was tossing out an idea - based on nothing but my thoughts - and commented that I hoped it was something other than the captain being a callous arse. That's all.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. No, no not YOU.
Wed May 16, 2012, 11:56 AM
May 2012

Sorry, that was a general 'anyone'.

If your suspicion about top-down pressure and fear was the situation for the Captain, and I were in his place, I would make exactly the case I just stated to my superiors. If they didn't like it, fine, I'd find another job.

There is no rational downside to helping, because benefits will come with it. One phone call to a major media outlet would ensure that.


I am sorry that sounded like I was attacking you, I did NOT mean it that way.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. If the captain let discipline slide so far that he wasn't told of a sighting, he's still responsible
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:16 PM
May 2012

That's the thing about being the Captain: even when it's not your fault, it's your fault.

Courtesy Flush

(4,558 posts)
8. Commercial vessels often turn a blind eye
Mon May 14, 2012, 12:06 PM
May 2012

I'm a recreational sailor. No offshore experience, but sailors tend to read accounts of real-life sea adventures ("Adrift" is a good example). Nearly all stories of survivors at sea tell the same story of ships passing, not seeing flares or other signals. If they see you, they're obligated to rescue you, and they'll lose money by putting themselves behind schedule.

In all fairness, those who get rescued quickly don't have a marketable story, so I don't want to accuse all ship captains of negligence.

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