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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:19 PM Sep 2015

Putin Says Fighting Islamic State in Syria Is Top Priority

Source: Bloomberg

By Henry Meyer, Anton Doroshev
September 15, 2015 — 5:25 AM EDT

Russian President Vladimir Putin said the fight against Islamic State should be the global community’s top priority in Syria, rather than changing the regime of Bashar al-Assad.

A broad coalition is needed to combat the threat posed by the terrorist group, which wants to spread its activities across Europe and Russia, Putin said on Tuesday at a security summit of ex-Soviet countries in Dushanbe, Tajikistan. It’s impossible to curb Islamic State without the Syrian army and Russia is backing President Assad’s government in fighting terrorism, including by providing military aid, he said.

“It’s necessary to think about the political transition in that country” and Assad is willing to “involve healthy opposition forces in the administration of the state,” Putin said. “But the focus today is definitely on the need to combine forces in the fight against terrorism.”

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‘Common Sense’

Countries need to “put aside geopolitical ambitions” as well as “direct or indirect use of terrorist groups to achieve” goals that include regime change, in order to counter the threat of Islamic State, Putin said. “Elementary common sense responsibility for global and regional security demands the collective effort of the international community.”

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-09-15/putin-says-global-community-must-unite-to-fight-islamic-state

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Putin Says Fighting Islamic State in Syria Is Top Priority (Original Post) Purveyor Sep 2015 OP
Not a fan of Putin, but he's right on this eissa Sep 2015 #1
^^^THIS katsy Sep 2015 #2
Agree. 840high Sep 2015 #19
Syrian refugees don't want to go to Russia. Kotya Sep 2015 #13
They want to go somewhere stable eissa Sep 2015 #17
is he TRYING to get us to fight alongside IS? MisterP Sep 2015 #3
Is it really his top priority? 6chars Sep 2015 #4
Umm, Russia and Syria have been allies for decades. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #7
Russian miltary base and airbase there would be a new development 6chars Sep 2015 #8
Actually, I think we should back off and let Russia and Iran handle this mess. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #11
Can't say I'd want to be shipped there 6chars Sep 2015 #12
Turkey said the same before they started bombing the Kurds. DetlefK Sep 2015 #5
Too bad the US doesn't have the same priorities. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #6
Tougher Ichigo Kurosaki Sep 2015 #9
Another glorious regime change operation. Comrade Grumpy Sep 2015 #10
Now that he's gotten and facilitated all the... Xolodno Sep 2015 #14
Former KGB trying to stop a gas pipeline from the Gulf states. roamer65 Sep 2015 #15
OMG jamzrockz Sep 2015 #18
I don't like Putin V0ltairesGh0st Sep 2015 #16
Add a step #6 to the "Assad strategy" for dealing with the opposition to dictators. pampango Sep 2015 #20

eissa

(4,238 posts)
1. Not a fan of Putin, but he's right on this
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 12:40 PM
Sep 2015

Now if only his country admitted in some of those refugees.

eissa

(4,238 posts)
17. They want to go somewhere stable
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 11:49 PM
Sep 2015

That will allow them work permits, will educate their children (many of whom have missed years of schooling because of the war), and will help them back on their feet. They're not looking to "mooch" -- they just need some assistance to once again lead a normal life.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
4. Is it really his top priority?
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:05 PM
Sep 2015

or is it to establish a Russian foothold in the Middle East again. He's saying the right things. I guess we can trust him from looking in his eyes.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
8. Russian miltary base and airbase there would be a new development
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 02:09 PM
Sep 2015

You can argue that the pros of this outweigh the cons, but it would be a substantial change.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/pentagon-confirms-russia-build-syria-n427051

6chars

(3,967 posts)
12. Can't say I'd want to be shipped there
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

In all likelihood, there is still a lot of blood that's going to be spilled before the mess is handled.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
6. Too bad the US doesn't have the same priorities.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 01:46 PM
Sep 2015

We're all about overthrowing Assad. How did that work out, by the way?

Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
14. Now that he's gotten and facilitated all the...
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:00 PM
Sep 2015

...Chechen Islamic Fundamentalist to join ISIS, he's got them right where he wants them. Stuck in a desert with no Caucus Mountains to hide them. Plus there isn't any "Press" to cover them in case of Geneva violations, they're going to play by the same rules as ISIS.

Sort of like what the Islamic Brotherhood did in Egypt, Military couldn't quash them for decades, once they over reached in the government, it was easy to pick them off....with support.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
15. Former KGB trying to stop a gas pipeline from the Gulf states.
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 05:38 PM
Sep 2015

While he may be right, it is a statement meant to obscure Russia's ambitions in Syria.

They don't want a regime in place in Syria that will allow a gas pipeline to Europe.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
18. OMG
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:34 AM
Sep 2015

This is the level of Putin derangement syndrome some people are suffering from. So let me get this straight, the current and legitimate govt of Syria says no to a pipeline and because of it, the west and Gulf states that support the pipeline attack Syria using proxy armies of terrorists and "moderate" jihadists and that for some reason is Putin trying to stop a pipeline?

I guess the rest of the world should get out of the way so that the western can bully any country they want into doing exactly that they ask of them, anything else would be people interfering with their desires.

 

V0ltairesGh0st

(306 posts)
16. I don't like Putin
Tue Sep 15, 2015, 06:34 PM
Sep 2015

but i do find myself agreeing with him some times.... sorta like Rand Pual.... but not exactly.....

pampango

(24,692 posts)
20. Add a step #6 to the "Assad strategy" for dealing with the opposition to dictators.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 06:04 AM
Sep 2015

1: When massive peaceful protests occur, repress them as them as violently as you can get away with - snipers, arrests, torture, etc.
2. This may work to quell the protests. If so, reward your military and security services and go back to being a dictator.
3. If #1 doesn't work right away and massive peaceful protests continue, keep up the repression. (You have to come up with a strategy to keep the international community at bay. A friend on the Security Council is useful for this.) Start talking about the presence of "criminal gangs" or "terrorists" among the protestors. There may not be any yet, but it's good to get the talking point out there for future use.
4. If your military and security forces continue to prove to be ineffective in suppressing dissent, don't worry. Keep up the armed repression. Eventually frustration will build up among factions of the protesters and some will become willing to resort to violence given the apparent futility of peaceful protest. Or outside groups will begin to take advantage of these frustrations.
5. At this point you can unleash your military and security forces to the full extent and hope you don't lose the civil war you have created.
6. If your military seems to be losing the civil war you have created, appeal to appeal to the international community to help you fight the terrorists - who weren't there in step #1 but are now.

I think this is a strategy that is workable in many repressive countries when populations get fed up with living with no rights.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=378947

This is from a 3/3/12 post.

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