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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:08 AM Sep 2015

Republican debate: Fact-checking the candidates

Source: CNN

Fact check: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he was named U.S. attorney by President George W. Bush on September 10, 2001.
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VERDICT: False
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Fact check: Donald Trump says Wisconsin is losing $2.2 billion.
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VERDICT: False
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Fact check: Bush says U.S. has failed to bolster ties to any nation under Obama.
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VERDICT: False
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Fact check: Trump says he never lobbied Bush for casinos in Florida.
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VERDICT: False
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Fact check: Bobby Jindal says letting more Syrian refugees into the U.S. would involve a circumvention of the normal immigrant vetting process.
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VERDICT: False

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/republican-debate-fact-check/index.html

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Republican debate: Fact-checking the candidates (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 OP
They either lie or are wrong 100% of the time. Scuba Sep 2015 #1
+100%! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #11
Now, now. But I do think the very idea of "fact-checking" Trump is funny! Hortensis Sep 2015 #13
They need to do the reverse... tecelote Sep 2015 #16
That would make for some pretty short lists. -none Sep 2015 #25
This is a pretty alarming group. PatrickforO Sep 2015 #2
And this is the best of the best of the GOP? SmittynMo Sep 2015 #3
Don't be so sure.... humbled_opinion Sep 2015 #23
They could easily pull it off. tabasco Sep 2015 #27
PP prevents 345,000 abortions per year bjobotts Sep 2015 #21
Where's Fiorina's fetus with beating heart and kicking legs? peacebird Sep 2015 #4
CNN called it misleading but not false: "CNN Fact check: Carly Fiorina says a Planned Parenthood Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #5
CNN has gone clear over to the dark side. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #10
With M$NBC on their heels in a race to the bottom Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #12
Yes, indeed. I will not watch either one or the other networks. They do not deserve us. Enthusiast Sep 2015 #14
Sometimes a cervix is unable to stay closed and will allow a larger fetus to drop. It is very DhhD Sep 2015 #22
From the title of the OP... freebrew Sep 2015 #6
I was gonna post The Onion article but the CNN reportage was funnier Attorney in Texas Sep 2015 #7
Good one,, you win...lol freebrew Sep 2015 #8
The title made me laugh hibbing Sep 2015 #15
If you mute, and just watch their mouths move CanonRay Sep 2015 #9
The scorecard Jimbo S Sep 2015 #17
It is a fact Trump let Gadaffi set-up a tent on his USA property. must have been buddies back then? Sunlei Sep 2015 #18
Today's Borowitz Report ... staggerleem Sep 2015 #19
Republicans doing what they do best... KansDem Sep 2015 #20
Oh come now, they weren't lying. Not at all. Obviously lying in public? -none Sep 2015 #26
Hello folks Brian here Wash. state Desk Jet Sep 2015 #24

tecelote

(5,122 posts)
16. They need to do the reverse...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:54 AM
Sep 2015

Truth Checking.

Just list what they said that is based upon the truth.

It'll save them a lot of time.

-none

(1,884 posts)
25. That would make for some pretty short lists.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:12 AM
Sep 2015

You gotta remember these guys make up their own reality as they go along. The real stuff is a hindrance and annoyance to them.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
23. Don't be so sure....
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:30 PM
Sep 2015

If we are not energized against them it could very well be a trump victory scary to think about it but many of the rethugs at my job say it will serve you Democrats right when Trump takes his pen and phone and usurps the constitution to enforce or not enforce laws he likes or does not like regardless of what congress wants and oh yeah that precedent was set by your blind worship of the man in the white house now.... I hear crap like that everyday the real bothersome part is that if he does win it is going to be a rough 4 years ahead.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
27. They could easily pull it off.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:50 AM
Sep 2015

The plutocracy owns the media and it spews right-wing propaganda 24/7. Citizens United has made it much worse. The plutocracy can now run unlimited de facto campaign ads. Propaganda works and that is why crazed, radical republicans control two-thirds of our government.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
21. PP prevents 345,000 abortions per year
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:54 PM
Sep 2015

from Nicholas Kristoff’s article in NYT "…This in a country where half of all pregnancies are unintended, where 30 percent of American teenage girls become pregnant by age 19.

The Guttmacher Institute, which studies reproductive health, calculates that Title X family planning centers (PP) prevent about one million unintended pregnancies a year, of which 345,000 would have ended in abortion. It says that every year Title X clinics (PP) avert some 53,000 cases of chlamydia and 8,800 cases of gonorrhea, and save the lives of 1,100 women who would otherwise die of cervical cancer.

In other words, Title X prevents an abortion about once every 90 seconds...."
This should be shoved in the faces of all those ignorant or misinformed senators who voted to defund Planned Parenthood as they have no idea how much good this organization provides. Eat this Cruz...you're a liar.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
5. CNN called it misleading but not false: "CNN Fact check: Carly Fiorina says a Planned Parenthood
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 09:44 AM
Sep 2015

video shows a "fully formed fetus on the table, with its heart beating, its legs kicking."

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Fiorina was referring to a video released by the anti-abortion group The Center for Medical Progress last month, in which a former worker for StemExpress, a biomedical research company, said she saw a fully formed fetus's heart beating.

"This is the most gestated fetus and closest thing to a baby I've ever seen," Holly O'Donnell, a former procurement technician for StemExpress, said in the video. "I'm sitting here looking at this fetus and its heart is beating and I don't know what to do."

The clip does show what appears to be a fully formed fetus on an operating table with its legs twitching. But the clip Fiorina references is not part of the CMP sting video but was instead taken by another anti-abortion group and was added to the sting video. The Center for Medical Progress, however, doesn't explain where the fetus video was shot, so it's not clear whether it was taken at a Planned Parenthood clinic. For its part, the women's health organization has flatly denied the accusations.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
22. Sometimes a cervix is unable to stay closed and will allow a larger fetus to drop. It is very
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 04:55 PM
Sep 2015

sad. The mother makes the decision to have the fetus cared for in several different legal ways. One way is for the fetus to be buried in a cemetery.

How hateful for a matter like this to be brought up and used in a lie.

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
15. The title made me laugh
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:37 AM
Sep 2015

They all just spew whatever comes out of their mouths because they all know there will be no repercussions. It will be interesting to watch how the corporate media will try to influence the process so their masters' preferences get the nominations.

Peace

CanonRay

(14,099 posts)
9. If you mute, and just watch their mouths move
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 11:03 AM
Sep 2015

you still know they are lying. It's really quite amazing. I highly recommend it for their next debate.

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
17. The scorecard
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:07 PM
Sep 2015

True = 4
Mostly True = 0
True, But Misleading = 5
False = 6
Complicated = 2

So they batted 0.239. Time to go back to the minors.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
18. It is a fact Trump let Gadaffi set-up a tent on his USA property. must have been buddies back then?
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 12:21 PM
Sep 2015

In the days when Bush and Gaddafi made photos together and let the creepy Gaddafi have a crush on as he called her, lovely "Lizaaaa".

How come none of the republican clown show bring up the Gaddafi days? The man died with a solid gold , diamond encrusted gun in his position and owned land in New York City.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
19. Today's Borowitz Report ...
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 01:55 PM
Sep 2015

... says that the fact checking proved the entire debate to be 4% true, and that Jake Tapper was happy with his performance in keeping things relatively fact-free. It still, however, did not equal the 3% truth-content in the FIRST Republican debate, last month!

-none

(1,884 posts)
26. Oh come now, they weren't lying. Not at all. Obviously lying in public?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 10:27 AM
Sep 2015

Naaa... It is just that they make up their own reality as they go along. They act as if two consecutive, diametrically opposed view points can both be true and reflect actual facts. Never mind the average 3rd grader knows something is wrong with that. They think everyone else should just acceptt what they say at face value.
Lying? For them, that is what Democrats do when the Dems disagree and prove them wrong with real facts.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
24. Hello folks Brian here
Thu Sep 17, 2015, 05:53 PM
Sep 2015
https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/W8fFifSvUovgiaRwaUJ6aw--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NDIwO3E9OTU7dz02MzA-/

Folks I know you all know I have been a dirty lying POS of worst possible kind. I have been branded and out casted . I had to live with myself and those lies having been shut out of public life, left alone with the guilt and the humiliation of having been outed.
And I am a better journalist today for it. I'm a changed man today folks and I'm here to tell you I am a truth seeker .
And my mission in life is to search out and expose public figures that are liars wherever they may be.


I am here today to tell you there was not a single truth teller in those debates ,the truth is they are all liars.
Trust me folks, I have changed !

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