Post-Debate Poll Shows New GOP Frontrunner Has Emerged

[StevieM]

Source: Truth In Media

CALIFORNIA, September 18, 2015– On Wednesday, 11 Republican presidential primary candidates took their hard-earned places behind their respective podiums on stage at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library. The first post-debate poll has been released, and Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of HP, is now a front-runner for the Republican nomination.

A strong performance in the first debate on the under-card stage thrust Fiorina onto the main stage for Wednesday’s CNN debate. Many questioned whether or not she’d continue to impress, or if she would buckle under the pressure.

After the debate, those who underestimated Fiorina were silenced. According to Robert Herring, Sr., CEO of One America News Network, the One America News national post-debate poll conducted by Gravis Marketing, a non-partisan research firm, shows it’s all Fiorina coming out of the second debate.

Taken immediately after the debate, the Gravis poll shows Fiorina jumping to first place at 22 percent, tied with Donald Trump. OAN’s previous national poll, conducted on September 3-4, showed the former HP top executive in seventh place with 2.7 percent.

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Read more: http://truthinmedia.com/post-debate-poll-fiorina-gop-front-runner/

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It looks like Fiorina and Rubio were the big winners of the debate. Ben Carson seems to be the big loser.

Here is a link to the poll that was taken:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/281579691/One-America-News-Gravis-Marketing-Post-Debate

[NYCButterfinger]

1. I told you guys underestimate Fiorina at your own peril.

She is a nasty candidate, full of tough talk. She will be on the vice presidential list, along with Thune, Ayotte, Martinez, Haslam, and even Duncan Hunter, Jr. But the crazies in the GOP are already losing it with Trump.

[Trajan]

26. I don't buy it ...

Just because she won one single debate, it doesn't make her a freekin Godzilla ...

Your hyperactive concern is duly noted ... Again ... And again ....

[question everything]

28. Actually, she won two debates

yes, including the mini one in Fox.

I think that it is a clear that she is a good debater but this does not mean that she can be a good candidate or, heavens forbids, a good president.

Even the WSJ opined: Ms. Fiorina, who said she wouldn’t talk to Mr. Putin at all because “we’ve talked to him way too much.” That is unrealistic.

[Fred Sanders]

2. Flavor of the month is "dead baby parts ripped from the womb while still squirming baby is on a table"!

Those liberals are truly monsters.....defund everything!!

Judged by CNN tall foreheads to be "true, but misleading". Which describes CNN perfectly.

What the double fuck??

I really do think the mass media is mocking all of us knowing there is little we can do to mock them in return.

[staggerleem]

9. As long as we have Stephen Colbert on our side ...

... the mocking continues, unabated.

He opened the monologue Wednesday night with "The 2nd Republican Presidential Debate was on CNN earlier tonight. I didn't watch it, in keeping with the long-standing American tradition of not watching CNN."

[SeattleVet]

3. The only reason she's polling higher right now is...

that she out-lied the rest of that pack of sorry gits.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017294599

Leave it to them to always lean toward the one that is the furthest off the rails.

[Blus4u]

29. ^^^^THIS^^^^

They all are a bunch of the lyingest batards ever assembled, and she out lied them all!

And CNN did not call any of them out on any of it!

[cheapdate]

38. I symapthize, but it's not the job of the debate moderator

to dispute claims, or to participate at all, really.

I truly cannot stand the absurd spectacle of televised "debates". They have almost no connection to the process of contesting ideas that the word "debate" implies.

We are an Idiocracy and televised debates are just another reality show.

[Rafale]

4. Hey

Jesus.

[katmondoo]

5. Listening to Carla Fiorina made me a full supporter of Hillary Clinton

I still like Bernie

[staggerleem]

6. Another non-surprise.

Of course she's now the Republican front runner - she told the debate's biggest lie, didn't she? (see the current "Pic of the Moment.) That's gotta count for SOMETHING, doesn't it?

[Auggie]

7. They'll all start talking tougher now

[PatSeg]

13. How true!

Republicans lack originality. They'll mimic anything they think will work for them.

[bluestateguy]

8. Gravis Marketing pushes agendas and is not be taken seriously

They did all kinds of kooky polls in 2012.

I'll take Fox News polls more seriously than them.

[global1]

10. The Debate Should Have Been Called - The Biggest Liar....

other names could be - America's Got Liars; Amazing Racists; Survivor - Outwit, OutLie, Outlast; Dancing With The Liars; Rehash Addicts; - I'm sure that others here have other choice names.

This is the ultimate reality show and the American People love it based on the ratings.

[LongTomH]

11. the perfect candidate for today's GOP..............

......full of righteous anger for something that didn't happen, able to lie with a straight face, and with absolutely NO experience in office!

Of course, she does have experience destroying American jobs, which may endear her to the Bros. Koch!

Oh, God! Do we have to look forward to months of her appearing on every newscast?

[erronis]

33. I'm guessing the RNC has a planned rotation for each of the wieners

Next up in the deli hot-dog skewer, Ben Carson!!!!! Get him while he's hot!

Crispie is coming around. Do you want a bun with him or is he already breaded?

Pretty soon you'll be able to get 2 or 3 wieners on a stick for only $1.99. (You'll need to buy a Big Slurp to wash them down, tho.)

[rurallib]

12. May she do for the Republican Party what she did for HP

She has the talent

[chapdrum]

14. "took their hard-earned places..."?

Who writes, and believes, this shite?

[Mass]

15. Poll of people who saw the debate.

and Gravis is the pollster, and a lousy one.

So, this has exactly 0 value.

[StevieM]

23. OK. Points taken.

I just wanted to show the latest info. I didn't think it had exactly zero value. It was an opportunity to discuss the latest trends emerging from the debate, namely Fiorina's ability to acquire a large reward by being the biggest liar on the stage.

I agree that the polls coming in a couple days, from all the primary voters, will be the better ones for the purpose of establishing where everyone currently stands.

[sadoldgirl]

16. Of course they all lied

The two biggest liars were Fiorina about the tape,
and Jeb! with his brother having kept us safe.

And both got the biggest applause. Figures!

[lark]

17. She's definitely one of the biggest liars.

Her made up story about Planned Parenthood is sickening and totally, 100%, false. She didn't win in CA because they caught her lying so much, and that will also keep her out of the presidency. Of course, this doesn't disqualify her with Repugs who are totally OK with their own lying, as long as the lies fit the narrative they want. It will disqualify her with Independents, however.

Jebs lies about his brother are also OK with the base, since they don't face facts well. It too, will really turn off Independents who know that 9/11 and Katrina and Iraq all happened on his watch. Probably the worst record of any president, ever. That will definitely keep Jebbie out of the WH.

[StevieM]

22. Fiorina is starting to remind me of Romney.

They both share a certain care-free indifference towards the truth.

Remember Romney's top hits? President Obama didn't call the Benghazi attacks an act of terror? The American Enterprise Institute is a non-partisan group?

[TheBlackAdder]

18. Is that why CNN carried the RNC's water, by defending her Planned Parenthood lies?

.


They are trying to replace Trump or weaken as the frontrunner?

Or do they want things competitive to drive up viewership even more?

.

[erronis]

34. Ya know, I wish those media congomerates would all sit down together

And get their fabrications and spiel synchronized. It makes a real person's head spin.

AFAI Can Tell, CNN, MSNBC, Disney, ABC, CBS, (and perhaps NPR) are all owned/controlled by the same potentates.

You know, if the donald was to be in charge, he'd have them all in line, licking his boots/etc.

[still_one]

19. Her position on vaccinations is they shouldn't be required to attend public school

[True Blue American]

20. Jeb Forgot

9/11 ,three thousand dead,plus the thousands of dead Military and the thousands of gravely wounded.

[SoapBox]

21. Yuk.

She's a liar...and she hates workers...

[Helen Borg]

24. At least she did not say...

That Satanic rituals were performed on newborn babies at PP!

[hamsterjill]

25. Hopefully, this will make Fiorina the target of the others.

Let them dig up some dirt on her in the primary. I think there's a lot there for the digging, but I second the up post stating not to underestimate her.

[Attorney in Texas]

27. This is an IVR poll by Gravis so enjoy it with a generous helping of salt

Interactive voice response polling has a mixed record of reliability, and Gravis is a subpar pollster.

I expect Fiorina and Rubio to move up and perhaps Carson to dip slightly, but I don't expect such dramatic movement.

[AKing]

30. Gravis has been way,way,off in the past. I'm fairly certain they were guaranteeing a Mittens Romney

[StevieM]

31. Fair points. I agree that this poll isn't as indicative of the state of the race as the ones that

will come out in the coming days. So take it for what it's worth.

I just wanted to highlight the current trends and who seems to have won and lost ground as a result of the debate.

The real message from this poll is that Carly Fiorina has been richly rewarded for lying through her teeth.

[Attorney in Texas]

36. I agree. It is interesting data, but it is data than may prove to be an outlier (Real Clear Politics

excludes Gravis polls from its aggregator because of the history of inaccuracy but Huffington Post's pollster includes Gravis polls and 538 considers them but at a reduced weight).

As long as you take the polling for what its worth, it is still useful information.

[StevieM]

37. For whatever it is worth, here is another poll from Morning Consult.

http://morningconsult.com/2015/09/poll-fiorina-wins-debate-trump-still-leads/

[Attorney in Texas]

41. Gravis has Trump and Fiorina tied at 22%; Morning Consult has trump at 36% and Fiorina at 10%. One

of these two polls (or possibly both) grossly misses the mark.

I suspect that Gravis will be proven to be the outlier.

[PADemD]

32. Trump 41% in our local poll.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/09/poll_who_won_the_second_gop_pr.html

[blackspade]

35. Never mind that Fiorina is a lying sack of shit....

Not that M$M will do their job and call her out on it.

[PSPS]

39. Yes, according to "One America News Network" - the RW/Moonie network that thinks Fox is too liberal.

[Lychee2]

40. This is just a little bump.

She will never get the nomination. The Democrats would tear her to shreds for her record at HP and elsewhere, and the RNC knows that.