US-trained Division 30 rebels 'betrayed US and hand weapons over to al-Qaeda's affiliate in Syria'

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Source: TelegraphUK

Pentagon-trained rebels in Syria are reported to have betrayed their American backers and handed their weapons over to al-Qaeda in Syria immediately after re-entering the country.
Fighters with Division 30, the “moderate” rebel division favoured by the United States, surrendered to the al-Qaeda-affiliated Jabhat al-Nusra, a raft of sources claimed on Monday night.

Division 30 was the first faction whose fighters graduated from a US-led training programme in Turkey which aims to forge a force on the ground in Syria to fight against Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Isil).

A statement on Twitter by a man calling himself Abu Fahd al-Tunisi, a member of al-Qaeda’s local affiliate Jabhat al-Nusra, read: "A strong slap for America... the new group from Division 30 that entered yesterday hands over all of its weapons to Jabhat al-Nusra after being granted safe passage.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11882195/US-trained-Division-30-rebels-betrayed-US-and-hand-weapons-over-to-al-Qaedas-affiliate-in-Syria.html

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Maybe we should just team up with the Russians and clean out the whole country

[Scootaloo]

1. I'm reminded of a Bushism.

"You know what they say; fool me once, shame - shame on you. Fool me twice, uh, Uh, uh,... can't get fooled again"

This has only happened once or every fucking time.

[ozone_man]

2. Possibly, but why are we even there?

Trying to overthrow a secular government that has kept these Islamic radicals under control? It makes no sense.
Let Russia and Iran deal with it.
We have done enough damage there to last generations.

[bluedigger]

3. Pentagon To Bypass Iraqi Army And Supply ISIS Directly

WASHINGTON — Recognizing the need for a new strategy to fight ISIS, the Pentagon announced today that it would no longer supply the Iraqi Army with American vehicles, artillery and rifles, and instead would supply materiel directly to ISIS.

CENTCOM spokesman Air Force Col. Patrick Ryder says the idea “would be a game changer.”

The plan has its roots in Army Capt. Noel Abelove’s PowerPoint briefing, which was hailed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, sources said. Abelove, a supply officer on the Joint Logistics Staff (J-4), realized that cutting out the Iraqi Army middlemen had numerous advantages.

“They taught me at West Point that ‘amateurs talk strategy but professionals talk logistics,’” Abelove told reporters. “The most important advantage is, we only supply about 40 percent of each ISIS requisition.”

Abelove continued: “Before, when we gave the [Iraqi] Army 100 percent, then we had to fly strike missions to destroy a lot of it a week or two later. This way we immediately degrade ISIS by over 60 percent, without having to use our increasingly scarce missiles and JDAMs, and more importantly, without having to put any airmen into harm’s way.”



Read more: http://www.duffelblog.com/2015/06/pentagon-to-supply-isis-directly/#ixzz3mWJX4VEI

[TwilightGardener]

4. So in July/August, someone decided to send out the first group of 50 or so, who were

promptly captured, killed or otherwise disappeared, and it was a fiasco, and there's only 5 left of the original graduating class, according to sad testimony by the Pentagon last week. And then this week, we send out the next class of 75 (and announce it!), and they are also promptly captured or waylaid by the SAME AQ outfit. So instead of halting the program and keeping the fighters safe for a while until we reconfigure our goals, they send almost the same-sized group to further doom, failure, and/or betrayal. Boggles the mind. Who is in charge? John Allen is stepping down to email some more socialites and only Gen. Austin has answered for anything thus far. Dempsey is out this week or very soon. And Russia is now forcing us to coordinate with them. It's a train wreck.

[kelliekat44]

5. This is exactly why the hawks are wrong. Obama was right in not going all out to arm the

so-called "moderates" in Syria. We didn't know then and don't know now who the hell they are.

[YabaDabaNoDinoNo]

6. Cue Nelson Laugh We, as in the US Gov, have been training and arming ME groups for decades

Don't forget OBL was US Trained and was provided weapons and arms as was Saddam and they always turn on us.

Here is a novel idea, get the F out of the Middle East and let them run their own country and sell their oil to whom ever they want.

[4dsc]

7. Maybe we should be training the Kurds instead

we all know they'll do the job against ISIS.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

8. If we help the Kurds, we piss of the Turks ...

... and we can't have that, we have air bases in Turkey.

[Javaman]

10. Turkey will eventually have to give it up and cede land to the Kurds.

they just having evolved to that point yet, but they will.

[Javaman]

9. freedom is on the...something. nt