Mike Huckabee Has The Most Absurd Reaction To Obama's Pope Francis Remarks

[George II]

Source: Right Wing Watch - People for the American Way

Submitted by Brian Tashman on Wednesday, 9/23/2015 2:20 pm

At a White House ceremony welcoming Pope Francis today, President Obama called out violence against Christians around the world and thanked Francis for speaking out about such persecution:

"You remind us that people are only truly free when they can practice their faith freely. Here in the United States, we cherish religious liberty. Yet around the world at this very moment, children of God, including Christians, are targeted and even killed because of their faith. Believers are prevented from gathering at their places of worship. The faithful are imprisoned. Churches are destroyed. So we stand with you in defense of religious freedom and interfaith dialogue, knowing that people everywhere must be able to live out their faith free from fear and intimidation."

Mike Huckabee, however, took issue with Obama’s remarks… because of Kim Davis:

The Obama administration, of course, had nothing to do with Davis’ case, as Huckabee’s Vine implied.

But it revealed how the Religious Right thinks about “persecution.”

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His "campaign" is flailing, so he has to flail equally. How insane is this guy?

[Fred Sanders]

1. The thing is the GOP has lined up 17 insane candidates and one of them HAS to win one of two

slots the rigged American electoral system permits for the top job.

That is what is really scary, not just any one of the individual monsters they call "candidates".

Picking off duck by duck is not enough, the whole carnival act needs to be closed.

[Suich]

2. "How insane is this guy?"

Is that a rhetorical question???

[jberryhill]

3. Philadelphia is practically shut down for his visit...

...and Huckleberry goes on about persecution of Christians.

It's kind of funny, really.

[leftynyc]

19. The NYPD just sent out and posted

the street closures for the next two days - it's 4 pages long.

[C_U_L8R]

4. Did the Pope show up at the Huckabee's house?

I didn't think so.
Chucklenuts the Clown needs to learn a little humility.

[dembotoz]

5. He needs to build his brand while he can so that live off it for the next few years

$$$$
Speaking fees
Guest shots
Maybe another gig on TV...Pat Robertson has to die sometime

High enuf profile brings in high enuf $$$$

[bucolic_frolic]

6. If we cherish religious liberty

why doesn't he just STFU so we can be free of his religious dogma?

[stupidicus]

7. rightwingers are rarely as crazy as they can be, which is why they're so dangerous

they are as crazy as they want or need to be...

[WhiteHat]

8. The American Taliban is losing

Thank heavens.

The narrow-minded campaign platform of Mike Huckabee might be the last hurrah of reactionary religious negativity in US politics. It's never been more than a small fraction of the GOP program, and Huckabee seems determined to ride the bomb all the way to impact. After all, it's all he's got.

[atreides1]

14. Maybe

But when you have a rabid animal cornered, is when it's the most dangerous!

Huckabee and his ilk are as rabid as they come, and a threat to this country!

[NonMetro]

9. On CNN today, Huckabee Said Obama Is "Pretending" To Be A Christian.

And then acting to deny people the right to practice their faith.

Well, how do we know Mike isn't pretending? Frankly, I think he is. He has shamelessly used religion to gain political power, just as he shamelessly uses it now to try to discredit the president.

[blackspade]

10. Hucklenuts has an absurd reaction to reality.

[MisterP]

11. is Huckabuck saying criticism of IS is hypocritical?

[tclambert]

12. It is persecution of Christians when you don't allow them to persecute others.

[Igel]

13. One could spin it differently.

Obama said how great we are and how all the problems are others.

The response was, "We have problems, too."


It's worth pointing out that quite often when Obama says we have problems, the response is, "But look at all the problems others have" and those making such assertions are roundly condemned and pilloried.

The difference seems whether one likes the problems or what's causing the problem more, not the fact that some are being harrassed or harried. Who the persecuted and who the blessed are matter greatly when one's bias is screaming out, like the flower in The Little Shop of Horrors, "Feed me!"

It's like having a whole hothouse of the little beasties. "Feed me!" "No, feed me!" "Feed me!"

[Midnight Writer]

15. Wasn't Huckabee leaving the Republican Party

Because they were not strong enough in their opposition to gay marriage?

[yellowcanine]

16. Once again, Kim Davis WAS NOT jailed for being a Christian.

She was jailed for disobeying a lawful order from a judge. There are ways she could have obeyed the judge and still not violated her religious beliefs. If she had chosen to do so. She chose the martyr path instead.

[COLGATE4]

17. Enough said

[workinclasszero]

21. That says it all

It makes me violently ill to see these damn liars claim they are persecuted like the Jews were in Nazi fucking Germany!

OMG! I am a Christian, there are Christian churches on practically every corner in every town in america and guess what?

NONE OF THEM are being burnt down to the ground! Nobody is being dragged to a concentration death camp either!

But just because a highly paid public official doenst want to do her job, well hey, we are all living in nazi Germany!

[47of74]

27. I remember what former Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams said;

Lord Williams had some choice words for these "Christians"

Christians in Britain and the US who claim that they are persecuted should "grow up" and not exaggerate what amounts to feeling "mildly uncomfortable", according to Rowan Williams, who last year stepped down as archbishop of Canterbury after an often turbulent decade.

"When you've had any contact with real persecuted minorities you learn to use the word very chastely," he said. "Persecution is not being made to feel mildly uncomfortable. 'For goodness sake, grow up,' I want to say."

True persecution was "systematic brutality and often murderous hostility that means that every morning you wonder if you and your children are going to live through the day". He cited the experience of a woman he met in India "who had seen her husband butchered by a mob".

I remember back in 2012 when the Bishops of the Catholic Church got on their kick about how persecuted they were that people were getting afordable health care. I was so disgusted I threw up my arms and said that's it and left the church. I had been thinking of leaving for several years before that but stayed, their complaining about being persecuted was the straw that broke my back.

[workinclasszero]

30. It makes me sick

what the republican party has done to the Christian church in America.

It has pretty much destroyed it and replaced the love of God for sinners to randian hate for the non-rich/middle class and tribal racial intolerance.

[workinclasszero]

18. How insane is this guy?

As insane as all republicans who work for a living and vote for billionaires that promise to screw them and their families if elected, over and over again.

Because non white people scare them and...reasons.

[47of74]

28. There are some questions I no longer ask.

Such as how low can Rush Limbaugh go or how insane Mike Fuckabee is. Because the moment I think I've figured it out guys like this do or say something worse.

[workinclasszero]

29. Right.

Since the rise of hate radio, the tea party, swift boaters, birthers, etc, the republican party has no bottom, no depths that it won't sink to.

[closeupready]

20. Even before I opened this thread, I knew gays would configure in Huckabee's

remarks. Because, duh, obviously, it's another day.

Waiting with baited breath for today's Huckabee pronouncement on gays or gay sex.

[Lychee2]

23. "Baited" breath?

Have you been eating chum?

[closeupready]

25. Tuna, to be honest - and pun DEFINITELY NOT intended.

Hehe

[COLGATE4]

31. Why, yes I have. And don't call me Chum, Buddy. nt

[Lychee2]

35. Have people been avoiding you, Mr. Mason?

Did you ever think it might be....your breath?

Try Colgate! It gets rid of that offensive fish bait morning breath odor in a jiffy!

[COLGATE4]

36. Confucius says: bad breath

better than no breath at all.

[Lychee2]

37. LOL.

+1.

[leftyladyfrommo]

22. Huckabee probably thinks the Pope is the Antichrist

and Obama is too.

[47of74]

26. Yeah there's not much love lost between the Catholics and the far reich wing "Christians"

The only reason the far reich wing "Christians" tolerate the Catholics is because they can use the Catholics to get votes by making the correct noises about abortion and gay marriage.

At one time these people were pro choice and saw abortion as just a Catholic issue. It wasn't until they decided that being anti-abortion would get them Catholic support.

[leftyladyfrommo]

38. This Pope is especially bad for people like Huckabee

He believes in climate change and helping the poor and spreading the wealth around.

Huckabee would hate those ideas.

[Lychee2]

24. Doesn't anyone want to take on the argument?

Or are you just going to continue throwing tomatoes at the guy?

His point is that Kim Davis has been denied religious freedom because she is being forced to do something that is contrary to her religious beliefs.

The answer to this point is that the right to religious liberty is not absolute. It can be overridden by other rights.

Her's an example: Jehovah's Witnesses refuse transfusions when their children need one, because it says in the Bible to "abstain from blood." Then the doctors get a court order to force the parents to allow the transfusion. This is justified because the child's right to life is a more important consideration than the parents' right to practice this aspect of their religion.

Similarly, the harm and injustice to gay couples outweighs the religious liberty of officials who would otherwise refuse to grant the couples a license for matrimony.

[ancianita]

32. Argument: She chose her belief system over doing her job. Jesus would say, resign,

because "render unto Caesar..." etc., etc. Jesus would say she's too selfish about her pay, though, to really, really sacrifice her job, overall, for her beliefs.

Philosophical argument: The object of any obligation is always the human being -- not de facto jurisprudence, custom, social structure, historical heritage, or force capability -- certainly not another human's belief system.

No belief should be honored at the expense of the obligation to honor the free wills of others who are entitled to use systems that sustain life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

There is no moral obligation but to human life's good and welfare. It's an international convention, as well.

[NickB79]

33. She was forced to do no such thing

His point is that Kim Davis has been denied religious freedom because she is being forced to do something that is contrary to her religious beliefs.

Kim Davis is not officiating a gay marriage.

She is not a pastor, or a priest, or a judge permitted to perform marriages.

Her job, her ONE FUCKING JOB, is to review a marriage license and certify that the applicants meet the STATE'S requirements for legal marriage. Not her personal requirements, not her religion's requirements, but a secular state body.

Signing her name in no way confers her approval of gay marriage.

There was NO conflict between her religion and her job, until she CREATED such a conflict.

[Lychee2]

34. If she doesn't do as required, she will lose her job.

If you don't think economic threats like that are force, you are not a liberal or a progressive.

Note: I am not defending Davis. I am saying your criticism of her doesn't work. Mine does.

[uriel1972]

41. Kim Davis has not been denied religious freedom...

She has been denied the opportunity to be a rabid bigot.

[WestSeattle2]

39. The man is mentally unstable. Sounds like Pat Robertson.

[Adenoid_Hynkel]

40. Who gives a shit what Josh Duggar, Kenneth Copeland and Jim Bakker's pal thinks?

This guy has no credibility on anything.