Hillary Clinton Says She Cannot Explain Why Previously Undisclosed Emails Turned Up

[Jesus Malverde]

Source: NY Times

Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday that she could not fully explain the discovery of a string of work emails sent from her personal account more than two months earlier than when she has said she first began using that address as secretary of state. But she said she hoped voters would look past what she called the “drip, drip, drip” of the furor over her emails.

“There was a transition period. You know, I wasn’t that focused on my email,” Mrs. Clinton said on “Meet the Press,” when asked about emails sent from her personal account in her first two months after taking office in January 2009. Mrs. Clinton had previously said she did not begin using a clintonemail.com address for State Department business until that March.

The State Department said on Friday that Mrs. Clinton had exchanged emails in late January and February 2009 with Gen. David H. Petraeus, then the commander of the United States Central Command.

Pressed to explain the discrepancy, Mrs. Clinton said it was beyond her technical understanding.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/09/27/hillary-clinton-says-she-cannot-explain-why-previously-undisclosed-emails-turned-up/

[yeoman6987]

1. Ok I support Hillary but even I think that's funny.

[starroute]

4. Funny ha-ha or funny weird?

[yeoman6987]

7. Funny that she would say that on national TV

[roguevalley]

72. Oh my god. She should have blitzed them with stuff when this started.

Full and complete disclosure and compliance. This isn't about them being a-holes about this which they are, this is about her killing a fire before it becomes enormous. She didn't. Now with her holding back for months and months its coming around to kill her. She has no political sense. This should have been totally exposed at the start so the drip and the impressions of hiding serious stuff wouldn't be hanging off her like Christmas ornaments. Her secrecy is going to be the end of her ambitions.

[Lychee2]

89. Here's a question for you.

Why didn't she do a full and complete disclosure right away? It's not because she "has no political sense," as you put it. She has plenty, and she also has Bill's political advice to guide her.

There must be a good reason why she has not been fully open. Whatever is in those emails must so bad that it outweighs the political cost of hiding it.

[jtuck004]

2. They should be grilling the network admin. She doesn't/shouldn't know this crap. n/t

[jeff47]

6. She shouldn't know when she started using her own email? (nt)

[6chars]

26. i don't remember when i started various email accounts

did i ever have an aol one? i don't even know

[CanadaexPat]

32. Then she shouldn't have said she did remember.

[jeff47]

44. Have you ever categorically stated you changed email addresses

4 months after you started a new job, for no apparent reason?

[6chars]

46. Not yet but the night is still young.

[merrily]

78. Did you ever start an email account because you became Secretary of State?

On your own server?

All email accounts are not nterchangeable or even comparable.

[Jesus Malverde]

8. I'm sure the FBI is

If you read the article she throws the IT admin AND her lawyer under the bus. Guess they went rogue on her.

[snooper2]

87. ROFLMAO you really want her to play the dumb card

Yeah Hillary, here is your new email...

I don't have a .gov address? Oh Hill, don't worry about that we got you covered. It's all the same anyway just make sure you have a couple cool photos wearing sunglasses with you on your smart phone

[Demeter]

3. Drip drip drip

[AngryAmish]

67. Well

[jalan48]

5. Aye yi yi. Well, SNL should be funny again.

[enid602]

9. hill

Finally. Proof positive that she's been selling state secrets and should be hung for treason. And kudos to those defenders of democracy who have been selflessly pursuing this witch hunt for the last 25 years. Thani God we've got the Bern to pick up the slack. He voted aganst the Iraq war, ya knoe.

[GeorgeGist]

23. I think you dropped this:

[Gloria]

39. You better mark this post as "sarcasm" because

there are many who really wouldn't understand that....

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

88. What a fucked up thing to say about Hillary!

There is no way TREASON is in this equation. Whatever they come up with, if anything, will be under the guise of ignorance, not criminality.

And I say that as a Bernie supporter. Of course, I've been wrong before....

[Lychee2]

90. "Selling state secrets"?

I don't think so. But she might have been trading State Department favors for donations to the Clinton Foundation and payments for Bill's speeches.

Check out this article by Bernie supporter David Sirota: "Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department":

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026733469

[Fred Sanders]

99. Amazing, isn't it? Sometimes I think maybe I logged onto the wrong site!

[Fred Sanders]

10. So Clinton is guilty of some faulty memory from years ago as to when she started using the

private email server?

Fucking yawn.

Again.

The only "drip, drip, drip" is from the faucets of the drippy media that always finds something that is nothing until the next finding of nothing.

The fact there is no evidence proves there must be evidence of something, RW logic if I ever seen any, means this dreary propaganda is as doomed as Bengazhi sooner or later.

Whenever a flag is hoosted atop a pole, take notice who salutes.

[Geronimoe]

13. No the question is

Why were the emails deleted and what other emails were deleted. Like the missing Nixon tapes.

[Fred Sanders]

18. ....sigh......

[Orrex]

20. Yeah! We should pre-emptively impeach her now, to beat the rush.

[karynnj]

27. Why not say that then?

Saying that she had responded to the best of her memory, but that it was a very busy time beginning a new job, considering who to hire for the top political positions, meeting with Obama and others to prepare for her hearings. This goes to why she fails to ever quickly end any of these questions.

In some ways, given that this was a time period - the first two months in office - that was not a period where there were likely any emails that would have been subject to any FOIA requests, this should be one of the easier questions to answer as openly and honestly as possible, with no attempt to push the responsibility on anyone else.

[saturnsring]

28. desparation from the bernistas

[roguevalley]

73. Years ago? How is it that sanders must explain forty years of stuff

to some people but someone using email seven years ago gets a pass? What bothers me is her lack of understanding how this would become such a shit storm. Amazing to me.

[Fred Sanders]

82. These non sequiturs are a habit with too many at DU.

[CanadaexPat]

81. She previously made a definitive statement

that she started using it in March (or her lawyer did). If she couldn't remember she shouldn't have been so definitive. It makes it look like she's lying when perhaps she is just mistaken. This is entirely self-inflicted.

[Fred Sanders]

83. That is how memory and forgetfulness work! The repetitive speculations are RW tripe..much is lately.

The shrill cries of the failed Get Hillary campaign are getting even shriller and sillier, are they not?

Quick, when did you begin using your current email service?

Come on....search that memory...be accurate to the day or you will be accused of lying....by your own logic.

And....what difference would it make if you were off a couple of months???

[applegrove]

11. That was way before .........

BENGHAZI!!!

[lobodons]

12. Hillary is running for President NOT Google IT tech

Let's ask her questions about her criteria for SCOTUS appointee's and Foreign Policy stances not computer IT bogus insignificant campaign distraction BS.

[Geronimoe]

16. She doesn't take questions

And she doesn't want more debates to answer questions.

[riversedge]

70. Are you serious. Have you looked at all the interviews she has done this

last few weeks. Where do you get off with that crap that she does not take questions!!!

[Fred Sanders]

84. The IT tech folks at DU forget this is a matter of law and government policy.....not tech!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

14. ...

[Ichigo Kurosaki]

37. That's a classic! [nt]

[tomm2thumbs]

47. that is total Hillary Clinton

sans the hat

[underpants]

15. Maybe, just maybe, she had more important things worry about

Like recovering the nation's position and her officec after the joke that Condi was

[7962]

31. Yeah, that worked really well. Yemen is a disaster & it was supposed to be the shining example.

Russia fears nothing. ME has fallen apart. China is taking over the Pacific with no resistance. The list goes on. I'm not blaming the President because the SOS leads in these things. And she failed. Sorry.
No, Its not like she was handed total peace and lost it, but she knew the state of the world when she took the job

[underpants]

45. Total peace?

[7962]

55. Try to follow the statement. I said she was NOT handed total peace.

And she knew it when she took the job

[Lychee2]

91. Don't forget Libya, which Hillary persuaded Obama to attack

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121879/hillary-clinton-should-take-blame-disastrous-libyan-intervention

[7962]

92. Thank you. I HAD forgotten!

[Android3.14]

17. That one is going to hurt

I see Bernie pulling ahead of Clinton in national polls within a few more weeks

She is her own worst enemy.

[Orrex]

19. It's outrageous that she doesn't remember the details of every email she ever sent or read.

[djean111]

38. Yes, of course it is outrageous. That is not the point.

The point is that this is baggage that GOP voters are going to lap up like hungry feral kitties.
This is baggage, and it does not matter what the content is.

[NanceGreggs]

56. Do you really think ...

... Democrats should choose their nominee based on what the GOP considers "baggage", or will "lap up"?

By and large, GOP voters are not going to be voting for the Democrat no matter who it is. So what they consider baggage is of no consequence.

In addition, if you think there is anyone the Democrats could nominate that wouldn't be found to be loaded with "baggage" by the Republicans, you must be extremely naive, or very new to politics.

If the Dems nominated Jesus Christ, the GOP would be all over his "communist ways", his association with thieves and prostitutes, the fact that he is a bachelor who hangs around with only male "disciples", and the fact that he's a bastard claiming that God is his father, instead of admitting that his mother was just another pregnant teenager who fabricated a story about conceiving of a "Holy Ghost".

The email story is now, and always has been, a non-starter. The truth is that most voters don't know how email servers work, how emails get deleted or "scrubbed", et cetera. And they are unlikely to spend hours on the internet trying to find information that explains any of it.

The GOP will always find "baggage" - and what doesn't exist will simply be fabricated, and spewed on FOX-News 24/7.

[djean111]

60. My choice for nominee is Bernie Sanders. Because of the issues.

However, I have read many OPs and posts saying we should all back Hillary because she is more electable due to money and being used to getting dinged due to baggage. It is never, really about the issues.

So no, of course I don't think that should be the reason Democrats should choose a nominee.

[NanceGreggs]

61. If your choice is Bernie ...

... based on the issues, that's fine.

However, I've seen too many BS supporters expressing their belief that he has no "baggage", nor anything in his past that can be exploited by the GOP.

The fact is that there are many things from Bernie's past that would be made much of by the Republicans. And the GOP voters would "lap it up like feral cats".

Ergo, bringing up HRC's "baggage" - real or perceived - is of no merit in the great scheme of things. I guarantee you that if BS were the nominee, the Republicans would have him so loaded down with "baggage" within minutes, he'd need a mile-long freight train to move it.

That seems to be a reality that most BS supporters don't want to acknowledge.

[djean111]

62. I don't think that Bernie's supporters are that naive about the negative stuff, at all.

We have seen him called a racist, we have seen a colleague who works on the same committee as him say he cannot remember his name and that he thinks Bernie does not like immigrants. And then there is the Super Pac thing from Brock attempting to link Bernie to a dictator when, really, Bernie was just arranging for poor people to get more affordable and, in some cases, free heating oil. We don't need to wait for the GOP to attack.

And I don't think many, if any at all, of Bernie's supporters are supporting him just because of Hillary's "baggage". The push-back comes when we are told she is more electable. As if the actual issues that cause us to support Bernie are nothing.

[roguevalley]

74. well, that's an opinion. one of zillions.

[NanceGreggs]

75. If you think it is merely an "opinion" ...

... that the GOP can - and will - dig up "baggage" on BS, you must be extremely naive.

[RufusTFirefly]

102. But isn't "baggage" the evil twin of "electability"?

Personally, I prefer to stick to the issues, which is why Bernie's an easy choice. He voted against the Iraq invasion, against the PATRIOT {sic} ACT, he isn't bankrolled by Wall Street employees, and he didn't have to hurriedly "evolve" on the question of same-sex marriage.

But it seems logically inconsistent to me for Hillary supporters, who frequently cite "electability" as one of their candidate's selling points, to argue that "baggage" shouldn't be relevant when Democrats are making their choice.

[NanceGreggs]

104. You're assuming BS has no "baggage".

He does.

And despite whatever "baggage" HRC has, real or imagined, she still has massive support among Dems, and is still the front-runner. So apparently she is more "electable" than Bernie, who is still a distant second nationally.

Should "baggage" be relevant to Democratic voters? I guess that depends on whether it's actual evidence of wrongdoing or conduct inconsistent with a voter's standards - or whether it's GOP propaganda being posted and promoted on what purports to be a Democratic site.

Let's not forget that BS has been given a pass thus far by the media and the GOP. And if and when he looks like he's close to becoming a viable contender, the gloves will be off and all kinds of things will be dug-up and splattered all over the MSM.

Given the numbers, BS is not looking very electable right now. And once the mud starts getting flung, it's not going to bode well for his chances.

[RufusTFirefly]

105. I'm sure you sleep better knowing that David Brock is working overtime. n/t

Doug: What's up, Josh? Hey, give me two packs of cigarettes today. Working overtime, sixteen hours. (Puts malt liquor bottle on the counter) And nature's nectar. Wake-up juice. And give me six of these beef jerkies. I'm hungry enough to chew the crotch out of a rag doll.

[Orrex]

57. Well, yeah. That was kind of my point.

If news broke that she ate dessert before finishing her green beans, we'd see 24/7 coverage for weeks on end, complete with Congressional inquiries and subpoenas by the gross.

It's ridiculous. And almost certainly irrelevant except to people endlessly looking for reasons to hate her.

[peacebird]

21. Sadly, her trustworthiness is so tarnished by her self inflicted wounds that things like the email

CAN hurt her. If she hadn't shot herself in the foot so often with easily refuted lies this might go away...

[Fred Sanders]

85. From the lips of Fox and NY Post to those at DU.....it is so obvious how silly it is getting.

[7962]

93. Naturally you're being told that you're parroting "Fox News" etc.

The old standby.

[LiberalArkie]

22. What generally happens when someone thinks they are smarter than everyone else?

[Scootaloo]

24. They get a job in middle management, usually n/t

[LiberalArkie]

29. Yes, they do.

[saturnsring]

25. because they were planted

[Scootaloo]

30. By Eric Holder I presume?

[leveymg]

33. She claimed she turned over all her work-related email. She repeatedly hasn't. She's lying or

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incompetent. If that doesn't disqualify her as Democratic Candidate, perhaps the prospect of indictment will. Either way, she is no longer acceptable to lead this party into the next election.

[humbled_opinion]

42. I can only say..

I hope her and her team rationalize that assessment and take the right actions to make her exit as painless as possible and throw their support to the right candidate... an untainted Democratic candidate would be a solid win against the idiots on the right....

[RBInMaine]

71. This comment is beyond ridiculous. A self described socialist will NEVER be president.

[cui bono]

77. You are right. The comment you made is beyond ridiculous.

You keep repeating the same false meme over and over again as if it will miraculously become true one day.

If you are talking about Bernie, he is not a self-described socialist. He is a self-described democratic socialist. Now that you are aware of this you can stop repeating false information. You're welcome and thank you.

[humbled_opinion]

94. You are a mess

I didn't name a candidate simply stated that Hillary Clinton's team should wake up and smell the coffee before she tries dragging the entire Democratic party into the gutter with her.

[HooptieWagon]

34. Maybe one of her focus groups can come up with an excuse.

[riversedge]

35. She did very well today-as Howard says--very Presidential ......

Correct The Record retweeted


Jennifer Granholm ‏@JenGranholm 6h6 hours ago

@HillaryClinton was presidential answering @chucktodd email qs on #MTP. Looking forward 2 qs on jobs/climate/inequality: time to move on!
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Correct The Record retweeted
Buffy Wicks ‏@BuffyWicks 6h6 hours ago

.@HillaryClinton responds to questions about emails on #MTP. Good answers, time to move on to substance please.
50 retweets 40 favorites
Correct The Record retweeted
Tim Ryan ‏@TimRyan 7h7 hours ago

Strong performance and smart answers from @HillaryClinton on #MTP. She didn't back down from the tough questions.
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Correct The Record retweeted



Neera Tanden ‏@neeratanden 7h7 hours ago

Just watched Hillary on MTP..good lesson on watching show directly v. twitter coverage.Lot of tough q's, lots straight answers.Not defensive
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Howard Dean ‏@GovHowardDean 8h8 hours ago

Fantastic job by @HillaryClinton on MTP. In the face of relentless focus on silly stuff she looked Presidential and composed. Keep it up!!!
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Correct The Record ‏@CorrectRecord 5h5 hours ago

Help build an America where our daughters know they can become anything they want to be #WomenforHillary

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[djean111]

41. Correct the Record is a Hillary Super PAC. So, what else would they say. n/t

[riversedge]

48. Yes it is and thanks for the bump

[djean111]

49. You are most welcome - have another bump! Good to air this stuff out! :-)

[humbled_opinion]

40. This is not going away....

Her inability to adequately explain the purpose and use of her own private server, a seriously flawed decision by the way, coupled with the fact that she said everything work related was turned over, and here we find it was not, compounded by an FBI investigation into improper handling of classified material, whether it was marked or not, how did it get on the unclassified side? Maybe not her but someone is guilty of a crime for taking that info from the classified networks and placing it on the unclassified networks in order to send it to her home email address, and again it impacts directly to her judgment, next will she say she never read those classified emails, had no knowledge that the information contained was classified, all around poor judgment, I mean what is next? Her trustworthiness is what is at issue here folks.... If she becomes the Democratic nominee the onslaught of accusation will ramp up from the rightwing media. She will look guilty and tainted. We cannot hope to win if Independents dismiss her because they do not trust her. I hope and believe enough Democratic voters will realize this and switch their support to a more viable candidate.... To be honest I hope she actually rationalizes all of this and does the right thing.....

[vadermike]

43. omfg

I hate to say this , but to avoid any more damage to the Party etc... she should just drop out now.. this is getting bad.. her and her team have to see whats coming and it aint pretty... the thing is.. all of this could have been avoided.. its too late.. shes done

[TwilightGardener]

50. Shit just happens, ya know?

Who knows how things work in this crazy world.

[JoePhilly]

51. Do we have a smoking gun email yet??

I keep waiting to hear about one.

[humbled_opinion]

52. Preponderance of the evidence...n/t

[JoePhilly]

53. So that's a no.

Let us know when the smoking gun email shows up.

[riversedge]

54. A big NO.

[Fred Sanders]

86. More likely than not is good enough for you to convict this accomplished woman of....what?

Good thing some folks never got into criminal law!
Truly it is the silly season...the silliness is florid.

[humbled_opinion]

95. I am not debating her accomplishments

I am talking specifically about her failures in leadership, common sense, and trustworthiness. I don't expect her supporters to agree but currently that is about one third of the entire electorate. When you get out of the denial phase and come to your senses you will see that she cannot possibly win the general election, so no matter how loudly you shout that she is an accomplished woman the taint of this scandal will resonate with the vast majority of voters. Simply put she cannot win.

[Fred Sanders]

96. Accomplishment is the opposite of failure. As for "cannot win", the enemy seems to disagree quite

a bit with that, if one would take notice of the last few years!

[humbled_opinion]

97. WHAT?

We are of course talking about her reckless decision to host an email server at her house, right? Is that an accomplishment somehow? Next we have the criminality of classified emails being found on her home server moving the information marked classified or not from the classified networks to the unclassified networks is a felony. I am not indicting her for that but someone on her prior team will be going to jail, but than there is of course her inability to discern that the information she was reading on her unclassified home email system was actually classified information, how can she justify that? So either she is ignorant or complicit or both either or it makes her a hard sell in the general election let me restate that last part general election, of course I love her, you love her everyone here loves her and if she get the nomination I will steadfastly support her, she just cannot possibly win the general.

[Fred Sanders]

98. Believe in the RW media propaganda, your choice. But try to spread it at DU and there will be

a response or two.

[wildbilln864]

100. "a response or two."

Yes sometimes people do whine when confronted. Truth hurts sometimes.

[karynnj]

59. You are missing the forest for the trees

The problem can be the PROCESSES CHOSEN. She opted to have her own server handle her unclassified email and then did not proactively archive it on an ongoing basis. When this really became a problem was BEFORE she left office - as soon as there were FOIA requests or Congressional requests that should have access to her work email. It became a worse problem when NO effort was made to transfer them when she left office.

THis makes Chuck Todd's question on whether this was to avoid her email being seen and causing her trouble was likely 100% on target - something rare for Todd. If that is true, it goes directly to transparency and allowing the oversight that the Congress is suppose to have.

Do you think she EVER intended to return the email to the State Department or make them public? What is ironic is that just as the secretive Nixon ended up having more of his stuff public - so did HRC.

[humbled_opinion]

63. Yes the fish rots from the head down...

Many people are still in the denial phase, which doesn't help... but be that as it may we will let the process continue to consume her, so far the taint is isolated to her only and doesn't seem to welcome a campaign against corruption of all Democratic politicians.... However, there will come a point when those that stand up for corruption will get some of that taint on them as well....

[PoliticAverse]

58. "Pressed to explain the discrepancy, Mrs. Clinton said it was beyond her technical understanding."nt

[humbled_opinion]

64. LOL, another "wipe it? you mean with a rag" moments n/t

[sadoldgirl]

65. Look, I am willing to believe

that she thought she did the right thing and
nothing illegal, but that is not the real issue
here.
She is secretive, denies things until it is impossible
to do so anymore, and finally she accuses others
of her problems or throws them under the bus.

This is what the repugs know and wait for, and that
makes her a problem for a dem GE win.

Yes, I am sure there is no politician without any
problems and something murky in his/her past.
Her problem is that she is the cause for her own
problems, and will admit to them only when
absolutely forced to. This is the reason that the
factor of trust eludes her.

[treestar]

66. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

all this will do is encourage people to use the phone again.

[Jesus Malverde]

68. cough cough neuland thought so too.

Then her fuck the eu comment went viral.

[24601]

76. Beause I hid them in the box that I had used to store the Rose law form billing records, but then

I forgot where I put the box until it magically showed up at the Pentagon. And instead of covering my butt, like I did for Bill every thine he got caught doing something, those military bastards actually followed the law and turned them over to the state department who, along with the pentagon, the press, the republicans and even the Pope have always had it out for Bill and me. effing fair because Bill got away with fraking thing and I'm not getting away with shit. I and always, always did a great job but Obama and his people have always been out to get me too.

Besides, Condi did the same thing except for all the email stuff. And Colon, too...and Madeline. It's just not effing fair and when I'm in power, just you wait and see if anyone ever gets anything from any server - and payback is going to be a real SOB. Just watch me if you think some reporters ain't gonna pay with their heads.

[TM99]

79. 1990's Deja Fucking Vu!

Now where did she put those Rose Law Firm folders? Oh, yes, that's right months later, they mysteriously showed up on a chair outside her residence!

[randome]

80. Goddamnit! If she didn't memorize every fucking pixel of every fucking email, I don't want her!

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]

[wildbilln864]

101. whether she does or not....

still don't want her!

[bowens43]

103. oh don't worry about it, she'll make up something to explain it......

the woman is a walking disaster. The repubs are salivating at the idea of a hillary nomination. They have been holding back and gathering ammunition for years