Trump Says He's Been 'Childish,' Raises Possibility of Dropping Out
Source: ABC News
With summer over, so might be the "Summer of Trump" -- and now the man himself appears to be accepting it might not be a kind Fall.
This is going to be an ebb and flow, how can I continue to lead by such wide margins?, Donald Trump told NBCs Today Show this morning.
The GOP front-runner's once dominate lead in the polls has been shifting. A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this week shows the real estate mogul now in a virtual tie with retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, polling at 21 percent to Carsons 20.
Im a practical person, Trump said. "If I see things arent going well, like for instance there are people right now in the Republican party who are not doing well I dont think its going to change for many of them, at some point you have to get out. Right now, Im leading every poll I get the biggest crowds by far. I had 20,000 in Dallas I had 35,000 people in Mobile, Alabama, you know so far its looking good
So I will go and if for some reason I think its not going to work, Ill go back to my business.
Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/chastened-trump-candidate-childish-raises-possibility-dropping/story?id=34124354
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)"spend more time with his family"
6chars
(3,967 posts)(The one who he said is so good looking that she weren't his daughter, he would be tempted. Ew.)
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)The idea of trump and anyone is hideous.
No Vested Interest
(5,165 posts)Ivanka? Does he have only one daughter?
I know there are several sons, by several wives.
6chars
(3,967 posts)It makes sense he would be attracted to her. She is a mix of Ivana whom he found attractive a couple of wives ago and himself who he still finds attractive.
No Vested Interest
(5,165 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)Unless he drops precipitously, I don't see why he doesn't at least stay in until 5 or more of the no-hopers drop out, to see where their voters go.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)I've been through a lot of elections, and, at this point (where no one has even a strong plurality), you don't care as much about your positive numbers, so much as your negative and "second choice" numbers.
He's pretty much peaked in terms of positive and second choice, and his negatives are huge.
Looking deeper into the polling numbers, there are a few viable (internally within the Republican Primary) candidates:
Carson
Cruz
Bush
Rubio
Carson doesn't have the organization or the money. Rubio doesn't have the money.
Cruz is the favorite, by far, of the wingnut base, and has both money and organization.
Bush has the elite vote and the money and the family organization, but is hated by the wingnut base.
It will come down to Cruz vs. Bush. It's very similar to Reagan vs. Bush, actually, in dynamics, except Cruz would make Rubio his VP and Bush would make some token (yes, token, that's how it works) female his VP.
This is from 60+ years of working on campaigns. I will bet anyone 1,000,000 internet points.
Springslips
(533 posts)But I think you are wrong. Without seeing those # ( I am assuming you are privvy to private polls) and going with gut, I think Cruz numbers will drop--he has very little charisma. I think the wingnut canidate will rotate as it did in 2012. I also think the elites will drop Bush soon and go with Kasich; The Bush brand is as bad as it can be and his numbers are dropping already. The elites have to be nervous of these two things.
So I'll take your bet: it won't be Cruz versus Bush.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)I think he entered this race with same level of committment as he had in the other presidential races he entered. I doubt in his wildest dreams did he think he would experience "The Summer of Trump."
He is looking for a way out. He doesn't want to be president. He knows he doesn't have what it takes. These comments are the planting of the seeds for an exit.
elleng
(130,825 posts)Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)I agree Trump was as surprised as anyone when he took off but ut was just a flash in the pan. Then what are the crazyheads going to do, who are they going to put their FAITH in after Trump leaves??
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)He doesn't really want to be president. It was just fun for a while.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Just look at Romney or Jeb. No fire, no vision. They are running for President because they want it as a collector's item.
I guess, it also factors that Trump realized that Congress and Supreme Court won't automatically dance to his tune. What's the point of being the boss if you can't boss others around?
"And to make it worse: My word is not good enough for those fuckers! They demand real numbers and plans!!! And we will concentrate those 11 million people in camps in a humane way!!!!! And don't you dare to doubt me that I will pull the greatest all-nighter of all times and be ready just in time for my first day in office!!!!!!!"
daleanime
(17,796 posts)wordpix
(18,652 posts)He didn't have to see one person he did not want to see.
Politics is a different ball game, huh, Trump?
Runningdawg
(4,514 posts)who told me Trump would be GREAT at getting things done. People LOVE him, otherwise he wouldn't be able to close all the deals he has over the decades. I told her HE didn't close the deals - he knows people, who knows people, really good people, who can do that - so he doesn't have to. She just laughed. Lets see if she is laughing a year from now.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)The Apprentice shows et al have dumped Trump.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)on to the next promotional opportunity. Personally, I think he just wanted to let everyone know that he's "worth $10 billion dollars", and a presidential election document lends a degree of legitimacy to the claim, even though the $10B figure is widely disputed. He's a tool.
louis-t
(23,284 posts)but he over states the value of his "brand".
CincyDem
(6,346 posts)...with all the media focus on Trump and his wild-assed approaches, he has obscured coverage of all the other conversations going on between the likely candidates and their base. The nominee won't have an primary positions to defend because nobody outside their base will know about them.
Trump has always been an exercise in privatizing the primaries - pushing them into the back room and out of the limelight.
His business will be rewarded for his performance...just like any actor would be paid at the end of the show's run.
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)Pardon my donning of a tin foil hat, but I have suspected Trump is always looking for a money-making scheme, and the neocons have deep pockets. You can cry about the Teatards all you want, but the money men connected with the BFEE still run the show.
Donald the Clown runs decoy while back room deals are made to boost Jebby.
My prediction:
It will be a Jeb/Carson ticket.
Stay tuned, because I am usually better than 80 percent on these predictions.
WestSeattle2
(1,730 posts)moonscape
(4,673 posts)sofa king
(10,857 posts)That's the wonderful justice of Narcissistic Personality Disorder. As long as the subject believes his own bullshit about himself, he has little to no empathy for others, is limited only by what he thinks he can get away with, and can behave as ruthlessly as a sociopath.
But inevitably, the Narcissist has brutally self-aware moments where he realizes that he is a fraud, that everything he has done has left a trail of disaster behind him, and the walls close in, and that's when he spends half a month "vacationing" at Camp David while his sycophants fluff him back up, if you're W Bush.
That's why W still can't look himself in the face except through a shitty painting of his eyes in a mirror in the shower, and now that he's universally acknowledged as one of the worst leaders ever, the furies will never cease tearing at his soul, for the rest of his miserable life.
Trump won't remain realistic and depressed for long before he realizes that if he can only just believe his own crap, there is no limit to the damage he can cause, and he will be off to the races again.
Edit: The theory permits predictions, so I'll make one: Something is coming out that's gonna hurt him fairly bad, and he will retreat into his tent like a spurned Alexander the Great for seven to ten days. Then, he's gonna blow up in the exact same way he did before, renounce everything he said between now and the first week of October, and try to claw his way back into it by being even more of a douche.
Second edit: The important thing to know about NPD is that once the narcissist reaches a level of publicity and adulation where The Don is right now, he will inevitably demand MORE of it. There's no plan here; this is just a predictable cycle of the personality disorder.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/basics/definition/con-20025568
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder
Skittles
(153,138 posts)what I cannot understand is how these glaring narcissists so easily fool so many people - are they truly that stupid, naive or WHAT?
sofa king
(10,857 posts)When they believe their own bullshit they really believe it, and they need others to believe it too, so they're very convincing to people who work by judgment and belief rather than factual analysis.
In other words, narcissists are very appealing to other people who can't think, because they do such a good job of pretending that they have it all figured out.
The amount of people attending his events are a lie. Only about 4K to 5K attended each event in Dallas and Alabama.
MissKat
(218 posts)He reminds me of my five year old grandson who just can't stand it when he's so very, very tired that he needs a nap and he starts spinning stories to fight off any attempt to get him to lay down. Donald is a man/boy who wants to be King of Candy Land where everyone loves him and he's always right. I think Donald is getting bored. It was bound to happen. He is so immature...and yet, there are people who think he's just what this country needs. (Shudder.)
renate
(13,776 posts)So I'll just say "You should post more often, because that was funny."
annabanana
(52,791 posts)He is a small boy who has never been told "no". You nailed it.
still_one
(92,110 posts)niyad
(113,213 posts)and disgusting almost beyond words. children are not megalomaniacs, they are generally not narcissists, and they are generally not woman-hating jerks. so, quit insulting the children, you worthless pos, and retire to the obscurity you so richly merit.
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)SOME children, MANY children, are not megalomaniacs. They are generally not narcissists.
Others most definitely ARE megalomaniacs. And their parents support and encourage it.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)it has all been a scam from Day 1.
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)What he probably wants from this statement is for people to beg him to stay in and save the world
hibbing
(10,095 posts)The equally as stupid son is biding his time and waiting for his chance. He already is upping the racism with the "free stuff" garbage, he pandered to the oil industry the other day, now he needs to add a pinch of religious bigotry and he will slowly climb in the polls. Just my two cents.
Peace
daleanime
(17,796 posts)if he doesn't make a move soon he won't have any left.
Botany
(70,479 posts)GusBob
(7,286 posts)his wife running covering her ears from the profanity
patsimp
(915 posts)What a wimp.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Gothmog
(145,046 posts)Trump will bail when he slips too much in the polls. Trump's ego will not allow him to be a loser
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)it will be time to quit spending money pointlessly.
At what point can Trump make back all he has spent and then some?
And at what point does he cross the profitability line and lose money?
dembotoz
(16,796 posts)it is a soap opera and he is a reality tv star.....
i expect more drama...scripted bullshit
DaveT
(687 posts)First, I have been amused by how many left of center folks have their hair on fire about the possibility of Donald Trump becoming president. I'm not saying it is inconceivable, but I've seen no real reason to lose one's cookies. Had his star kept rising into the autumn, it would have been time to scratch one's chin. But as of now, as Trump's polling numbers are coming back down to earth, the original dismissal of him as a more talented version of Herman Cain seems apt.
Second, I can see the business opportunity for him -- The Trump Network, an ultra red-meat news channel that tells the True story that the wimps at Fox News are afraid to tell. Of course the schedule would be filled out with several versions of The Apprentice. And The Donald would have to host a late night talk show to go up against whoever took the places of Leno and Letterman. Don't forget the afternoon -- I am not being sarcastic when I say I would get off to seeing Donald Trump hosting The Family Feud.
Yeah, the Trump Network -- All The Donald, All The Time.
Satire or Reality? You know you are at an historic turning point when they merge.
Oneironaut
(5,490 posts)Unfortunately, Donald Trump isn't going anywhere. He said that he would drop out if he wasn't doing well.
Wash. state Desk Jet
(3,426 posts)So, I will go and if for some reason I think it's not going to work,I'll go back to my business. I'm a practical person !
Now folks in practical realization I can tell you straight up what it all comes down to. It is very simple really ,all you have to do is think about it. It all comes down to money. Great money actually.
I never expected to step out in the open air then take one great diffident swing for the hole in one. I believe all the clowns call that a slam dunk.Those beggars are begging in high gear now and that translates to wheeling and dealing ,essentially,selling out. And that is all about the return on the investment.
As you know, without those wheels ,there can be no deals.
That is the stop short of my candidacy. And there it is all about my money.Back behind it all is the business of my business with a very limited share profit. Over and above it all,that's what it comes down to. It comes down to limitations.
I know you can lie like a rug, you can lie like a dirty dog ,you can lie in wait but you cannot make those lies become truth. And at the same time it becomes impossible to tell the truth about those lies the same as it is impossible to live those lies.
And as you know those lies grow teeth and come back to bite !
And from that there is no running ! Yes and another one bites the bummer ! Ouch !
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,987 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Maybe sooner. He's getting bored of it. Utility may have been maximized.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)Before he ran for pres, he did not see anyone unless he agreed to see that person.
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Or maybe he got bored. Or perhaps he didn't want to actually be challenged. Or maybe someone from the Republican party has threatened him and he's listening.
Either way, good riddance, better sooner than later.
spooky3
(34,425 posts)I thought maybe someone coached him not to provoke Colbert. But now I wonder if he's just physically exhausted and that it isn't fun for him anymore.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,160 posts)Scott Pelley was polite, but firm. If Trump tried to wiggle away from a question (most of the questions would start with "how" Scott would come right back at him.
BTW, the interview is online now for those who missed it.
spooky3
(34,425 posts)It's a new experience for him to have to do the difficult work himself.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,160 posts)MisterP
(23,730 posts)AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Snap the Turtle
(73 posts)FEC deadline...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Trump better start to play hardball with Bushson and the others or he may as well become another Republican Quitter. Go back to his cupcake baking TV show.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Time to strike the tent, shut down the circus and call it a day?
demwing
(16,916 posts)Contestants are all out of work actors. Trump can have them compete in negotiations with China over a trade deal, and for the losers, he can deliver the trademark line "You're impeached!"
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Thats where Chump belongs..as far away from the Whitehouse as possible!
wildbilln864
(13,382 posts)Nooooo! It's too soon! Wait 9 months or so then drop out. Damn!
librechik
(30,674 posts)he doesn't have the nads to really do anything once the criticism starts flying. He'll throw a tantrum and drop out at some point. Mark this date that we predicted it!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)People are starting to boo, or even worse to question him on specifics. Yep. Baby is getting bored with his toy.
Myrina
(12,296 posts).... makes one wonder what's going on in the Dirty Deals Department of the GOP.
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)Trump is in it for the long haul. He is just catching his second wind. All the way to the convention with a number of delegates in his pocket ready to "deal or no deal."