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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:16 PM Sep 2015

Parole Board Green-Lights Execution of Kelly Gissendaner Despite Pope's Plea

Source: NBC News

by Tracy Connor, Dan Shepherd and Gabe Gutierrez
Sep 29 2015, 3:11 pm ET

Georgia's parole board declined Tuesday to commute the death sentence of Kelly Renee Gissendaner — even after Pope Francis called for a halt to her execution.

Gissendaner, a mother of three who was sentenced to death for the 1997 murder of her husband at the hands of her lover, is set to receive a lethal injection at 7 p.m. ET.

"This decision will not bring healing," said Cathy Zappa, an Episcopal priest and friend of Gissendaner.

Pope Francis, who called for a ban on the death penalty during his visit to the United States last week, asked the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles to spare her life, through a letter written by a local archbishop.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/lethal-injection/pope-urges-halt-execution-georgia-woman-kelly-gissendaner-n435566

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KansDem

(28,498 posts)
2. I don't understand this...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:22 PM
Sep 2015
Gissendaner's application for clemency focuses on the fact that she received a harsher sentence than Greg Owen, the boyfriend who actually carried out the killing and is serving life without parole.


Why did her boyfriend and killer get life without parole and she gets the death penalty?
 

Sake2Me

(10 posts)
4. I think it was in return for his testimony that convicted her
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:26 PM
Sep 2015

Which would make some kind of convoluted sense I suppose.

REP

(21,691 posts)
5. Because she was the instigator of the murder, much like someone who hires a hit man
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:28 PM
Sep 2015

Even though she didn't pay Owen, she's the one who came up with the plan to kill her husband. Usually, the person who plans the murder gets the harsher sentence. Owen agreed to testify against her as well.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
7. No excuses
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 06:24 PM
Sep 2015

Those who harbor support for the death penalty will strive mightily to present some defense for this barbarous act, but there is none. The fact is that, while it may salve our liberal sensibilities to believe that the criminal justice system would place greater responsibility on the person with the wherewithal to induce others to do their dirty work, it is almost always the trigger man who gets death. The victim's children begged for her life. The Pope begged for her life. Spouse murderers often get life. Kelly, however will die because the death penalty is both arbitrary and evil, because killing a female fends off accusations of gender bias, and because Georgia is a state beyond hope.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
8. While she shouldn't be executed, she should get no less than LWOP.
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:03 PM
Sep 2015

In most cases I've read about (even where the mastermind is a male), the mastermind receives a heavier sentence in large part because the killer often cooperates with the state in exchange for leniency.

California hasn't been able to prove Charles Manson physically killed any of the Cielo Drive/La Bianca victims yet he still sits in prison for their deaths.

Why? Because he was convicted of ordering their murders. This woman was convicted of ordering her husband's death.


Wish those who grouse about treating those that solicit murder as harshly or harsher than the actual killer would think on that for awhile.







rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
11. Because he copped a plea and ratted her out?
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 08:36 PM
Sep 2015
WTOC.com:
At trial, prosecutors successfully showed that she recruited her then boyfriend Gregory Owen to kill her husband. Owen testified against Kelly Gissendaner as part of a plea deal that allowed him to avoid the death penalty.

Hooray for me...


rocktivity

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
17. She pressured him to do it - he wanted her to just get a divorce.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:28 AM
Sep 2015

In essence, he was the weapon she used to kill her husband, and the father of at least one of her children, probably because she wanted the house, and I believe he may have had insurance that would cover it if he died.

And she apparently used Owen's love and desire for her to accomplish this.

I have no opinion about whether she should have been executed or not - I'm merely pointing out that she was the more culpable of the two. She did have a rotten childhood, so I think there are some mitigating factors to be argued for her.

There's a lot to be said for divorce courts!

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
3. this really bothers me
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 03:25 PM
Sep 2015

not only because i oppose dp, but because of the apparent sexism imo. how many men have attempted, and in some cases succeeded, in killing their wives/partners who don't even get life or Lwp? and this woman, who conspired but did not actually kill, is getting death? even the guy she conspired with, who actually killed with his own hands, he is LWP. what the hell?


question everything

(47,474 posts)
9. Same here
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 07:49 PM
Sep 2015

My spouse reply was: that's the South for you..

I don't know why the governor cannot issue last minute clemency.

24601

(3,959 posts)
14. I don't judge that the facts support your hypothesis. In fact, DP gender bias is far more likely to
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 02:03 AM
Sep 2015

result in males being sentenced to death. A woman being executed is a bigger news story because it's "man bites dog" rather than the norm that it's relatively rare to sentence a woman to death. This was Georgia's first execution of a women in 70 years.

You can find studies on this subject online fairly easily. Here's a sample with the URL up front:

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1767508

Chivalry is Not Dead: Murder, Gender, and the Death Penalty


Steven F. Shatz
University of San Francisco - School of Law


Naomi R. Shatz
Zalkind Duncan and Bernstein LLP

February 19, 2011

Univ. of San Francisco Law Research Paper No. 2011-08
Berkeley Journal of Gender, Law & Justice, Vol. 27, No. 1, 2012

"Chivalry - that set of values and code of conduct for the medieval knightly class - has long influenced American law, from Supreme Court decisions to substantive criminal law doctrines and the administration of criminal justice. The chivalrous knight was enjoined to seek honor and defend it through violence and, in a society which enforced strict gender roles, to show gallantry toward "ladies" of the same class, except for the women of the knight's own household, over whom he exercised complete authority. This article explores, for the first time, whether these chivalric values might explain sentencing outcomes in capital cases. The data for the article comes from our original study of 1299 first degree murder cases in California, whose death penalty scheme accords prosecutors and juries virtually unlimited discretion in making the death-selection decision. We examine sentencing outcomes for three particular types of murder where a "chivalry effect" might be expected - gang murders, rape murders and domestic violence murders. In cases involving single victims, the results were striking. In gang murders, the death sentence rate was less than one-tenth the overall death sentence rate. By contrast, in rape murder cases, the death sentence rate was nine times the overall death sentence rate. The death sentence rate for single-victim domestic violence murders was roughly 25% lower than the overall death sentence rate. We also examined, through this study and earlier California studies, more general data on gender disparities in death sentencing and found substantial gender-of-defendant and gender-of-victim disparities. Women guilty of capital murder are far less likely than men to be sentenced to death, and defendants who kill women are far more likely to be sentenced to death than defendants who kill men. We argue that all of these findings are consistent with chivalric norms, and we conclude that, in the prosecutors' decisions to seek death and juries' decisions to impose it, chivalry appears to be alive and well."

Democat

(11,617 posts)
15. Sexism? How many men are put to death vs women?
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 07:03 AM
Sep 2015

If there is sexism, it probably goes opposite the way that you think.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
16. it occurred to me
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:00 AM
Sep 2015

in this particular case, since she got a harsher sentence than the man that actually did the crime. I wasn't making a blanket statement about the death penalty in general, although since more men commitment violent crime, it makes sense to think that more men are sentenced to death.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
18. She's the one who thought it up and orchestrated it.
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 08:31 AM
Sep 2015

In this case, she was the more guilty.

If anything, sex bias runs the other way for the DP.

You can read about the case here, and before making allegations of sexism you probably should:
http://crime.about.com/od/womenondeathrow/fl/Profile-of-Kelly-Gissendaner-and-the-Murder-of-Her-Husband.htm

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
19. i understand it was her idea
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 09:01 AM
Sep 2015

thanks for the link, but i don't plan to read the details of the crime.i don't believe for a minute that gissendaner was a paragon of virtue and goodness

i just hate the dp

NonMetro

(631 posts)
12. If they didn't have the death penalty...
Tue Sep 29, 2015, 09:23 PM
Sep 2015

This would have been all over n the late 90's, she would have been locked up, and nobody would ever have heard of her again. Now, the state of Georgia will murder this 47 woman for a murder she committed 18 years ago when she was 29. What's the point? All it's going to do is cause more harm to her grown children. That's not justice. I call it just another murder.

Eugene

(61,874 posts)
13. Georgia executes Kelly Gissendaner after Supreme Court denies stay requests
Wed Sep 30, 2015, 01:00 AM
Sep 2015

Source: Washington Post

Georgia executes Kelly Gissendaner after Supreme Court denies stay requests

By Mark Berman September 30 at 12:39 AM

The only woman on Georgia’s death row was executed by lethal injection early Wednesday morning following a series of legal challenges that delayed her execution by several hours.

Kelly Gissendaner, who was convicted of convincing her boyfriend to murder her husband, was the first woman executed in Georgia since World War II. Her execution was announced by corrections officials shortly before 12:30 a.m. local time.

Georgia had intended to execute Gissendaner earlier this year, but its two planned attempts were scrapped — one due to bad weather, the other after the execution drugs looked “cloudy” — and her execution was postponed until the fall.

On Tuesday afternoon, despite an appeal from Pope Francis, the Georgia Board of Pardons and Paroles denied without explanation Gissendaner’s request for them to reconsider her case.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/09/29/georgia-considering-whether-the-state-will-execute-kelly-gissendaner-the-only-woman-on-its-death-row-as-pope-francis-asks-for-mercy/
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