Caitlyn Jenner Won't Face Charges in Fatal Crash

[uhnope]

Source: ABC

Caitlyn Jenner will not face criminal charges in the February crash that resulted in the death of another driver.

The Los Angeles County District Attorney said today that Jenner was driving below the speed limit and that the "suspect engaged brakes" before impact. "Crime requires violation of misdemeanor or infraction," said the DA in a statement, adding "based on facts, cannot prove beyond a reasonable doubt that suspect's conduct was unreasonable."

Jenner had been facing vehicular manslaughter charges.

Blair Berk, Jenner's attorney, said of the news, "We believed from the start that a thorough and objective investigation would clear Caitlyn of any criminal wrongdoing. We are heartened the District Attorney has agreed that even a misdemeanor charge would be inappropriate. A traffic accident, however devastating and heartbreaking when a life is lost, is not necessarily a criminal matter."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/caitlyn-jenner-face-charges-fatal-crash/story?id=34156839

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Is skating part of the Decathalon?

[ram2008]

1. I can't wait for the day I don't need to hear any news about this attention starved Republican again

Can Bruce just go away along with the rest of the Kardashian ilk? That would be great.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

13. She's not asking for your attention.

Don't open these threads if you're that trans-phobic.

[ram2008]

20. I'm not trans-phobic

Caitlyn is another privileged rich girl who can get away with skirting the law. She's been hogging up the limelight with her terrible reality TV show and doing everything she can to grab attention, all while ridiculing the type of people and politics that has allowed her to be who she is today. It has nothing to do with her being trans and everything to do with her being part of the Kardashian clan who does anything to get their name on a headline.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

31. She got in the accident for headlines?

It doesn't seem to me that anyone got special treatment.

[crim son]

33. I despise her as well and am nothing like trans-phobic.

I question the logic of assuming that just because she is trans, she is therefore a good and decent person. I think she's a very stupid human being, frankly, and wish there was a better role model available for our transgender youth.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

34. I guess I don't see that.

[trillion]

24. Seriously, she's a republican? Woah! I was supporting her because shes a transgendered woman who has

to stand up to haters. I had no idea she's based in hate herself. In that case, awesome thing to do to the republican party. rofl.

[Marty McGraw]

2. would you just look

at all that armpit hair....

[Marty McGraw]

3. in all do respect

I'm glad a thorough investigation was conducted and the results concluded positively for Caitlyn

[elleng]

6. ditto

[wordpix]

41. due respect, that is

[GeorgeGist]

4. IOKIYAW

[smiley]

5. and rich

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

14. Nobody would have been charged base of the evidence.

"Jenner was driving below the speed limit and that the "suspect engaged brakes" before impact"

[Quackers]

23. Seems like there should still be a charge of following to close. nt

[trillion]

25. Have you ever nearly hit a stopped car in front of you at a light? Perhaps you were talking with a

friend and realized you should pay attention? I've never hit a car in front of me in my life, but I've came close a few times. I get how this could well be an innocent very unfortunate accident.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

32. I've pulled over to the shoulder rather than rear-end a car.

[Quackers]

39. Of course it would be an accident.

But you would still be guilty because you caused the accident. In my state, it could be following to close, assured clear distance, distracted driving, failure to control, any of these could apply based upon what caused the accident. If you were talking to a friend and hit another vehicle, you would be held responsible because you are the licensed operator of that vehicle and it was your actions that caused the other vehicle to be damaged.

[wordpix]

42. but she had to be going fast enough to kill someone

Was there a reason to rear end someone at fast speed? Usually there's a fender bender rear ender, not a death.

[Kingofalldems]

7. They knew she had a powerful team of lawyers

This is one of the ways the rich can skate--they have more resources than any prosecutor.

[rocktivity]

9. Yup -- prosecutorial cowardice

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They got a big enough dose of Jenner's resources during the OJ murder trial -- and this time around, the role of racism would have been played by gender-phobia.

You can speed without exceeding the speed limit if you're going faster than you should be given the flow of traffic. And is it true that it all happened at a stoplight?


rocktivity

[Kelvin Mace]

8. Nice to be rich

If you can't be a cop when you kill people, be rich.

[FlaGranny]

10. Sometimes I am shocked

but not by finding her innocent. This has nothing to do with Jenner. When I was a young woman, many years ago, I had never heard of anyone being prosecuted for an accident. Manslaughter and homicide charges were extremely rare and mostly reserved for something intentional. I still can't wrap my mind around sending a young teen driver to jail for getting into an accident, even where someone is killed. I guess I grew up in a different time. I just keep thinking how many of us would have had criminal records for doing what kids will do, but were lucky enough to have survived the teen years without getting into an accident or getting caught. I really still don't know how I feel about this. Most kids who get into accidents are good kids with a good future and I can't quite see how destroying their lives with a criminal record helps a grieving family - it kind of seems like "revenge" to me.

Don't yell at me now - just trying to wrap my mind around this. I guess I feel that kids should receive some kind of punishment that doesn't require a "record."

[Lychee2]

12. Interesting post.

+1.

[TexasBushwhacker]

17. I think MADD had a lot to do with

It's one thing to drink and drive (or text and drive) and hurt YOURSELF and your own property. It's another thing to do those things and hurt someone else. Before Mothers Against Drunk Drivers became active, drunk driving charges usually resulted in fines and maybe a bit of jail time, and there were people with multiple drunk driving convictions who were out causing accidents and hurting people. So the laws got tougher.

[FlaGranny]

22. I understand the drunk driving laws

needed to be toughened. My problem comes with kids. Recently in this area (actually more than once), a carload of kids got into an accident where someone was killed. The driver gets sent to prison, They were a carload of kids having a good time. Most kids have been in the same situation at one time or another and by dumb luck they survive their teen years intact.

This is somewhat off topic for the thread, but i just don't think a 16 or 18 year old, an otherwise good kid, should get a record. There should certainly be severe consequences but not a prison record.

[trillion]

26. I totally agree with you.

[FlaGranny]

40. Happy I'm not alone. n/t

[Javaman]

11. so she wasn't texting while driving? I thought that was the issue.

I guess not.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

15. No evidence of that. Evidence would be required.

[TexasBushwhacker]

16. Nope, not texting or speeding

Jenner wasn't ticketed at the scene either. Yes, she was at fault. You're always at fault if you rear end someone, but that doesn't mean you're criminally negligent. My guess is that Jenner wasn't allowing enough stopping distance for her vehicle since it was pulling a trailer. More weight = more momentum.

[Javaman]

18. good to know. thanks. nt

[TexasBushwhacker]

19. No alcohol either

Jenner passed a field sobriety test and a blood test.

I haven't found any confirmation of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was found that the woman that died wasn't wearing her seat belt. Airbags are meant to work in addition to seat belts, not instead of.

I find it interesting that her adult step children are suing for wrongful death. Jenner will probably settle out of court, but I don't really think they have a case.

[trillion]

27. Depending on her height the air bag may have had to be disconnected as it legally should be for

women under 5'3. My brother disconnected mine because the warning that it should be since I'm short. It pisses me off that I can't have an airbag because of my height. Many many women are under 5'3. The air bag is very likely to kill them hence the required disconnecting. If I get in an accident the person who hits my car will likely get an airbag deployed to save their life and I don't get the option. Even my nieces have their air bags disconnected because of this. We're all white women, not even asian. Millions of women don't get airbags, and if they do have them, are taking a big chance on death by them. All people over 6'3 are also more likely to be injured by an air bag than be saved. Looks like newer cars deactivate the airbag if they sense someone under 100 pounds too.

[ShrimpPoboy]

35. How do they not have a case?

You said yourself he was at fault. Civil liability is much easier to find than criminal and rear-ending someone usually results in a presumption of negligence, meaning he would have to prove he wasn't wrong rather than the plaintiff proving he was. Seems like a slam dunk to me.

And here at least you can't even mention a victims failure to wear a seatbelt as a mitigating factor on damages. The thinking is that you take a victim as you find them. Maybe seat belts would have reduced the damages but for certain there would be none had the defendant not acted negligently. Not sure how it works in other states.

[TexasBushwhacker]

36. They are adult step children

She was a 69 year old widow. They were not financially dependent on her

[ShrimpPoboy]

38. I didn't catch the step children part

They may not even have a right of action in that case. State law differs. But if they did they would have a solid wrongful death case. Not worth millions but it's an easy liability verdict.

[Democat]

21. If Rush Limbaugh was in the same accident I wonder if DU would be as supportive

Or if we'd be hearing about how rich people get away with murder.

[MADem]

28. Why is this show biz thread in LBN? And what's with the pic of Jenner before she

underwent her procedures? I'm not getting a good feeling about this post at all. It just seems like it's nudging too close to a line, plausible deniability notwithstanding.

I think her fame probably got her a more favorable outcome than the average person might have gotten. I think she should just go home, live quietly on her millions, enjoy her life, and stop trying to infect the world with her privileged, biased, right wing views. I think she's an awful person.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/08/caitlyn-jenner-is-still-lukewarm-on-gay-marriage-that-says-a-lot/

In an interview with Ellen DeGeneres that airs Tuesday, Caitlyn Jenner appears to have trouble reconciling her conservative ideology with supporting same-sex marriage.

[trillion]

29. Out of curosity, is that whole family right wing? I've never seen 1 expisode of the Kardashians or

Ms Jenners show so I didn't realize until this thread that she was a rw nutcase.

To be honest, if she wasn't a transgendered woman and simply a woman, I would still say she should have an issue reconciling being a republican. Same with the black surgeon... and the Spanish guy who killed Trayvon.

[MADem]

30. No--I think Kim Kardashian supports Clinton. Kanye wants to run for President, so I guess he's

a member of the Kanye Party! I don't think they'll ever be mistaken for rocket scientists--they do know how to make a buck, though. It's freaky what people will buy if a "celebrity" (not an actor or a musician or someone with talent, just a 'celebrity') touts it.

I have never seen that show either--I've seen the odd clips, but nothing more than thirty seconds at a time. It just doesn't resonate--I can't fathom sitting through a half hour or hour of that stuff. Too old, too farty. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

I don't understand how women can be Republicans, no matter how they arrive at their womanhood.

It's like JC Watts daddy said, the chickens voting for the colonel!!

[Arkana]

37. It is sad, to me, that even after getting the chance

to be on the outside what she felt on the inside, that Caitlyn Jenner is still a FYGM asshole.