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Omaha Steve

(99,499 posts)
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:09 PM Oct 2015

Firefighters’ Union Backs Away From Endorsement of Hillary Clinton

Source: NY Times

By NOAM SCHEIBER and AMY CHOZICK

The International Association of Fire Fighters, one of the country’s more politically powerful unions, has abandoned its initial plans to endorse Hillary Rodham Clinton for president, according to union sources.

Harold A. Schaitberger, the union’s general president, informed Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, Robby Mook, in a telephone call on Monday. According to a union official, Mr. Schaitberger told Mr. Mook that the executive board and rank-and-file members — the latter were recently polled — did not support a Clinton endorsement.

The early support of a cross section of unions — most prominently the American Federation of Teachers, which endorsed Mrs. Clinton in July — had been a source of strength for the Clinton campaign. But in recent weeks, as Mrs. Clinton’s numbers in some polls have sagged and she has faced an increasingly formidable challenge from Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, some labor unions appear to have had second thoughts.

The impetus for Mr. Schaitberger’s call to Mr. Mook were conversations about the endorsement at the board’s meetings in mid-September, when board members expressed interest in the possibility that Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. would join the Democratic field.

FULL story at link.


Democratic candidate Senator Hillary Clinton thanked a group of local firefighters after a campaign rally at the Merrillville Fire Department Station No. 2 in Merrillville, IN on May 5, 2008. Credit Damon Winter/The New York Times

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/us/politics/firefighters-union-backs-away-from-endorsement-of-hillary-clinton.html?_r=0

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Firefighters’ Union Backs Away From Endorsement of Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP
So there not supporting BS either.... Historic NY Oct 2015 #1
Fire Departments Receive Millions ........... mitty14u2 Oct 2015 #2
And it will switch to the rightful candidate for Labor Left Ear Oct 2015 #3
Sorry Hillary Clinton has been at the fore front of the first responders.... Historic NY Oct 2015 #4
Did you read the OP? They're holding out for Biden, not Bernie. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #5
And in addition to tending conservative... mak3cats Oct 2015 #6
Any Diminution Of The HRC Campaign Is A Step In A Good Direction - No More DLC Third Way Politics cantbeserious Oct 2015 #7
+100 SoapBox Oct 2015 #9
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba Oct 2015 #13
do you think blackapron Oct 2015 #8
If we can't have Bernie, zentrum Oct 2015 #10
It feels a little strange to click on a DU link to a NYT article and see kas125 Oct 2015 #11
I believe Sherman A1 Oct 2015 #12
NEWSFLASH! Most "union members" are right wing pasto76 Oct 2015 #14

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
1. So there not supporting BS either....
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:22 PM
Oct 2015

shame since Hillary has been pushing the lame asses in DC to pass an extension to the First Responders Bill...

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
2. Fire Departments Receive Millions ...........
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:38 PM
Oct 2015


Valley fire departments receive more $1 million in federal ...

Superior Fire Department Plans Multi Million Dollar Upgrade

Philadelphia Fire Department To Receive Over $22 Million

Warrior Fire Department receives federal grant worth nearly ...

Killeen: Fire Department Awarded $4.4 Million Grant

Worcester gets $2.7 million to help maintain Fire ...

https://www.google.com/search?q=fire+deptments+reseave+millions&oq=fire+deptments+reseave+millions&aqs=chrome..69i57.41445j0j8&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8#q=fire+departments+receive+millions

I have had friends quit fire departments because of the politics, lucrative payments of many hundreds of millions have moved into fire departments that have some wondering why and what is going on politically?
 

Left Ear

(81 posts)
3. And it will switch to the rightful candidate for Labor
Fri Oct 2, 2015, 11:55 PM
Oct 2015

Bernard Sanders.

And it is now a loud message to Hillary Clinton: Not worthy of any endorsement of any kind.



Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
4. Sorry Hillary Clinton has been at the fore front of the first responders....
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 12:15 AM
Oct 2015

that suffered and continue to suffer the most in this country. She was there when the attacks began and hasn't left. if the IAFF doesn't recognize it well then...they can....FDNY will. She was there when Bush's Sec. Christine Todd Whitman was saying the air was fine. She was there when WTC cough (World Trade Center Cough) was diagnosed, the Sen from VT. not so much.


http://fdny.net/2014/09/17/hillary-clinton-discusses-911-health-act-at-labor-gathering/

http://home2.nyc.gov/html/fdny/pdf/emp_resources/viewpoint/2003/november/vp_nov03_page7.pdf




SunSeeker

(51,513 posts)
5. Did you read the OP? They're holding out for Biden, not Bernie.
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 12:38 AM
Oct 2015

Firefighters and cops are pretty conservative.

mak3cats

(1,573 posts)
6. And in addition to tending conservative...
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 12:48 AM
Oct 2015

...these particular professions (in my experience) tend to be pretty much good 'ol boys clubs too. Very dismissive of women. My apologies to those members that aren't.

blackapron

(8 posts)
8. do you think
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 01:54 AM
Oct 2015

for your information, a lot of police and fireman vote republican. so they say that , because they know she would kick their asses!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
10. If we can't have Bernie,
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:03 AM
Oct 2015

….who should be their choice, then I'd much rather have Biden than Hillary.

Sad that unions don't go with the most progressive, pro-labor candidate.

kas125

(2,472 posts)
11. It feels a little strange to click on a DU link to a NYT article and see
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 02:53 AM
Oct 2015

a picture of people I know. The firefighters in that picture are awesome people!

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. I believe
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 04:06 AM
Oct 2015

it is far, far too early for Unions to be endorsing any candidate. This is a time to listen and make a completely informed decision on what they have to offer labor. I believe they should really wait and simply endorse the eventual nominee. It would make the job much simpler.

pasto76

(1,589 posts)
14. NEWSFLASH! Most "union members" are right wing
Sat Oct 3, 2015, 03:52 PM
Oct 2015

speaking as a second generation union ironworker. Who grew up union and knows labor history pretty well.

I can only name 3-4 ironworkers in Colorado who ARENT righties.

Almost every cop I know is a righty. Every FF I know is a righty. Everybody loves the job protections, but they vote republican anyway.

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