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Omaha Steve

(99,582 posts)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:34 AM Oct 2015

1 dead, 3 wounded in shooting at Northern Arizona University (updated)

Source: AP

By FELICIA FONSECA

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. (AP) — An overnight confrontation between two groups of students escalated into gunfire Friday when a freshman at Northern Arizona University killed one person and wounded three others, authorities said Friday.

University police chief Gregory T. Fowler identified the shooter as 18-year-old Steven Jones and said he used a handgun in the shootings at about 1:20 a.m. Friday.

"This is not going to be a normal day at NAU," said school President Rita Cheng. "Our hearts are heavy."

She called it an "isolated and unprecedented incident" and said classes would go on as scheduled Friday.

FULL story at link.


Students embrace outside a hospital emergency room in Flagstaff, Ariz., on Friday, Oct. 9, 2015, after an early morning fight between two groups of college students escalated into gunfire, leaving one person dead and three others wounded, authorities said. The shooting occurred outside a dormitory near the Northern Arizona University campus. (Jake Bacon/Arizona Daily Sun via AP)

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9045ea708c8e438796eb15634fda24ad/officials-1-dead-3-wounded-university-shooting-ariz



1StrongBlackMan (23,502 posts)
3. I just spoke with a sleepy BabyGirl 1SBM ...

she is safe and sound in her bed ... and annoyed that her Dad would call her about something that happened on campus (she stays in an apartment off campus) after midnight ... "Daddddd, what would I be doing on campus at 1:00 in the morning ... I have an 8:00 a.m. lab!"

Glad she is safe!

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1 dead, 3 wounded in shooting at Northern Arizona University (updated) (Original Post) Omaha Steve Oct 2015 OP
From ABC Botany Oct 2015 #1
If only ever'body wuz packin'... Ferretherder Oct 2015 #2
I just spoke with a sleepy BabyGirl 1SBM ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #3
I'd have made that call too, 1 AM be damned. redwitch Oct 2015 #7
Jeez. Glad to hear she is safe. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #8
so glad BabyGirl 1SBM is safe! mnhtnbb Oct 2015 #9
good to hear she's okay LittleGirl Oct 2015 #11
Add my voice ChazII Oct 2015 #15
Glad to hear she is okay. And like you - I would have been jwirr Oct 2015 #16
Glad she is safe dbackjon Oct 2015 #22
Both my wife and I did our grad studies at NAU ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #24
I really loved living in Flagstaff dbackjon Oct 2015 #25
Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #26
I love Flagstaff, GGJohn Oct 2015 #36
My wife and I ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #37
If you do decide to move here, let us know, we'll be honored to have you and your wife GGJohn Oct 2015 #38
If only..... RR2 Oct 2015 #4
Ben Carson sounds like the typical Monday morning quarterback. raccoon Oct 2015 #21
Where's Ben Carson when you need him? /nt NCjack Oct 2015 #5
Cowering under a chair Runningdawg Oct 2015 #27
Did anybody follow Brave Ben Carson's instructions? Paladin Oct 2015 #6
It was near a frat house with shootings before this unfortunately. lunasun Oct 2015 #10
Delta Chi was involved in this shooting as well. EL34x4 Oct 2015 #13
"was not a chapter-related incident." so will not get invlved in the violence outside lunasun Oct 2015 #28
Another one. Lunabell Oct 2015 #12
I wonder if Obama still thinks it's a good idea to encourage debate Baitball Blogger Oct 2015 #14
Guns don't kill people, going to school does! vkkv Oct 2015 #17
WOW ... Think people aren't affected by these shootings? ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #18
we just need to double down and push on dembotoz Oct 2015 #20
What if access to guns and ammo were limited? Tab Oct 2015 #19
NAU Alum here, and former President of a Fraternity up there (NOT DELTA CHI) dbackjon Oct 2015 #23
So, Phoenix Delphinus Oct 2015 #29
Flagstaff is 120 miles from Phoenix dbackjon Oct 2015 #31
Sad but true. Unknown Beatle Oct 2015 #30
The Shooter dbackjon Oct 2015 #32
He looks like a young boy playing cops and robbers. juajen Oct 2015 #33
NAU shooter to face felony murder charge Ptah Oct 2015 #34
They are all isolated events Fairgo Oct 2015 #35

Botany

(70,490 posts)
1. From ABC
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:42 AM
Oct 2015

A deadly shooting occurred on Northern Arizona University’s Flagstaff campus early this morning, and the suspected shooter is in custody, according to a university spokesperson.

One person died and three others were wounded in the shooting, the spokesperson said.

It's unclear what sparked the shooting, which took place near Mountain View Hall, a dormitory which houses most of the campus' students involved in Greek organizations.

According to an emergency alert sent by the university, residents in Mountain View Hall were asked to stay indoors.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/deadly-shooting-reported-northern-arizona-universitys-flagstaff-campus/story?id=34363113



Well it has been 8 whole days since the last campus shooting.

Fuck the NRA!

Ferretherder

(1,446 posts)
2. If only ever'body wuz packin'...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 07:26 AM
Oct 2015

...none uh this wud be happnin'!

Hell, ah wish mah pet dog could open carry! Wuddn't be none uh this shit!

Murka!!1!11! Luv it or.....FUCK YOU!

...........goddammit.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
3. I just spoke with a sleepy BabyGirl 1SBM ...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:18 AM
Oct 2015

she is safe and sound in her bed ... and annoyed that her Dad would call her about something that happened on campus (she stays in an apartment off campus) after midnight ... "Daddddd, what would I be doing on campus at 1:00 in the morning ... I have an 8:00 a.m. lab!"

redwitch

(14,944 posts)
7. I'd have made that call too, 1 AM be damned.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:12 AM
Oct 2015

It is so sad that we have to worry about this for our loved ones constantly. Especially our children. I am so glad your baby girl is ok!

mnhtnbb

(31,382 posts)
9. so glad BabyGirl 1SBM is safe!
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:36 AM
Oct 2015

I have a friend whose daughter was a freshman at Virginia Tech when that horror went down.

My youngest son went up to Franklin Street (across the street from campus of UNC-Chapel Hill) one Sunday afternoon with a friend when he was a senior (2007) in high school. Got a call from him a little later: a guy with a sawed off shotgun walked up to both
of them in an alley--at 3 PM on a Sunday afternoon--and demanded all their money. Two high school kids!
Fortunately, they didn't give the guy any lip and handed over the contents of their wallets. Police caught
the guy a day later when he was trying to rob a woman at an ATM about a mile away.

It's some scary $hit out there.

ChazII

(6,204 posts)
15. Add my voice
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:32 AM
Oct 2015

to those who are glad that she is safe. Like the others I would also have made that call.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
16. Glad to hear she is okay. And like you - I would have been
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:51 AM
Oct 2015

on the phone as soon as I heard. They will understand when they are the parents.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
24. Both my wife and I did our grad studies at NAU ...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:13 PM
Oct 2015

And being a UofA employee, with the Tuition Reduction Benefit, her choices of colleges were Mom and Dad writing a check to ASU, NAU, or UofA ... or, us writing a check in the same amount to the college of her choice. BabyGirl being mathematically gifted as she is, chose NAU.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
25. I really loved living in Flagstaff
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:15 PM
Oct 2015

Was up there taking classes on and off for 15 years (and working full time in between), but jobs are so hard to come by up there.


Got a great education out of it as well.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
26. Yeah ...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:19 PM
Oct 2015

Pretty country and a town small enough to be mostly friendly; but big enough to disappear, if one wants to.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
36. I love Flagstaff,
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:52 PM
Oct 2015

we own a small farm outside of Flagstaff, winters are cold, but we wouldn't live anywhere else.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
37. My wife and I ...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:55 PM
Oct 2015

Have talked / are talking about getting a place up there when I retire in about 4 years.

GGJohn

(9,951 posts)
38. If you do decide to move here, let us know, we'll be honored to have you and your wife
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:07 PM
Oct 2015

over to our abode for dinner.

RR2

(87 posts)
4. If only.....
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 08:18 AM
Oct 2015

Ben "Not only would I not probably not cooperate with him. I would not just stand there and let him shoot me," "I would say, 'Hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can’t get us all.' " Carson would have been there to charge the gunman. Fucking GOP ass hats!

raccoon

(31,110 posts)
21. Ben Carson sounds like the typical Monday morning quarterback.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 12:34 PM
Oct 2015

Also sounds like he's full of fecal matter.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
10. It was near a frat house with shootings before this unfortunately.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 09:40 AM
Oct 2015

In 2011, the Delta Chi house in Flagstaff came under gunfire in a drive-by shooting. “Police say the frat house was pockmarked with bullet holes but there were no injuries,” the Arizona Daily Star reported at the time. The newspaper added that “two other recent firearm-related assaults at the fraternity are also believed connected to drug sales there.”

The Arizona Republic reported in 2011 that:

Police have concluded that recent activities occurring at the Delta Chi house at 318 S. Humphrey’s St., which include aggravated assault and threats with weapons, stemmed from members of the residence selling illegal drugs, Sgt. James Jackson said.

Unfortunately, that would make this quite "normal course" news right?

I think if there had been more national concern regarding gun violence for areas when gang and drug shooting escalated years ago we would not have evolved to so many mass shootings now on top of street drug violence.
As a nation, being ho hum and the ' it can't happen here ' attitude, let gun violence become a common place occurrence everywhere now.

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
13. Delta Chi was involved in this shooting as well.
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:18 AM
Oct 2015
"Delta Chi fraternity said Friday that some members of its Northern Arizona University chapter were involved in the shooting, but that it did not have details about their conditions. The shooting, the fraternity said, "was not a chapter-related incident."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/one-killed-3-injured-in-shooting-at/35742718

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
28. "was not a chapter-related incident." so will not get invlved in the violence outside
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 02:08 PM
Oct 2015

the door. They gather there as a fraternity.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
14. I wonder if Obama still thinks it's a good idea to encourage debate
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:24 AM
Oct 2015

between Liberals and right-wingers on college campuses?

I'm just saying, that we should probably find a way to make our campuses safe, first.

 

vkkv

(3,384 posts)
17. Guns don't kill people, going to school does!
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:53 AM
Oct 2015

Guns don't kill people, going to school does!
- The NRA, lobbying Congress and paying off GOP Congressmen with campaign cash so to bring more death and sadness to America's families at the taxpayers' expense*.

*Taxpayers expenses include but are not limited to: police hours, prosecutor hours, government vehicles and insurance, gas, vehicle repairs, prison food, prison clothes, chains, water, court costs, judges salaries, district attorney pay, prison heat & electric, other court employees, jailer costs, court heating & electric, public defenders, hospitalization, welfare to victim's families, property liability insurance, coroner fees, cremation fees and other associated costs relating to gun crime.
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
18. WOW ... Think people aren't affected by these shootings? ...
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015

As I mentioned up-thread, my daughter goes to NAU ... both my wife and my phoned are full of texts and emails from all over the country from friends of ours and friends of our daughters ... in every text/email (to me), there is a mention of the need for gun control.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
20. we just need to double down and push on
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

hug your daughters for me next time you see them....
and your sons to if you have them...........

Tab

(11,093 posts)
19. What if access to guns and ammo were limited?
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 11:15 AM
Oct 2015

This would have been a knife-fight, or maybe even just an old-fashioned brawl

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
23. NAU Alum here, and former President of a Fraternity up there (NOT DELTA CHI)
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 01:00 PM
Oct 2015

A few comments on this, coming from a guy that argues for more gun control.

1) I wouldn't call this a school shooting. It was a shooting that happened at a school.

2) It wasn't random - two groups got into a fight. One of them had a gun. This happens dozens of times a day across the country. It is only news because it happened on school grounds.

3) At least some of the people shot were members of Delta Chi - Delta Chi has been the scene of several shootings in the past. The Delta Chi house (they are the only fraternity currently with an off-campus house) was the scene of a drive-by shooting a couple years ago. Grapevine also says that it is the place to buy drugs on campus.

4) My hunch is a drug deal gone bad, or a fight over a blond sorority chick. But time will tell

5) The Phoenix media is acting like it's Christmas, and they just got the greatest gift of all time - THEIR OWN School shooting!!!


Ptah

(33,024 posts)
34. NAU shooter to face felony murder charge
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 05:30 PM
Oct 2015
University police chief JT Fowler identified the suspect as 18-year-old Steven Jones. He is believed to be a freshman at the Flagstaff school.

Jones, is in custody and the campus is not on lockdown. NAU officials said Jones will make his initial court appearance Friday afternoon and will be booked into jail on one felony count of first-degree murder and three felony counts of aggravated assault.

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/kgun9/news/Deadly-shooting-on-NAU-Flagstaff-campus-Friday-morning-331516752.html

Fairgo

(1,571 posts)
35. They are all isolated events
Fri Oct 9, 2015, 06:53 PM
Oct 2015

Each more isolating than the last...and every death is died alone.

But the wounds are communal we all suffer the loss.

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