CBS Bans Ads for Dan Rather Movie 'Truth'
Source: Hollywood Reporter
CBS has refused to run advertising for Truth, the film starring Cate Blanchett and Robert Redford that revisits a painful episode in the network's past involving a discredited 2004 news story on former President George W. Bush's military service record.
CBS has denounced the movie, which opens Friday, as a disservice to the public and journalists.
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"That's a disservice not just to the public but to journalists across the world who go out every day and do everything within their power, sometimes at great risk to themselves, to get the story right," he said.
Truth is told from the points of view of Mapes and Rather, who left CBS News on bitter terms in 2006. He unsuccessfully sued the network and has complained of being "erased" from CBS history. Rather and Mapes have always contended that despite the discredited documents, the underlying story about Bush was true.
Read more: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-bans-ads-dan-rather-832635?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_now_2015-10-16%2010:53:34_HLewis&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews
There must be something embarrassing for CBS to complain so loudly.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)Winner right out of the box.
mountain grammy
(26,573 posts)Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)"to disrespect this President in accordance with the Koch brothers and all other billionaires"
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ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)The infiltration right now is the highest I've seen it in years,
ColesCountyDem
(6,943 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)Kokonoe
(2,485 posts)from up a billionaires ass.
Bozvotros
(782 posts)....satisfy the wanton and often perverse needs of their corporate masters.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)It sunk in the box office making 76,000 dollars this weekend. Holy cow. Horrible amount for a movie. Box Office Mojo says it did not wow the crowds.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Stuart G
(38,365 posts)Sad but true.
What they did to Rather is exactly who they are.
Unimpressive, to say the least.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)and said he should have been replaced years earlier.
He didn't exactly rush to his defense during the memo flap, either, and was highly critical of him.
I love uncle Walt, but he had no issue with CBS' actions on this at the time.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Was indeed stupid. And Dan is certainly no Uncle Walter.
Nevertheless, Dan is a decent journalist and the story is true. IMHO.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,072 posts)... he was sorry for it, as so much happened as soon as he retired.
""Oh, well, I want to say that probably 24 hours after I told CBS that I was stepping down at my 65th birthday, I was already regretting it," Cronkite told TV critics. "And I regretted it every day since. It's too good a job for anybody to give up as I did." "
"But only in an "extraordinary situation." "There is a point at which it seems to me if an individual reporter has gained a reputation of being honest, fair as can be, and helps the American people in trying to make a decision on a major issue, I think we ought to take that opportunity," he said."
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/640196300/And-thats-the-way-it-is.html?pg=all
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)and turned his reputation to shit with millions of people, I knew from DAY 1 that it was a "who, me?" defense by CBS.
He was right, and nobody wanted to hear it. Bravo to Dan Rather! I hope he gets his due and sets the story straight for all time!
blm
(112,920 posts)let it happen to him. So do we.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)jtuck004
(15,882 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I think it is a smart strategic move.
MH1
(17,537 posts)Yes, it sounds like "Truth" will track much like the relevant chapters in Rather's book, "Rather Outspoken". Which means yes, it will be embarrassing for CBS.
MBS
(9,688 posts)will have to check that out! Thanks!
MH1
(17,537 posts)When it came out I considered it a must-read, to get Dan's side of the story.
C Moon
(12,188 posts)Demeter
(85,373 posts)Must mean the same old stupids are still running the place...the ones who fired him 11 YEARS AGO!
Someday, they will have to own their mistake and get over it.
still_one
(91,966 posts)great network has been going down hill since Mike Wallace left. Edward R. Murrow and Walter Cronkite are rolling over in their graves, seeing where CBS came from, and where it is today
Submariner
(12,485 posts)he made his bones under the leadership of Roger Ailes, which explained to me why 60 Minutes went off the rails with that phony Benghazi hit job, and why ex-Foxhound Major Garret ended up as a CBS reporter.
still_one
(91,966 posts)Submariner
(12,485 posts)is the CBS news president.
still_one
(91,966 posts)Leslie Moonves is President and CEO of CBS corporations, and David Rhodes is the CBS news president as you pointed out.
I appreciate the information.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I hear KKKarl is shaking in his boots over it as well.
The CBS/Rove denouncements of "Truth" are way more compelling reasons to
see this movie than any commercial they ban about it
Well done CBS.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)The film to be released in the United States on October 16, 2015. <-- that's today!!
Woot.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)What they did to Dan Rather is despicable. I hope that this movie will be seen by as many people as possible.
erronis
(14,955 posts)Me too. I'll go see this in a smelly, sticky theater (with fake butt popcorn) as soon as I can! And then download it for later pleasure.
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Or parroted it from some dumb-ass.
dembotoz
(16,740 posts)diff movie i know, but i had to...will prob go see it now
classof56
(5,376 posts)The ways he does an "end-run" around things you can't say on CBS. Funny!
I suspect CBS has just upped the viewership for Truth. I rarely go to movies, but I'll definitely be in the audience for this one and hope it shows up soon on Netflix, Hulu, etc.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)for many just awakening to the new propaganda system that has usurped the Vital role of the Fourth Estate.....It's been on life support for several decades -now It is pronounced DOA.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)wolfie001
(2,131 posts)CBS never deserved a real reporter like Dan Rather!!!!
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)That one must have gone under Moonves' radar
Duval
(4,280 posts)banning it is not going to keep people from seeing it! And it was a disastrous disservice to the public in 2004.
Cassiopeia
(2,603 posts)Articles like this one will likely bring far more interest in this movie than any 30 second spots would have.
Roy Rolling
(6,856 posts)If you want people to crave something, just tell them they CAN'T have it.
Midnight Writer
(21,552 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)edited because I can't type straight.
7962
(11,841 posts)You usually hear more about it before the Super Bowl because those make headlines, but it happens frequently.
They're all private companies.
kelly1mm
(4,719 posts)against restricting speech do not apply to them.
Why would you think a private company would have to allow commercial speech it disagreed with?
Lochloosa
(16,019 posts)I went that weekend.
Mike Nelson
(9,903 posts)...lies and liars.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)MSM Psy-Ops-that's been going on for quite awhile AtomicKitten.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... a story that those documents were handed to Rather's team by someone who was later revealed to be a plant by "Turdblossom" Rove. Even though the documents were faked, the facts were irrefutable: Dubya was an irresponsible, over-privileged asshole who went AWOL because he didn't want to play "pilot" anymore. So they gave CBS papers they knew they could later "expose" and trumpet as fraudulent. It was a very clever double-blind scam: acknowledge the facts, but do it with faked documentation, then harp on the fakery while the truth gets lost in the shuffle.
That could have been an even bigger story than the original, but the cowards in the corner offices at CBS were too afraid of the Bush mafia.
stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)Lois Lerner's (Bush appointee, Republican) actions never made sense from her first weird public outburst. Just when the IRS
investigation into their non profit (anonymous donor) qualifications was coming to a rightful end. Cross Roads non profit was going to loose non profit status and Rove much of his livelihood & power. With all the convenient "outrage" and noise Lerner started, the IRS allowed Rove to keep his undeserved non profit status (is there a more political organization on earth that Crossroads?). The IRS also backed off completely from all the other blatently political non profits, including the Kochtopus propaganda machine.
Yes,I agree the fundamental facts of Bush's military disservice were basically true and Rove did the preemptive strike planted info/testimony to pervert the truth and save his boss. Then he did it again to save Crossroads and himself.
blm
(112,920 posts).
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)hopemountain
(3,919 posts)- for me means: as soon as my satellite tv contract ends next spring - no more msm tv in my household. ridiculous. cnn and time warner will have to rely on the poor, the uneducated, the ignorant, and the greedy viewership for their revenue.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As much as I enjoyed the movie, The Insider, Christopher Plummer as Mike Wallace never came across to me as Mike Wallace... just Christopher Plummer; so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Redford (a great guy no doubt, but not in the same acting league as Plummer) can pull off Dan Rather.
Regardless, it's a story that really does suggest itself for a well-crafted treatment, and a film I will definitely see in the theaters.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Very under-rated, IMO.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)With his great body of work? Huh. I respectfully disagree and suspect yours is a minority opinion.
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)is the only military deserter to ever serve as Commander in Chief. The most disgusting part is that he was a chickenhawk who deserted from the infamous 'champagne unit' of the Texas Air National Guard where, at the time, preppy punks like him could become veterans without fear of serving in Vietnam, and the little shit couldn't even handle that.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Damn, I'm tired of living in interesting times.....
mountain grammy
(26,573 posts)Fuck off, CBS!
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Now you decide to speak out?
CBS, you suck.
Skittles
(152,967 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Skittles
(152,967 posts)SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)They've always been afraid we'd wake up.
Skittles
(152,967 posts)as always, they end up overreaching
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Babel_17
(5,400 posts)Redford and Dan Rather, or the legal, and publicity, departments of CBS.
P.S. http://observer.com/2015/10/truth-is-one-of-the-greatest-journalism-movies-since-all-the-presidents-men/ (a Rex Reed review)
blm
(112,920 posts)They knew the truth then, but, the owners were promised favorable rulings in Bush's SECOND TERM and they got them.
PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)the same one that gave us the movie The Insider. Nuff said.
houston16revival
(953 posts)is akin to book burning
Suppression is the characteristic of a totalitarian state and dictatorship
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)This whole thing was a setup to get rid of Rather. Get the old time journalists out and get people like Clusterfox and Friends in their places.
And regardless, the only thing Bush was doing during 'nam was keeping all the beer taps in Texas safe for democracy.
SusanCalvin
(6,592 posts)Yep.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I'm putting this on my list of movies to watch.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/10/16/cbs-refuses-to-air-advertisements-for-truth/
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/17/business/media/cbs-refuses-ads-for-truth-film-about-a-60-minutes-ii-segment.html?_r=0
certainot
(9,090 posts)discrediting rather and getting him fired was essential for keeping bush and talk radio played the esential role in saving bush/ rove.
like with everything else all they have to do is lie and distort and repeat it enough and it becomes truth. only talk radio can do that.
biggest mistake in political history: the left's ignorance of rw talk radio
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Seems to me they hired Frank Luntz. Looks like a major league fuck up to me.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)the criminal Bush Administration.
Triana
(22,666 posts)It's playing in my area on 10/30. I'm going to see it.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)Shame to live in a country where freedom of speech and of the press is no longer practiced.
tavernier
(12,322 posts)and the stars, and the people rejoiced!
But in their search for truth, a spirit of darkness descended upon them and mocked them.
"How Dare You?" cried the Lord of Fox?
The network shrunk in shame, and was never great again.
The End.