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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:33 AM Oct 2015

Jim Webb To Drop Out Of The Democratic Race

Source: Talking Points Memo

Democratic presidential candidate Jim Webb will announce Tuesday he's dropping out of the Democratic 2016 race, according to reports.

Webb is scheduled to hold a news conference at the National Press Club in D.C. at 1 p.m. ET.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jim-webb-drop-democratic-bid

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Jim Webb To Drop Out Of The Democratic Race (Original Post) Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 OP
Where will his 2% go? Renew Deal Oct 2015 #1
He's a hawk. His votes won't be going to Bernie, I can tell you that! Elmer S. E. Dump Oct 2015 #13
Wonder if it was dreams JackInGreen Oct 2015 #2
Reporters should not ask him any questions at his own press conference. Lol Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #3
LOL! karynnj Oct 2015 #5
That's a Goid one mainstreetonce Oct 2015 #9
If a DINO cries in the forest..... wolfie001 Oct 2015 #4
DINOs belong in their Flintstone households, not politics. nt valerief Oct 2015 #11
Good. Xyzse Oct 2015 #6
Foreign policy is crucial. What future do we want as a country? NYCButterfinger Oct 2015 #29
Even if foreign policy is crucial, I tend to think Domestic Issues are more in the forefront Xyzse Oct 2015 #48
Jim who? truthisfreedom Oct 2015 #7
He gets a lot of grief here but let's remember he WAS there when George Allen screwed up underpants Oct 2015 #8
yep Schema Thing Oct 2015 #12
Yeah. I was just thinking about that. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2015 #14
He also punched Ollie North in the face underpants Oct 2015 #15
We're recently from VA and applauded Webb when he ran. But erronis Oct 2015 #41
He has a net worth of at least $6M underpants Oct 2015 #45
It's also being reported that he might announce his candidacy to run as an Independent. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #10
Pretty sure he won't spoil anything oberliner Oct 2015 #18
But he'll get a LOT of love from the media BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #27
Maybe oberliner Oct 2015 #34
Agreed. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #35
Now *he* could pull some Republican votes frazzled Oct 2015 #25
I hope you're right, frazzled, and your scenario is more plausible than mine BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #28
In the right state, 1% percent can swing it (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #40
Yes Virginia and Florida underpants Oct 2015 #46
Too conservative for Democrats, too liberal for the GOP Jimbo S Oct 2015 #37
Well, that's about 15 votes tRump won't get KamaAina Oct 2015 #42
No politician in recent years has helped my family as much as Webb. TwilightGardener Oct 2015 #16
GI bill, that is good news and Webb did excellent legislative work. I hope he has Sunlei Oct 2015 #21
Thanks for sharing this. I had heard someone deurbano Oct 2015 #33
thank god Demeter Oct 2015 #17
Has he stated what candidate he will back yet? Sunlei Oct 2015 #19
He was a DINO MiniMe Oct 2015 #20
The cynic in me makes me think.... Bonhomme Richard Oct 2015 #22
I was thinking that when he announced underpants Oct 2015 #47
Will he rejoin the GOP & run for their nomination? Myrina Oct 2015 #23
now thats the most sensible thing i've heard today restorefreedom Oct 2015 #30
I assume he will try to run as an independent. WI_DEM Oct 2015 #24
It's sad. The party will lose military voters. Voters see the party as anti-military. NYCButterfinger Oct 2015 #26
he won't lose military voters... LittleGirl Oct 2015 #32
Bernie on veterans KamaAina Oct 2015 #44
Hey, now here's room for Lessig SmittynMo Oct 2015 #31
Yawn... some of his votes were not good for the country..........ZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz vkkv Oct 2015 #36
During the debate Jimbo S Oct 2015 #38
Now he'll have plenty of time to sit and gloat about all the people he's killed for the empire mwrguy Oct 2015 #39
He's dead, Jim! KamaAina Oct 2015 #43
I always thought it'd be Chaffee who'd drop out first NobodyHere Oct 2015 #49

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
6. Good.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:44 AM
Oct 2015

I don't mind the guy, but his message is sadly at least about 8 years too late.

The current conversation is more on Domestic issues, thankfully(sadly it is still completely unfocused, more towards the trappings rather than the substance, and at least for the Republican side completely missing the point), so his focus towards overseas issues and the wars, does not quite find as much traction.

I only wish him well.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
48. Even if foreign policy is crucial, I tend to think Domestic Issues are more in the forefront
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 02:12 PM
Oct 2015

At least at this time.

I agree that it is important but the conversation has shifted more towards the domestic side.

underpants

(182,777 posts)
8. He gets a lot of grief here but let's remember he WAS there when George Allen screwed up
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

if the Va Dems hadn't nominated someone that voters really saw as a relevant alternative we would have been stuck with George Allen AND possibly wouldn't have Senator Tim Kaine.

I didn't work on Webb's campaign but I did show up at his launch, shook his hand, and wished him good luck.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
14. Yeah. I was just thinking about that.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:56 AM
Oct 2015

He really did come in handy against the "macaca" guy who kept a noose in his office as prosecutor.

underpants

(182,777 posts)
15. He also punched Ollie North in the face
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:59 AM
Oct 2015

Okay it was a boxing match at Annapolis. Supposedly a legendary fight. North was declared the winner on points.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
41. We're recently from VA and applauded Webb when he ran. But
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:28 PM
Oct 2015

He quickly removed himself from another term which punched a big hole in the hopes of having a strong candidate for the next round.

Now he's apparently running away from trying to influence the presidential debates/discourse.

I hate to ask (since I might get shot), but is he a quitter?

Maybe his book sales are enough to keep him afloat.

underpants

(182,777 posts)
45. He has a net worth of at least $6M
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015

He has had several best selling books and I am sure doing well on the speaking circuit. He is also retired Navy and has a Senate pension of some sort.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. It's also being reported that he might announce his candidacy to run as an Independent.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 10:51 AM
Oct 2015


He's going to try and play spoiler!

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
27. But he'll get a LOT of love from the media
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

IF he tries to run as a former-Democrati-turned-Independent. Then everyone will hear of him.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
25. Now *he* could pull some Republican votes
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:19 AM
Oct 2015

But I doubt many Democrats. So I wouldn't be too upset about an Independent run. Probably, he couldn't draw many votes at all. But even 1% could be a spoiler. I would hope it would be to the detriment of the Republicans.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
28. I hope you're right, frazzled, and your scenario is more plausible than mine
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:21 AM
Oct 2015

so I'm going with yours!

Jimbo S

(2,958 posts)
37. Too conservative for Democrats, too liberal for the GOP
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:48 AM
Oct 2015

A man without a party. The Independent route is probably best suited for him.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
16. No politician in recent years has helped my family as much as Webb.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:05 AM
Oct 2015

The transferable GI bill has been a godsend to us, it allows my kids to go to college without four full years of debt. So dump on him all you want, kids, but I am forever grateful to the guy, both for his military service and his legislative work.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
21. GI bill, that is good news and Webb did excellent legislative work. I hope he has
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:16 AM
Oct 2015

many more years in our Government.

deurbano

(2,894 posts)
33. Thanks for sharing this. I had heard someone
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:34 AM
Oct 2015

referring to these benefits, but didn't understand and forgot to follow up (google). With the cost of college today, I can see why you consider it a godsend.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
22. The cynic in me makes me think....
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

he made a deal with Hillary and he will be floated as the VP candidate to pick up some of the right.

underpants

(182,777 posts)
47. I was thinking that when he announced
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:56 PM
Oct 2015

Angling for Sec. Defense or something. Hell the Ambassodor to Cuba would be a pretty sweet gig.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
23. Will he rejoin the GOP & run for their nomination?
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:17 AM
Oct 2015

... considering their field of candidates, he may have a shot at it ...

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
30. now thats the most sensible thing i've heard today
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:24 AM
Oct 2015


he actually would be the best of the gop crop, he even has the military cred they like so much. and he killed a guy...they will be ecstatic!

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
26. It's sad. The party will lose military voters. Voters see the party as anti-military.
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 11:20 AM
Oct 2015

No talk about veterans, no talk about defense spending. Webb brought clarity to that. I don't even think Bernie Sanders cares about military veterans in his stump speeches. Webb was not going anywhere, obviously, and he did not like campaigning anyway. He should go back producing films or writing books. But the Democratic Party will have to have a serious talk about the military vote, because it seems like the party does not want to speak to veterans and families of the military. Webb could have taken some voters from the GOP cuck-coo heads in places lie Bensonhurst/Bay Ridge, Brooklyn, Bayside/Douglaston, Queens, and other blue collar areas. Bernie and Hillary needs to address military families and their neighbors, they need to address working class ethnics in
Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island, and Macomb, Michigan. Time is of the essence.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
44. Bernie on veterans
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 12:51 PM
Oct 2015
https://berniesanders.com/issues/caring-for-our-veterans/

While serious people can have legitimate differences about when our country should go to war, there should never be a debate whether we fulfill the promises made to the men and women who served this country in the military. As a nation, we have a moral obligation to provide the best quality care to those who have put their lives on the line to defend us.



Sen. Sanders believes that just as planes and tanks and guns are a cost of war, so is taking care of the men and women who we sent off to fight the war. It includes caring for the spouses and children who have to rebuild their lives after the loss of a loved one. It includes caring for the hundreds of thousands of veterans with multiple amputations or loss of eyesight, post-traumatic stress disorder and traumatic brain injury. It includes veterans who are having difficulty keeping jobs in order to pay their bills, and it includes the terrible tragedy of veterans committing suicide.
...

Instead of cutting benefits for the men and women who have served our country, we should ask the most profitable corporations and the wealthiest among us to pay their fair share.

Sen. Sanders also strongly believes that we must end the travesty of veterans’ homelessness. While huge gains have been made over the past six years, the fact that on any given night there are fifty thousand homeless veterans on the street is a national disgrace. We also need to make further improvements to the VA disability claims process, which while significantly streamlined, still takes far too long for many veterans.
 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
49. I always thought it'd be Chaffee who'd drop out first
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 05:04 PM
Oct 2015

Especially after that horrendous debate performance.

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