South Carolina Deputy Fired Over Student Confrontation.
Source: nyt
A South Carolina sheriff said Wednesday that he had fired a white deputy who was caught on video grabbing an African-American student, flipping her backward as she sat at her desk, then dragging and throwing her across the floor as he tried to remove her from the classroom.
The Richland County deputy, Ben Fields, was dismissed after an internal investigation concluded that he had violated department standards, said the sheriff, Leon Lott. Deputy Fields, who had been assigned to Spring Valley High School, is also a subject of a federal civil rights inquiry that could lead to criminal charges.
Deputy Fields did not follow proper training, did not follow proper procedure, when he threw the student across the room, Sheriff Lott said at a news conference in Columbia.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/29/us/south-carolina-deputy-ben-fields-fired.html?
jwirr
(39,215 posts)not control a classroom.
elleng
(130,766 posts)'control a classroom,' that is.
ToxMarz
(2,162 posts)They are there, so why not use them for everything that is a little unpleasant. Why you shouldn't have guns in the house, you get mad and might use them in anger.
Journeyman
(15,026 posts)We knew they would transform us, just had no idea how much.
tabasco
(22,974 posts)Maybe the revolution will be televised.
Journeyman
(15,026 posts)NJCher
(35,622 posts)The deputy says he's sorry "the whole thing" happened. Well, the "whole thing" he's probably referring to is the fact that he was taped and got caught being a brutal sadist. (is that redundant? I think so) Sorry, not enough bad words for this guy.
The other item I wanted to mention is that the sheriff handled this well. He made his decision quickly, which I think is appreciated.
Oh, one more item: I think we need to hear from the student. I want to know why she refused to leave the class. If she was interested in texting over learning math, what's the problem? Why not just let her sit in a room and text her little heart out until she finally figures out she needs to know math? Sounds like a much easier way to approach the problem.
Oh, an btw, I am an educator--higher education--but I have worked with h.s. students in the past.
Ok, one more thing and I'll shut up: this cell phone thing with students is reaching a crisis point. This may be the incident, although at this point, it's shadowed by the police brutality issue.
Cher
Tikki
(14,549 posts)this guy.
His future looks dim.
Tikki
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)relentlessly until she changes
her behavior.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,325 posts)... other students are not being taught.
Assuming that education is the goal. And it usually is.
NJCher
(35,622 posts)they have no shame. They could care less if they don't know something. We're the only ones who think they should be industrious.
I happen to be in a position where I see them come full circle, as I've seen them goofing off in high school. I see them in the first few years of college, not taking any of it seriously.
Then, in my college-level adult evening courses, I see them when they finally shape up after getting hit upside the head by the competition in the work force.
Some people just mature late.
Cher
Feeling the Bern
(3,839 posts)I have been lassoed into a write up or two based on that when I was a teacher. The Admin just says it is policy/
As admin now, I take it on a case by case basis, using the policy as a starting point.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)Perhaps she should get a little slack.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027295921
beevul
(12,194 posts)Now the guy needs to be marked, so as never to be a LEO again.
No more than 1 chance should be given to abuse the public trust no matter who the individual is or what good he/she has previously done.
sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)Police departments, the media, no one.
dorkzilla
(5,141 posts)Ive said this before so excuse me for repeating--my brother is a retired LEO...nearly his entire department (including him) were powerlifters (all at the same gym) and they all used steroids. They were all in competition with each other to be the biggest, meanwhile it was making them crazier and crazier.
If we can/should test sports professionals for steroids I dont know why a case couldnt be made for also spot testing peace officers for steroids. They do get random drug tests, just add this to the mix.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Can't believe there are folks like that on DU.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)marble falls
(57,013 posts)TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)and costing the taxpayers millions.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_28952022/colorado-home-second-chance-police-officers-from-other
"In Colorado, where a criminal conviction is required to decertify a cop, an officer with a history in other states of lying under oath, past misconduct, even brutality is eligible to find work here.
Colorado's laws also provide little guidance to smaller, often rural, agencies struggling to find qualified applicants to patrol the streets. Unlike Arizona, which requires rigorous background investigations of those seeking police work, Colorado for the most part leaves the thoroughness of such investigations up to local authorities."
marble falls
(57,013 posts)Shankapotomus
(4,840 posts)Which is probably why it happened to that asshole instead.
stage left
(2,961 posts)That needed to happen.He could have hurt the girl badly.
classykaren
(769 posts)work as a cop?
His force was excessive for the situation.
I think there definitely needs to be some guideline as to what a SRO can do in school in terms of arresting someone (ie: students get into a fight or a student assaults a teacher). The girl clearly broke the rules but yanking her out of the desk was a too much and flinging her across the room was too much for the rule she broke.
I dunno but this goes deeper than having officers in schools, it's about these kids not being taught "respect" at home.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)and complain about her poor parenting.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027295921
romanic
(2,841 posts)I already knew about the girl being an orphan. I was saying most kids in school that act up do so because they're either brought up in broken homes or neighborhoods with little to no economic opportunity.
NJCher
(35,622 posts)at least IMO.
In addition to the broken homes/neighborhoods, in many students' homes, there's no tradition of looking to books to solve problems or enrich one's life.
I'm not standing up for this student, but we have to be realistic about what we expect.
Furthermore, we have not acknowledged the subtleties of cell phone addiction. You think I'm kidding? I absolutely am not. I have been researching cell phone use and students for quite some time, and one reason I think they are so hooked on them is that this device provides some semblance of an emotional connection for them. It might be superficial and it might be phony, but when it's all you've got, you're going to hang on to it for all it's worth. This fits in with your broken homes/neighborhoods comment.
I just learned that the student's mother died. In view of this, the defiance makes some sense. There is nothing, and I mean nothing, that is like losing your mother. It has to be one of the most devastating experiences in one's life.
In view of all this, I do think the student should be cut a break, and I say this as a teacher who goes ballistic when a student is texting during one of my carefully planned classes.
Cher
Elmergantry
(884 posts)My three girls have them. I was opposed. We are starting to have issues. Wife is slowly coming around to my way of thinking.