Sweden can no longer guarantee refugee beds
Source: The Local (Swedish Edition)
Sweden's Migration Minister Morgan Johansson has urged refugees in northern Germany to stay put, after declaring that the Nordic nation is now unable to guarantee beds for all asylum seekers.
Sweden is struggling to provide enough beds for the record number of refugees crossing into the country from Germany and elsewhere, the government confirmed on Thursday.
At a press conference, Migration Minister Morgan Johansson told reporters that there was no longer a guarantee that all asylum seekers could be offered emergency accommodation.
"We are in in a very dramatic situation, it has become even more dramatic in recent days. Last week we saw a decline, but now the past few days, we see an increase," he said, referring to the ongoing arrival of refugees fleeing war-torn nations to seek new lives in Sweden.
Read more: http://www.thelocal.se/20151105/sweden-urges-refugees-to-stay-in-germany
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't think this is going to turn out well.
w0nderer
(1,937 posts)CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)in concert with Turkey, releasing them from the camps, and western interventions that dismantle secular states and unleash radical islamism.
The2ndWheel
(7,947 posts)Get blamed for doing that, like in Saudi Arabia. Or Iraq, for all those years. Get blamed for unleashing radical Islamism, in Iraq, or Syria, Egypt, etc, when the dictators get taken out.
We can't just leave them alone, as that's trending toward isolationism, because what happens to those innocent people that might suffer?
We can't unilaterally attack anyone, but the world at large doesn't do much outside of economic sanctions, which also most likely hurts the people we're trying to help more than the people running the show.
Can't turn refugees away, can't take them all in.
Variables are always changing, and we can't quite keep up with them. We can do this, but that will go wrong. We can do that, but this will go wrong.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)but destroy secular regimes?
It doesn't quite add up.
Are we spreading democracy or monarchy or sharia law?
Nihil
(13,508 posts)> urged refugees in northern Germany to stay put, after declaring that the Nordic nation
> is now unable to guarantee beds for all asylum seekers.
The fact that the incredibly generous & humanitarian Swedes are admitting that they
are full of asylum seekers might just be a trigger to a much bigger & wider issue.
I cannot imagine that the inhabitants of Northern Germany are going to be too happy
about the increasing numbers of migrants building up there due to the combination
of a closed door ahead of them but a trail of still migrating people behind.
This could well lead to Germany closing their doors to avoid fueling the more extreme
nationalists there and that, in turn, will knock-on to the other countries "upstream" of
them.
The time to really worry will be when it isn't just a case of "not allowing more in" but
instead turns to "sending them back".
That's when it could get very messy indeed.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Damascus, Syria who want to flee. AssadPutin have just started bombing neighborhoods there.
Syria bombs Douma despite use of human shields
Assad forces continue to pound Damascus neighbourhood despite rebel group putting prisoners in cages to deter attacks. BBC
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)The media and social media told us for months last year how they were the sickest most perverted mofos on the planet. So they're rehabilitated now?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)half of Syrias people are gone. people can't 'flee' anymore, they can't even leave their homes.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)Are they blameless?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)millions more coming refugees to care for.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's much more fun to assign blame rather than solve problems... so I certainly understand your sentiment.
CJCRANE
(18,184 posts)It's nothing to do with fun.
For the sake of politeness I'm not going to go into the crimes of Isis and Al Qaeda.
But I wouldn't describe being concerned about them as "fun".
Nihil
(13,508 posts)The people who were blaming Assad for this (who were, "coincidentally", the people who pounced on Saddam
for running his country too) are now stuck in a very nasty cleft stick: They have been actively destroying a
sovereign country (= "regime change" and have - in that very process - been supporting the most savage and
radical Islamic terrorists that the world have known (so far). Now, after all that time and despite all of the
warnings, they are starting to realise that maybe Pandora's Box should have remained closed after all.
Too late.
The situation is currently out of control.
The radical fanatics have been given not only arms & funds (standard CIA behaviour) but also the opportunity
to recruit at a scale that they couldn't have dreamed about a few years ago.
No matter *who* delivers the counterstrikes - US, Europe, Russia - the recruiting machine will be reinforced and
fed with grieving relatives of the "collateral damage". No-one will strike at the source of the problem - Saudi
Arabia & cohorts - but everyone will strike at the people who are dropping the bombs, firing the missiles,
providing the weapons that are killing, maiming & orphaning so many in the Middle East.
September 2001 should have been a wake up call.
It wasn't.
It turned out to be a rallying call for the war-pigs to continue to spread death & destruction across the globe
for the sake of profit.
Welcome to blowback world.
EL34x4
(2,003 posts)Nihil
(13,508 posts)The people who are closing the doors - because they are *full* - are not going to
care about niceties as "back to where?". Those are the luxuries expressed by the
vocal (but unhelpful) armchair "activists" from thousands of miles away.
The thing about triggering a "door shutting event" is that it cascades to the next
nation, the one who can no longer stand aside in order to let people pass through
to "somewhere else". That, in turn, triggers the door to be shut in each poor,
increasingly nationalistic nation: the doors that were only remaining open as long
as the exit doors were equally open. Once the exit door closes, the danger from
the combination of frustrated migrants and frustrated nationalists hits ignition
temperature very quickly. All that government can hope to do - in order to maintain
any form of public order - is close the "IN" door.
This will inevitably lead to two things: the first is that the accumulation of migrants
causes border issues; the second is that the strain on the country's structure exceeds
the ability to meet demands. The first issue allows the nationalists to have a free
target of "others" to blame for problems - law breakers from "out there".
The second issue gives the support for the growth of the nationalist response - the
increasing number of innocent citizens who are being impacted by the migrants.
Those people simply will not care about the "where" to send them "back" to.
If there is not a voluntary "retreat" by the people perceived as an "invading army"
then the "where" will be a bloody mess to be talked about by future historians.
(cf. Balkans, Rwanda, etc.)
"Where" at this point resolves to "away", not to a useful destination.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)christx30
(6,241 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)It's a swedish company.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)sorry it late and my beloved team sucked today
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)I'm not sure how they are going to manage to house and feed so many refugees- culture clashes will become a problem. This HAS to be spread out among the whole world...if a country won't take refugees they can at least send money/food.
This is millions and millions of people that are going to need to be provided for.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Yes, and I think that the wealthy Gulf states need to start pulling their weight. It makes me sick that they have not even made a gesture to help their own neighbors and expect Europe to absorb the brunt of it. With my tinfoil hat on, I could think of lots of reasons for that.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Yeah, makes me think the extremists in Saudi think this might be a good way to spread Islam.