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brooklynite

(94,376 posts)
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:08 PM Jan 2016

Jim Webb Hires Draft Biden National Finance Director Sam Jones

Source: 4President.org

Webb2016 has retained former Draft Biden National Finance Director Sam Jones to lead fundraising operations for Jim Webb’s potential independent presidential candidacy.

While no firm decision has been made about a run, Webb and staff have conducted a thorough study of the process for gaining access to ballots in an environment where the Democratic and Republican monopoly of the complicated state-by-state rules are designed to deny voters an independent choice.

“After weeks of study, including consultations with ballot experts and independent activists around the country, we have a handle on what it takes to give voters in every state a real choice,” Webb spokesperson Craig Crawford said. “We are so pleased that Sam Jones is coming on board to help us examine what is now the decisive issue: How to pay for it.”

Jones, who lives in Dallas, TX, crafted a nationwide network of donors last year that was poised to significantly boost a Biden presidential campaign, but the Vice President chose not to run. Prior to that effort Jones has worked on the fundraising side for a variety of national, state and local campaigns.

Read more: http://blog.4president.org/2016/2016/01/jim-webb-hires-draft-biden-national-finance-director-sam-jones-.html

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Jim Webb Hires Draft Biden National Finance Director Sam Jones (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2016 OP
Can someone just appoint Jim Webb President so we can get this over with? BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #1
What an awful ego-maniac he is proving to be. lark Jan 2016 #2
It seems that a running VP from a third way New Democrat Obama Administration would have been DhhD Jan 2016 #7
Typical of brainwashed sheeple blk Jan 2016 #28
Not sheeple, and not nice for you to name call. lark Jan 2016 #29
Who would vote for him? we can do it Jan 2016 #32
Yo... TipTok Jan 2016 #33
I wish we had Sore Loser laws against dropping out of the running Eric J in MN Jan 2016 #3
Many states do -- they usually apply when someone has applied to appear on a primary ballot JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #5
Why is Jim "Killed a Man in Nam" (Big Giggity Grin) Webb DOING THIS????? MADem Jan 2016 #4
He wants to be the candidate of the 1% BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #10
Really! nt MADem Jan 2016 #11
Webb has progressive economic views brentspeak Jan 2016 #13
And on climate change he IS the candidate of the 1% BeyondGeography Jan 2016 #14
Young guy. From Texas. elias49 Jan 2016 #16
I gotta say....not what I expected.... AT all!!!! MADem Jan 2016 #17
I think this is more about Sam Jones needs to create a job for himself... ToxMarz Jan 2016 #19
He's MOSDEF on my shitlist now. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #6
Yasiin Bey on line three... Tennis Magnet Jan 2016 #8
What about Dante Terrell Smith? How many times does he get to collect royalties? Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2016 #18
What an odd little temper tantrum this guy sufrommich Jan 2016 #9
So Webb is still upset that he was barely a blip in the electoral scene? Beacool Jan 2016 #12
Ridiculous. AzDar Jan 2016 #15
Unless Webb is able to fund his campaign himself, BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #20
He has $216 K left from his Democratic run... brooklynite Jan 2016 #21
LOL - and not even too many of those. eom BlueMTexpat Jan 2016 #25
My only hope is he is in it to play spoiler to Clinton. I doubt it, but that is my hope. silvershadow Jan 2016 #22
A spoiler will give us Trump.... Historic NY Jan 2016 #24
It's tough locating a saltpoint Jan 2016 #23
Webb must think he'll swoop in at the last minute and save the day. Vinca Jan 2016 #26
Webb trying to be a Nader to help his 'publicon friends? nt RandiFan1290 Jan 2016 #27
Eat shit, Jim! Odin2005 Jan 2016 #30
He is delusional rusty fender Jan 2016 #31
This is a foreseeable consequence of a primary process where the DNC had its hand on the scale, BUT Attorney in Texas Jan 2016 #34
Jim Webb is adorable. Delusional, but adorable. nt TeamPooka Jan 2016 #35

lark

(23,065 posts)
2. What an awful ego-maniac he is proving to be.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:13 PM
Jan 2016

He seems willing to destroy our country to salve his wounded pride. What awful karma he'd accrue if he runs as an Independent and throws the election to the Repugs.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. It seems that a running VP from a third way New Democrat Obama Administration would have been
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jan 2016

what some would call, Republican-Lite (no way Biden could contradict his boss). So now we have a Right of Center Independent. I believe that the pre-April, more Centerist candidate for the Democratic Nomination, has moved Left, to be in step with the Sanders Campaign. Seems like this third way Independent campaign could replace the late 1990s presidential administration.

Great time for Sanders to come out on the attack of all of the Third Way Parties; those between himself and the Republicans.

blk

(3 posts)
28. Typical of brainwashed sheeple
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 04:55 AM
Jan 2016

Both major parties are scared to death of a third opponent, because they can't make devils of 2 opponents. The ballot laws are based on fear. But 3 are absolutely necessary in order to break the gridlock and force compromise - 3 is the only solution and will prevent any one party from having a majority everywhere.

lark

(23,065 posts)
29. Not sheeple, and not nice for you to name call.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

Jim Webb would split the Dem vote, get little/no Repug votes and a few center left independents, throwing the election to the right wingers. When Perot ran, he ran from the right so split the right vote and Clinton won. 3rd party candidates aren't the answer, they just ensure that the party they are closest to in philosophy loses. Having 4 parties would be the answer to your issue, not 3.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
3. I wish we had Sore Loser laws against dropping out of the running
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:24 PM
Jan 2016

...for a party's nomination and running under a different party or as an independent in the same election.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
5. Many states do -- they usually apply when someone has applied to appear on a primary ballot
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:28 PM
Jan 2016

That is not the case here -- so Jim Webb is not considered a sore loser.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
4. Why is Jim "Killed a Man in Nam" (Big Giggity Grin) Webb DOING THIS?????
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:25 PM
Jan 2016

What in hell is he trying to accomplish?

Anyone know Sam Jones?

I used to work w/a gent by that name--I doubt it's the same guy, though he was a money type....hmmm!


brentspeak

(18,290 posts)
13. Webb has progressive economic views
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:00 PM
Jan 2016

He's to the right of Bernie, but he's also way more the left on economic issues than Hillary is -- who is the candidate of the 25%.

BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
14. And on climate change he IS the candidate of the 1%
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

Webb was peevish at the lone debate he participated in and seems to be throwing a tantrum now. Not impressed.

ToxMarz

(2,162 posts)
19. I think this is more about Sam Jones needs to create a job for himself...
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 02:36 PM
Jan 2016

Thought he had created a good one with Draft Biden but then that crapped out, so what to do now?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
12. So Webb is still upset that he was barely a blip in the electoral scene?
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 01:58 PM
Jan 2016

What's he planning to do, threaten voters into voting for him? He needs to accept facts. The majority of Democrats had no interest in his candidacy.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
20. Unless Webb is able to fund his campaign himself,
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 05:01 PM
Jan 2016

I doubt that this will go anywhere. The Dem donors are already committed for the most part to one or another of the three Dem candidates. Webb has about the same changes as a snowball in hell as a third party candidate if he is able to mount a campaign at all.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
22. My only hope is he is in it to play spoiler to Clinton. I doubt it, but that is my hope.
Thu Jan 7, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jan 2016

Other than that, WTH is he even doing?

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
31. He is delusional
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 03:05 PM
Jan 2016

He garnered almost zero interest in his campaign and now thinks that he can run a successful independent campaign for POTUS?

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
34. This is a foreseeable consequence of a primary process where the DNC had its hand on the scale, BUT
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:09 PM
Jan 2016

that does not change the fact that Webb has no constituency unless it is Republicans who cannot stomach the idea of either voting for Trump/Cruz or Sanders/Clinton.

I think many Democrats may have a PUMA tantrum like we saw in 2008, but I suspect most will come home. I'm not as sure that all the Republicans will be able to unite behind Trump or Cruz. Webb might serve to draw the votes of those Republicans dissatisfied with Trump or Cruz but who might not be willing to vote for Clinton or Sanders.

I doubt Webb will get his third-party campaign off the ground, but if he does, there is little evidence that his candidacy holds much appeal for any measurable segment of the Democrat party or the Democrat-leaning independents (I truly believe he'd have polled better in the Republican primary than he polled in the Democratic primary; I ran across more Lessig supporters than Webb supporters when both candidates were still in the race).

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