Militia groups meet with leaders of Oregon occupation, pledge support

[Eugene]

Source: Reuters

Members of self-styled militia groups met on Friday with armed protesters occupying a federal wildlife refuge in Oregon, pledging support for their cause, if not their methods, and offering to act as a peace-keeping force in the week-long standoff over land rights.

During the 30-minute meeting at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, a leader of the occupation, Ammon Bundy, told about a dozen representatives of such groups as Pacific Patriots Network, Oath Keepers and III% that he had no immediate plans to abandon the siege.

"I was asked to do this by the Lord," said Bundy, a Mormon, as some of the militia members nodded in understanding. "I did it how he told me to do it."

Earlier on Friday the Pacific Patriots Network called on its members to establish a safety perimeter around the refuge in remote southeastern Oregon to prevent a "Waco-style situation" from unfolding.

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-oregon-militia-idUSKBN0UM2ED20160109

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US | Fri Jan 8, 2016 7:20pm EST
BURNS, ORE. | BY JONATHAN ALLEN

[Still In Wisconsin]

1. Did they bring snacks? n/t

[L. Coyote]

29. They may wish they didn't even come. They are all #YallQeada now.

Fredrik Naumann ‏@felixfeatures 9 minutes ago
The #Oregonstandoff is an example on how vital it is white men with beards find a hobby. If not they're recruited by #YallQaeda

Abreu Report ‏@lacobraprieta 21 minutes ago
#YallQaeda #pickup #truck caravan arrives in #Oregon
#OregonUnderAttack #Oregonstandoff #OregonMilitia #toyotahilux


R.E.A.L Human Rights ‏@realhumanrights 39 minutes ago
#OregonStandoff: #Terrorists Lead Eastern #Oregon #HarneyCounty #Insurrection by #Bundy http://bit.ly/1N0n9Hf

akmk ‏@akmk 46 minutes ago
Hey Yahoos. Malheur Wildlife Refuge is for the birds & a public facility for all, not your personal #cowliphate. Get out.

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[emulatorloo]

2. "God Told Me To" is what all the crazies say.

Pretty weird that he thinks God gave him detailed plans.

[L. Coyote]

30. Probably on gold tablets.

[pangaia]

3. Hey ! Dude.. Hey !!!! Hey !! Yea, you. Ammon!

I did NOT tell you to do this.
Stop lying.
Pull your zipper up and go home.

The Lord.



BTW, WTF kinda name IS Ammon, anyway?

[emulatorloo]

16. Ammon is a missionary in The Book of Mormon

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon_(Book_of_Mormon_missionary)

Note: DU isn't parsing the link correctly, so you need to copy and paste the whole thing into your browser.

[pangaia]

19. Yes, I learned about Ammon..

actually thanks to DU.

Not the Lord, but just regular ole Pangaia.

[Gore1FL]

18. One that Joseph Smith pulled from a hat. n/t

[elmac]

4. a peace-keeping force, how nice

makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[jaysunb]

5. Escalation n/t

[Gore1FL]

6. It's like the UN sending troops

Except with delusional, cowpoke, revolutionaries.

[L. Coyote]

31. Not revolutionaries, delusional, cowboy, reality T-V wannabes with a video camera and an arsenal.

This group is evidence that people are getting emotionally worked up. We need more humor. Yo, Twitter ...

[CanonRay]

7. Where in the hell is law enforcement?

Shouldn't they be the ones setting up a perimeter and controlling access? What the f gives? We are emboldening these assholes and not telling where that will lead.

[24601]

8. Where they always are when seconds count, just minutes away. LE doesn't usually prevent crime in

the physical sense. Instead, it works as a deterrent when there is confidence that they will solve the crime. As that confidence diminishes, so does their deterrent effectiveness.

[anigbrowl]

9. Yeah, I'm for the patient approach but this is a bit ridiculous. nt

[Geronimoe]

10. Homeland Security is busy

patting down grandma and grandpa at airports.

[forest444]

11. Exactly.

Next thing you know, Trumpolini and the rest of the clown car will take advantage of this complete and utter permissiveness to make an appearance and cheer these criminals on.

Can you imagine if PETA, OWS, and Black Lives Matter had done so much as occupy a bench along some federal parkland trail?

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

25. I think law enforcement is giving these guys "room to destroy"

in the hope they will calm down on their own.

This approach seemed to work well in Baltimore. Everything calmed down.

[Gore1FL]

12. I think they are trying to make them look like idiots.

Rather than giving them the (probably costly) confrontation they desire, they seem to be letting them living in self-made harsh conditions and will probably arrest them individually at a more opportune time.

That said, I don't know why the 2014 confrontation went without charges and arrests (at least that i am aware of). This may be wishful thinking on my part.

[L. Coyote]

32. No, just giving them space to be the idiots they are.

What is happening is they are not getting the one thing they sought, confrontation to make headlines. Instead, they are the new joke of the planet, and it just keeps getting more absurd. They are giving militia such a bad name the real militia had to show up and try to end this.

They screwed up and are not getting what they want. In good time they will be indicted and served. I'm sure they know their demands are futile, they can't win. They still want a fight. Don't give them what they want. Let them continue showing the world how stupid they are. Meanwhile, evidence continues being assembled.

[kiri]

13. compliance in Nevada

This is the perfect opportunity. While the Bundys are preoccupied in Oregon, the Federal Marshals and BLM agents in Nevada should go to round up all the cattle being illegally grazed by the Bundys on public land. This was the effort that was aborted 2 years ago.

The cattle can be taken to the processing center and the payment to the Bundys can be taken in partial fulfillment of their $1 Million debt.

After their ordeal in Oregon, when they return to Nevada they will find themselves in compliance with the law.

I am sure this will give them much peace of mind.

[Wellstone ruled]

26. As per a story in the RJ News Rag,

200 square miles around the Bunkerville area is a no go zone by the BLM or any Feds. What the heck gives. Enough of the Optics and the Politics,these situations are uncalled for,and we wonder why we have divisive issues in our Nation.

[keithbvadu2]

14. Was Ammon not paying attention when God warned him

about the guy who would go AWOL and drink up his donated money?

[OneCrazyDiamond]

15. Is there an insurrection going on?

I figured it would get too cold. Most would give up. Bundy gets arrested and made an example of. This sounds like people can come and go as they please.

[geek tragedy]

17. The federal government's cowardice is emboldening these fuckers. nt

[rpannier]

21. Yep. I agree

[potone]

22. It is indeed.

Why on earth is this allowed to continue? Right-wing armed crazies get a free pass, whereas peaceful members of the Occupy movement were driven out by militarized police. I no longer watch cable news but is anyone talking about the blatant double standard here?

[rpannier]

20. This is why you don't letr it just sit

It attracts other crazies to the cause
They should have moved these people out in the beginning

[skepticscott]

23. Or at the very least

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allowed nobody and nothing in or out. The government is abetting and encouraging criminal activity by this, now and in the future. The message that if you show up with enough guns and camo, and make enough threats, you can do anything you want, and the Feds won't touch you.

[Firestorm49]

24. What A Crock

"I was asked to do this by the Lord" BS! Really? Show me the actual memo. I would think that this would be world wide news - a militia moron who actually had a conversation with the big guy? Where was CNN? Maybe what this idiot meant to say was, " I was asked to do this by my empty bottle of Jack Daniels". That makes just about as much sense.

[love_katz]

27. kick and rec for the comments.

[Pauldg47]

28. Is this National Guard time?

[L. Coyote]

33. Oregon standoff: As more armed men arrive, should authorities close the road?

Oregon standoff: As more armed men arrive, should authorities close the road?

The arrival of 20 more armed men at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters Saturday added kindling to a potentially combustible mix, raising concerns that law enforcement's low-key response to the situation might backfire.

Authorities have had no visible presence at the headquarters compound since a splinter group of militants left a protest in Burns and took over the refuge compound 30 miles south of Burns seven days ago. Federal authorities have had next to nothing to say about their response to the occupation.

Observers say the FBI, which has jurisdiction over the federal refuge, has been deliberately patient. After deadly confrontations in Waco, Texas, and Ruby Ridge, Idaho, during the 1990s, authorities have adopted a "wait-them-out" response to similar situations in hopes of preventing another conflagration.

If authorities wait too long, though, they risk losing control of the situation – creating a more dangerous or protracted confrontation. ............

Good comments. And plenty of bad comments too.

Are these YeeHawdist paranoid because they were home schooled or because they use Crystal Meth?