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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:32 AM Jan 2016

Demoted Rand Paul Boycotts Debate, Declares ‘War’ on ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards

Source: New York Magazine

Fox Business Network has announced the lineup for Thursday's GOP debate, and while Rand Paul managed to argue his way onto the main stage in the past, he's finally been demoted to the undercard debate. However, we won't see the Kentucky senator sticking it to the other weaker candidates because, as promised, he's decided to throw a tantrum instead.

Weeks ago, Fox Business Network declared that it would be cutting the number of candidates on the main stage from "a ridiculous amount" to "a lot"; only those who topped an average of the five most recent national polls, or five recent polls from Iowa or New Hampshire, would be invited to participate. The network predicted that would cut the debate down to six candidates, but John Kasich was saved by his strong numbers in New Hampshire. He'll be joined on the main stage by Donald Trump, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, Ben Carson, Chris Christie, and Jeb Bush.

Paul and Carly Fiorina were invited to debate "kid's table" regulars Mike Huckabee and Rick Santorum earlier in the evening, but Paul is not having it. "I think they’ve made a mistake," he told the Washington Post. "I'm not willing to accept a designation as a minor campaign. We've raised $25 million. We've gotten on the ballot on every state. It's kind of ridiculous to arbitrarily rate the campaigns based on national polling."

When asked if he thinks his supporters will be upset about his decision to entirely forgo a national TV appearance, he said they're already fed up with the "arbitrary, capricious polling standard" imposed by the media. "It won't take much for our supporters to understand why we're doing this," Paul explained. "You want war? We'll give it to you."


Read more: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/rand-paul-gets-debate-demotion-declares-war.html#



How interesting that when OTHER candidates got relegated to the kiddie table, Rand didn't complain about ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards
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Demoted Rand Paul Boycotts Debate, Declares ‘War’ on ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards (Original Post) brooklynite Jan 2016 OP
Brooklynite, it makes perfect sense: Rand is so very Randian JonLeibowitz Jan 2016 #1
He's got a partial point Reter Jan 2016 #2
You could get it if you had 5%+ in Iowa or New Hampshire. brooklynite Jan 2016 #3
Kasich's polling average in New Hampshire is 11.2%. Jim__ Jan 2016 #4
Rand should definitely pursue an Independent campaign groundloop Jan 2016 #5
im sure many will reddread Jan 2016 #7
Well Rand is a whiny little wiener but he does have a point. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #6
Of course: AleksS Jan 2016 #8
Really? padfun Jan 2016 #9
Why is JEB still in the debates... PeoViejo Jan 2016 #10
I want to see that too. beveeheart Jan 2016 #13
I Can Think Of Little Greater Capricious Standard, ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #11
Let's see if anyone is smart enough to appease his diehard supporters Babel_17 Jan 2016 #12
Waaah! Rand cries because he can't make the cut. apnu Jan 2016 #14
RP whines about ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards keithbvadu2 Jan 2016 #15

Jim__

(14,074 posts)
4. Kasich's polling average in New Hampshire is 11.2%.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jan 2016
Source

New Hampshire polling average is one of the qualifying criteria for the debate.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
6. Well Rand is a whiny little wiener but he does have a point.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:17 AM
Jan 2016

I do love the kid's table metaphor though but if it were truly a kid's table Donald Trump would be sitting at the head of it and throwing food at the adult table.

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
8. Of course:
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:33 AM
Jan 2016

Of course:

"when OTHER candidates got relegated to the kiddie table, Rand didn't complain about ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards"

He's GOP, or in other acronyms, FYIGM.

You see it all the time on the right. They Laugh at the folks they call "losers" who lose their homes or jobs, right up until the GOPer falls on hard times. Then it's a different story.

A complete failure to empathize , or even consider "dang, that could happen to me!"

Everyone else getting screwed-over is awesome, as long as it's affecting just someone else. The world could burn, and to the GOP that's great as long as they get to turn a buck. But the moment their pinky gets singed, OMG IT'S THE WORST THING EVAH! IT'S WAR!

Speaking of, what's with everything being a war? War on marriage, war on Christmas, now the war on Rand Paul's debate status?

padfun

(1,786 posts)
9. Really?
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 11:51 AM
Jan 2016
When asked if he thinks his supporters will be upset about his decision to entirely forgo a national TV appearance, he said they're already fed up with the "arbitrary, capricious polling standard" imposed by the media.


So, all three supporters are fed up?
 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
10. Why is JEB still in the debates...
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:02 PM
Jan 2016

I would love to see Poppy Bush live long enough to be witness to his legacy going down the shitter.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
11. I Can Think Of Little Greater Capricious Standard,
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 12:11 PM
Jan 2016

than the one that allows someone to "inherit" a place in national politics because of who their daddy is.

There is no way this guy gets the irony of his statement.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
12. Let's see if anyone is smart enough to appease his diehard supporters
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:14 PM
Jan 2016

Hard to imagine that Trump or Cruz don't have staffers who can smell an opportunity to pick up an extra percentage point or two when Paul finally has to call it quits.

I can imagine Trump blasting Jeb! as actually being the weakest, his funding aside, and in need of removing his offending weakness, and low energy, off the stage. Cruz, like Paul, has been arguing against all that surveillance power in Democratic hands.

So I wouldn't be surprised to see either offer some objections.

apnu

(8,751 posts)
14. Waaah! Rand cries because he can't make the cut.
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:59 PM
Jan 2016

Suck it Rand, your mystical-hand-of-the-free-market just bitch slapped you. Deal with it or get out.

keithbvadu2

(36,747 posts)
15. RP whines about ‘Arbitrary, Capricious’ Standards
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 06:11 PM
Jan 2016

when he had to make his own medical board because he was afraid he could not re-qualify in his own field.

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