Oregon standoff: Harney County residents put disagreements aside, ask Bundy to leave

[passiveporcupine]

Source: Oregon Live (Oregonian)

Residents of sparsely populated Harney County on Monday night told armed outsiders to go home as they expressed fears about personal safety. At a community meeting, they also acknowledged deep rifts within the community, brought to the surface by the standoff at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

Read more: http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2016/01/oregon_standoff_harney_county.html#incart_big-photo

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deep rifts within the community, brought to the surface by the standoff

This is what happens when you let crap like this go on for too long. It may be a long time before this small community heals from this.

There is a video at the link of a high school girl crying while attempting to address a public meeting, saying "I shouldn't have to be scared in my own hometown".

I hope Bundy honors his word and accepts that they need to leave...NOW!

[Blue_Adept]

1. why would she be scared when there's so many good guys with guns there?

They really need to rebrand themselves as freedom fighters.

[passiveporcupine]

2. More from another link at Oregon Live

Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward accused militias Monday of harassing law enforcement officials and federal employees. Though there haven't been physical threats, he said, the alleged behavior is clearly meant to intimidate.

Since the occupation began, there have been reports of law enforcement being followed home or watched, Sheriff Ward said

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2016/01/sheriff_managing_oregon_stando.html#incart_big-photo

Yesterday I read a story on OL where they (the militants) said it's not just federal land management they are fighting...it's federal government getting involved in what can be taught in our schools, and forced health insurance for all (the ACA).

These guys (the Bundys) remember are Mormons. They probably want this country to be a theocracy...or at least their states.

[99th_Monkey]

3. It's shameful to watch the FBI/ATF subject the Burns community to this abuse & bullying. n/t

[Gregorian]

4. Well at least they can't say that Obama used a heavy hand.

[JEB]

5. Bundy and every armed criminal in Malheur

needs to be taken into custody and prosecuted. ASAP

[louis-t]

6. They're also smoking in a federal building.

Just saying.

[geretogo]

7. We hunt down terrorists with drones over seas and exterminate them . Why are they not doing the

same in Burns ? I live in western Oregon . I want this filth out of my state now !

[bkkyosemite]

8. I live in So. (west) Oregon

Arrest these creeps now!

[roguevalley]

14. I'm from southern oregon but have spent buckets of time in Eastern oregon. They would turn this

on its head in seconds. Don't give them a coup. Let them look stupid. In the end, they will have to cave and leave. There are rifts already in the groups. Eastern Oregon ranchers abound in my mom's family and my aunt lived in Burns until she died. This is a terrible thing.

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. Do you think that the press needs to leave the area first?

Seems to me Bundy et al are getting a kick of so much press coverage.

[davidpdx]

17. I'm from the same area as you

and would like to see them jail.

[EllieBC]

19. I really do not understand

Why they haven't been arrested.

[cab67]

9. Unfortunately, the elder Bundy wasn't punished as he should have been.

That emboldened these twerps to hold an armed sit-in. (It's not really a stand-off if no one is standing on the other side.)

I get that the feds want to avoid a bloodbath. They ended up looking bad in the wake of Ruby Ridge and Waco, where children were killed. I also get that the SOTU address is tonight, and the feds almost certainly want to avoid anything that might go badly before that happens. But these people are breaking the law and should be treated as such.

[LiberalElite]

18. That was the stated reason for the other group that showed up a few days ago -

they said they were there to PROTECT the "militia" from another Waco or Ruby Ridge.

[passiveporcupine]

10. I want them to walk out on their own

And then be arrested. IF they are not arrested, I give up.

Sit in is fine. Armed sit in is NOT fine!

[OldRedneck]

11. Neither Bundy nor the rest of these flaming assholes will leave

Anyone who thinks these sonsabitches will be moved by local folks who simply want to be left alone is dreaming.

My 44 yr old son is a convicted felon -- poss of child porn, indecent liberties with a minor, and a few others.

After his conviction (he got six years probation), I cleaned out his guns, ammo, and related shit. It was a goddam fight -- even though he was a convicted felon, and even though he was looking at 5-8 years in the slammer for being a felon in possession of firearms, he REFUSED to let me take his guns.

On the day of his final probation hearing, his wife kept him busy while I went to the house and cleaned out guns, ammo, cleaning equipment, gun tools, cases, tactical vest, night vision goggles, etc., etc., etc.

I'm a retired Army infantry officer. He had more tactical weapons and shit than a lot of soldiers carry. The bed of my Ford F250 was full to the top with his military gear. Check out the photos of the Bundy militia and the Oathkeepers all decked out in their vests, radios, guns, ammo, etc. -- that's what he had. I even dug up 2,000 rounds of AR-15 ammo he had buried in the back yard in waterproof containers.

Anyway, I sold the guns and ammo and threw the rest of his shit in the local landfill.

He was FURIOUS. How dare I attack his manhood by taking away his toys. He is now out of the house -- my daughter-in-law has a protective order against him as do his sister and his mother and I.

Last year he was all ready to trek out West (we live in Virginia) and join the Bundy militia when he was arrested. Now he can't leave his home county because his probation officer checks up on him, unannounced, at least once a week. He texts me daily, praising the clowns in Oregon and threatening me because I disarmed him.

These people are twisted, sick, angry, blinded by fear and hate. They are dangerous; you cannot reason with them. It's all about guns, ammo, and the coming collapse of the nation, at which time they will band together to save us all from the rampaging gangs of blacks, Hispanics, and Muslims.

I'll likely be banned from DU for this statement -- but -- because of my experience with my son and a couple of his equally rabid friends, if they were shot down in the street like the mad dogs they are, I wouldn't shed a tear.

[passiveporcupine]

12. Very sorry to hear about your familiy problems redneck

I can't imagine having a family situation like that. It makes me cringe just thinking about it.

[The Jungle 1]

13. Thank you

You did the right thing under extremely difficult circumstances. Your boy may wake up one day or not.

[Duppers]

16. So sorry for such disturbing attitudes and life choices

your son has made.

I'm sure you have theories about why this has happened.

Thanks for being so candid.