Episcopal Church suspended from full participation in Anglican Communion

[kwassa]

Source: premier.org.uk


Thu 14 Jan 2016
By Sam Hailes

Anglican Primates have suspended The Episcopal Church from full participation in the Anglican Communion for the next three years.

The decision was made at the Primates meeting in Canterbury where Anglican leaders had gathered to "reflect and pray" about the future of the Communion.

The meeting came about after The Episcopal Church in the United States went against other churches in the Communion by authorising its clergy to perform same sex marriages in July last year.

This week's meeting was called by the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby and was designed to stop a break up in the Anglican Communion over the issue.



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this was engineered by the central African bishops .... homophobic as can be.

[dbackjon]

1. But only Muslims are nasty people...(or so the narative goes)

[MosheFeingold]

9. Oh come on

Being Jewish I am obviously not one to opine on Christian denominations, but I don't see the Anglicans giving the death penalty for sodomy as done in Iran, Saudi, ISIS, etc, nor encouraging the same.

They have a theological issue with which we disagree, well OK, don't go to their stupid church.

Getting upset about other people's religious beliefs when they don't push them on you (and I don't see the Anglicans as the type to do that) is a complete waste of time.

[dbackjon]

12. Christians ARE killing Muslims in the Central African Republic

Christians are killing gays all over Africa - supported by American Evangelicals.


Did your fucking marriage get delayed for years because of motherfucking CHRISTIANS trying to shove their MOTHERFUCKING religion down America's throat?




Thought not.


Are LGBT Americans STILL Committing suicide because of CHRISTIAN FUCKING HATE? YES.


So don't FUCKING tell me how benign CHRISTIAN FUCKING HATE is.

[MosheFeingold]

19. Hmmmmm

"Christians are killing gays all over Africa "

OK so some Christians in Africa are bad, and so what does this have to do with the Church of England?

"Did your fucking marriage get delayed for years because of motherfucking CHRISTIANS trying to shove their MOTHERFUCKING religion down America's throat? "

No, my marriage was delayed by WWII and the Nazis throwing much of my late wife's family and my family in ovens.

Again, I understand your concern very much. I don't disagree with you. I do know, however, after 9 decades on this planet, when to give a shit about something and when not. This is not the time.

It's a purely religious issue within a specific denomination; people are entitled to their beliefs, and provided they don't do things like kill non-believers or force others to follow their religious laws (which is what you are objecting to), leave them be -- not because they are right or wrong, but because there is not a damn thing you can do to change their minds. Save your energy for something that can be changed.

[ck4829]

13. Uganda's bishop was involved in this according to the end of the article

And they are trying to kill gays there with that kill the gays bill. Christians aren't bad, Muslims aren't bad. The ones that try to scapegoat, exclude, and kill sexual minorities or any other minority are.

[Tess49]

2. Not sure what this means exactly. As an Episcopalian I'm wondering if they expect churches

to halt communion.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

8. It sounds like the wafer & wine might continue

But the Episcopalian "powers" may be excluded from something called "the Anglican Communion" which sounds like a periodic international convention of some kind.

I'm wondering if there's a cash-flow issue: does cash flow from the American Episcopalian church to the more global Anglican church, does it flow the other way, or are the two not financially linked.

Anyway, it looks like the Bishop of Uganda scored a victory of sorts.

I just hope the American Episcopalian church stands firm on same-sex marriage. I was surprised it was an issue, I'd have guessed the British Anglicans would be ahead of us on this.

[Tess49]

21. I'm sure the American Episcopals will stand up for same-sex marriage. We pretty much

stand up for everybody.

[Botany]

10. no worries

I seem to remember that in 1776 we told the Brits and their church to go away.

[asjr]

15. And their particular church had its beginning

with a king who wanted his own Church of England instead of the Catholic church.
There are so many self-made religions and churches all over the world it is almost funny. I have been to so many of them I now stay away.

[Botany]

16. I just checked w/my cousin who is an Episcopal Rector

Interesting you should ask. I don't think it really means much because the primates don't have the authority to do what they've done. I'm likely to find out more because I happen to be in London at the moment and will be talking w/many Anglicans and Episcopalians over the next 8 days.
Mary

[asjr]

17. Thank you very much. I have read English books since I was

in 8th grade and I know I must have lived there in another century. I finally got to go to London a few years ago and loved every minute of it.

[Botany]

18. England is nice and my take on the Anglican Primates

[Tess49]

22. Thanks for the info. I suppose it will be mentioned at Church Sunday. n/t

[24601]

29. It's not that Hank - 8 necessarily wanted a church. He wanted a trophy wife. Starting the COE was

the means since Rome wouldn't grant him an annulment.

[Tanuki]

24. In this context, I think it means the international fellowship of Anglican/Episcopal congregations,

rather than "Communion" in the Eucharistic sense.

http://anglicancommunion.org/identity/about.aspx

"The 1930 Lambeth Conference described the Anglican Communion as a 'fellowship, within the one holy catholic and apostolic church, of those duly constituted dioceses, provinces or regional churches in communion with the see of Canterbury.'" - Colin Buchanan, Historical Dictionary of Anglicanism

......"Today the Anglican Communion is 38 autonomous national and regional Churches plus six Extra Provincial Churches and dioceses; all of which are in Communion - in a reciprocal relationship - with the Archbishop of Canterbury, who is the Communion's spiritual head.

There is no Anglican central authority such as a pope. Each Church makes its own decisions in its own ways, guided by recommendations from the Lambeth Conference, Anglican Consultative Council, the Primates' Meeting and the Archbishop of Canterbury.

Anglicans and Episcopalians have always worked and worshipped together across national borders to support each others' lives and ministry. The insight, experience and wisdom contributed to joint endeavours by Anglican Communion members from all provinces means that the Communion can pack a real punch at national and international levels. Examples of such collaboration can be found in the Communion's Networks, in projects such as Anglican Witness, the Anglican Alliance, in its International Commission on Unity, Faith and Order and on the Anglican Communion News Service. " (more at link)

[Tess49]

25. Thanks for the link! n/t

[DisgustipatedinCA]

3. The Primates have decided. Sounds about right.

[Kali]

5. ...

[Recursion]

26. The archbishops still control the cabana (nt)

[Paulie]

28. LoL

[yellowcanine]

4. "Anglican Primates" Are they in the primate house at the zoo?

Seriously one would think they would have come up with a different term by now. The jokes write themselves.

[angrychair]

6. Flinging poo

And playing with themselves....primates sounds about right.

[geardaddy]

7. I thought the previous Archbishop was supportive of LGBT rights.

I may be mistaken.

[kwassa]

23. nobody knows what Rowan Williams thought.

He managed to frustrate both liberals and conservatives. Rowan held Olympic titles in dithering and obfuscation.

These qualities can also be found in the current Archbishop.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. And another batch of religious bigots makes the news! African Anglican Bishops? Let's take a quick

look at Uganda, where 43% of the people are Anglican and the Bishops are hotly focused on anti gay law making and hateful diatribes while opposing all manner of sexual education in the country. While they carry on like this, Uganda continues to lose over 60,000 people a year from AIDS, 7.2% of the population have HIV and there are over 650,000 AIDS orphans in the country. What do they think harms families? Not dead fathers or HIV sick mothers, no what they say harms families is education and equality.
Who has been of assistance to Uganda in terms of AIDS? Non religious groups, many of which were founded by and for LGBT people. Even groups like the Clinton Global Initiative that do good work in Uganda got kick started by LGBT activists educating Bill Clinton from his first day on the campaign trail.
But the Bishops who are in fact greatly derelict in their duties blame those who do their work for them. That's Christertainment.

[hedgehog]

14. I joined with the Episcopal Church largely over this issue

(Well, also because I couldn't take "and with thy Spirit&quot

[allan01]

20. re:Episcopal Church suspended from full participation in Anglican Communion

if these whiny ass bishops wanted to leave , let them. theres the door and dont let it hit u in the ass.these are like the same type of folk who wanted to leave and take the buildings ,but jesus said come and he meant all. not just a few. to ugandan bishops : when you are pointing your finger at us, how many fingers are pointing back at u . suggesstion, look at your own house before u do something like this . we loose a seat at a confrence called lambeth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambeth_Conferences
like bfd

[hrmjustin]

27. "We are a part of the Jesus movement...Keep the faith"