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Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 03:56 PM Jan 2016

Evangelical leader unleashes righteous fury on Donald Trump — the ‘golden calf’ candidate

Source: Raw Story



A top evangelical leader rebuked Donald Trump as the Republican frontrunner wooed conservative Christians with a speech Monday at Liberty University.

Russell Moore, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, posted a series of withering tweets as Trump spoke to what he described as a “record” crowd at a mandatory convocation at the Virginia university founded by Jerry Falwell.

Russell Moore @drmoore
Absolutely unbelievable. https://twitter.com/rns/status/689116742614958080
11:33 AM - 18 Jan 2016

Russell Moore @drmoore
Evangelicals can love a golden calf, as long as Aaron promises to make Mexico pay for it.['blockquote]

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/evangelical-leader-unleashes-righteous-fury-on-donald-trump-the-golden-calf-candidate/



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Evangelical leader unleashes righteous fury on Donald Trump — the ‘golden calf’ candidate (Original Post) Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2016 OP
The tweet link in the "absolutely unbelievable" tweet made me sick. retrowire Jan 2016 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2016 #2
That would be good thing. nt leftyladyfrommo Jan 2016 #3
I know the part of the Bible Moore is referencing... Angel Martin Jan 2016 #6
I got it, but I am Jewish MosheFeingold Jan 2016 #16
no that's the same text, Exodus 32 in the Christian Bible Angel Martin Jan 2016 #17
Donald Trump: "I'm not exactly sure how he feels about that one." Initech Jan 2016 #4
Trump and Sanders Angel Martin Jan 2016 #5
Trump’s a fake Christian. left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #7
Trump may well be a fake Christian (redundant though the phrase KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #9
I disagree left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #10
"Two Corinthians" is actually more common than "Second Corinthians" in churches ... Nihil Jan 2016 #11
Thanks! They both sounded right to my ear, which is why I made the KingCharlemagne Jan 2016 #13
Only reason Trump could quote it is because it is plastered all over the Liberty campus. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #15
Oh, I see left-of-center2012 Jan 2016 #18
Two fake Christians battling in public. saltpoint Jan 2016 #8
"Golden Calf"? More like "Golden Cowpat". (n/t) Nihil Jan 2016 #12
Well he does appear to be turning orange like Bonerman. yellowcanine Jan 2016 #14
excuse me, but... RussBLib Jan 2016 #19

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
1. The tweet link in the "absolutely unbelievable" tweet made me sick.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 04:06 PM
Jan 2016

People who support Trump are isolationist xenophobes with no compassion for their fellow man. Simple as that.

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Original post)

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
6. I know the part of the Bible Moore is referencing...
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 06:12 PM
Jan 2016

"Evangelicals can love a golden calf, as long as Aaron promises to make Mexico pay for it."

...but this doesn't actually make any sense.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
16. I got it, but I am Jewish
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:32 AM
Jan 2016

I understood it to mean that Trump is a false god (such as the calf Aaron brought) and then a play on the promise by Trump to not only build a border wall, but make Mexico pay for it with tariffs.

The story is close to me, in that I am (not by name, but by descent) a descendant of Aaron, at least according to family lore and recent genetic testing that tells all Cohenim we at least have a common Semitic male ancestor 3500 years ago. I always read that story and feel like a complete putz.

Is there a Christian concept with which I am not familiar?

Angel Martin

(942 posts)
17. no that's the same text, Exodus 32 in the Christian Bible
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jan 2016

the Biblical account is that Moses was away a long time getting the 10 Commandments, and the people thought he wasn't coming back and got scared.

So the people decided that they needed a new god to worship. They gave Aaron all their gold etc. and he created the golden calf.
(Idolatry in the Bible=bad, as you know).

So Trump as Aaron getting Mexico to pay for the wall (gold calf) doesn't make much sense unless people are going to start worshipping the wall... ?


Another thought, maybe Moore is an opera fan? A comparison to the libretto in Gounod's Faust would make more sense. However, in the opera, the golden calf was created by Mephistopheles, not Aaron.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. Trump’s a fake Christian.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jan 2016

Clips of him today on cable news showed him saying he was going to read from “Two Corinthians” while Christians refer to it as “Second Corinthians”.
He also said “I have support from the evangelicals”, while a Christian would say “I have support from evangelicals".

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
9. Trump may well be a fake Christian (redundant though the phrase
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 10:04 PM
Jan 2016

may be), but his grammar and usage in both instances are acceptable in spoken English. To wit, it is OK to say "Two Corinthians" or "Second Corinthians." Likewise, "the evangelicals" is acceptable, as is "evangelicals."

Trump is guilty of many linguistic faux pas, but neither of these fit the bill.

Pedantic itch scratched. Now back to regular programming.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
10. I disagree
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 06:07 AM
Jan 2016

Trump Flubs Biblical Citation at Christian College
Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump appeared to mistake a Biblical citation during remarks at evangelical Liberty University today.
The book in the New Testament is commonly referred to as Second Corinthians, not Two Corinthians. The mis-reference quickly drew rebukes on Twitter.
http://6abc.com/news/trump-flubs-biblical-citation-at-christian-college/1164117/

“Two Corinthians, right?” he asked students, many of whom began chuckling almost immediately.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/watch-crowd-of-christian-students-laughs-for-an-obvious-reason-when-trump-quotes-bible-verse/

"Two Corinthians, 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame,” Trump said, drawing laughter from the crowd of students at Liberty University who knew Trump was attempting to refer to “Second Corinthians.”
http://wtvr.com/2016/01/18/donald-trump-liberty-university/

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
11. "Two Corinthians" is actually more common than "Second Corinthians" in churches ...
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 07:21 AM
Jan 2016

... speaking English English

(Now whether that's a plus or a minus for Trump is undecided but the phrase
itself isn't something to bother about.)

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
15. Only reason Trump could quote it is because it is plastered all over the Liberty campus.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 11:15 AM
Jan 2016

It is the Liberty U theme verse. And his awkward way of saying it just makes him look more like a wannabe right wing Christian. Pathetic failed pander attempt. If you are going to pander you better actually learn the local dialect. And if you are going to pander to Bible thumpers, you better actually know something about the Bible - otherwise you just are exposed for the tool you are.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
18. Oh, I see
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jan 2016

That explains why all the news shows this morning pointed out how Trump screwed up calling it "Two Corinthians".
And why the audience at Liberty U. laughed at him.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
8. Two fake Christians battling in public.
Mon Jan 18, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jan 2016

Trump's no Christian.

Although he might be closer to the fold than most of these crazy ass fundies.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
14. Well he does appear to be turning orange like Bonerman.
Tue Jan 19, 2016, 10:58 AM
Jan 2016

"Orange Calf" is not in the Bible so "Golden Calf" is probably as close as he could get.

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