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tabasco

(22,974 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:01 PM Jan 2016

Good Samaritan shot to death by stranded man he was trying to help in Catawba County

Source: Winston-Salem Journal

A good Samaritan was fatally shot Friday by the man he was trying to help in the Bandys community of Catawba County, the Raleigh News & Observer reports.

The car driven by the shooter, Sheriff Coy Reid said, had slid off icy Mathis Church Road and was stuck, when a passing car with two or three men stopped to help about 5 p.m. Friday.

The shooter became belligerent toward the men. “They thought he was drunk and said ‘let’s just call the law and let them deal with it,’ ” Reid said.

As they walked to their car, the shooter pulled out a pistol and started firing. One of the men fell and the shooter walked to him and shot him “numerous times,” the sheriff said. The shooter returned to his car as deputies arrived. They shouted for him to get out. When he didn’t, they called in a SWAT team. The team pulled their armored vehicle up to the shooter’s car and saw that he was passed out, Reid said.


Read more: http://www.journalnow.com/news/crime/good-samaritan-shot-to-death-by-stranded-man-he-was/article_5752a2de-c1ea-11e5-87cd-bb7a8b794c11.html



If only the good Samaritan had a gun to defend himself!
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Good Samaritan shot to death by stranded man he was trying to help in Catawba County (Original Post) tabasco Jan 2016 OP
Another "responsible" gun owner.... paleotn Jan 2016 #1
+100000 trillion Jan 2016 #22
Message from pro-gun movement to Good Samaritan's family: "Tough shit." (nt) Paladin Jan 2016 #2
Bad! Bad good guy with a gun! n/t tom_kelly Jan 2016 #3
What a horrid tragedy. SoapBox Jan 2016 #4
Another good guy with a gun using his own good judgement as to what constitutes a threat. drm604 Jan 2016 #5
Shooter and victim both white alcibiades_mystery Jan 2016 #18
Sweet Jesus on a three legged donkey - beginnings of the end packman Jan 2016 #6
To me, the issue is not just owning a gun LiberalElite Jan 2016 #7
Great post. Consider starting a thread about this. raccoon Jan 2016 #12
Thanks. I will think about it - LiberalElite Jan 2016 #30
True. Nt Duppers Jan 2016 #17
If the shooter had been black geomon666 Jan 2016 #8
sadly, I think we all do. niyad Jan 2016 #9
I was thinking the same thing. n/t montana_hazeleyes Jan 2016 #20
marvin jacob lee, alleged shooter niyad Jan 2016 #10
I think that may be the victim. See post 24. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2016 #33
every link I looked at online says this is the shooter. could not find a pic of heavner. niyad Jan 2016 #36
I hope the murderer gets sent up for a loooong time. nt raccoon Jan 2016 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author TeamPooka Jan 2016 #13
Uh... blackspade Jan 2016 #14
What a tragedy. Sure, everyone needs a gun in NC..NOT! Duval Jan 2016 #15
Oh, yes. Guns make us safer. SheilaT Jan 2016 #16
the daily isolated incident. KG Jan 2016 #19
White gunman get such deferential treatment: FailureToCommunicate Jan 2016 #21
Good Samaritan... Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #23
Marvin Jacob Lee kills Jefferson Heavner after stopping to help stranded driver Judi Lynn Jan 2016 #24
How can this man legally operate a gun drunk when he can not operate a car drunk? McCamy Taylor Jan 2016 #25
You mentioned some good ideas, especially: raccoon Jan 2016 #27
How would insurance help? n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #31
Well, if an idiot shot somebody "accidentally", at least the insurance raccoon Jan 2016 #34
would you have to be an idiot... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jan 2016 #35
He can't sarisataka Jan 2016 #32
IBTL:Drunk theatergoer fumbles gun, shoots patron in chest freeplessinseattle Jan 2016 #26
I bet Marvin Jacob Lee has run afoul of the law before. nt raccoon Jan 2016 #28
I've gotten out of my car to talk to other drivers... Jerry442 Jan 2016 #29
Jesus fucking Christ.... Blue_Tires Jan 2016 #37

drm604

(16,230 posts)
5. Another good guy with a gun using his own good judgement as to what constitutes a threat.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:32 PM
Jan 2016

I'd be interested in knowing the races of those involved.

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
6. Sweet Jesus on a three legged donkey - beginnings of the end
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:36 PM
Jan 2016

Every time I hear of something like this , I am reminded of the times I had to take my shoes off going thru airport security and how that one asshole changed the entire boarding experience of millions upon millions of people.

Things like this HAS to have an impact on a society - thanks NRA for arming all those idiots. Now when we see a car in distress, a person MAYBE needing help, etc. - we are (at least I am) going to think twice about offering help.

The good Samaritan indeed is going to be a thing of the past and that is sad.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. To me, the issue is not just owning a gun
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

too many seem to have a profoundly twisted mindset which permits them to kill as they see fit. These people don't purchase a gun for protection with the hope they'll never have to use it.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
12. Great post. Consider starting a thread about this.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Sat Jan 23, 2016, 06:17 PM - Edit history (1)


too many seem to have a profoundly twisted mindset which permits them to kill as they see fit.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
30. Thanks. I will think about it -
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:43 AM
Jan 2016

it was hard for me to find the words as it was. The decent people who own guns (I do think there are some) find common cause with the others and the issue gets very muddied.

geomon666

(7,512 posts)
8. If the shooter had been black
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 01:47 PM
Jan 2016

would they have bothered to ask him to get out of the car or would they have just lit the fucking thing up? Somehow I think I already know the answer.

Response to tabasco (Original post)

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
21. White gunman get such deferential treatment:
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:58 PM
Jan 2016

..."They shouted for him to get out. When he didn’t, they called in a SWAT team. The team pulled their armored vehicle up to the shooter’s car and saw that he was passed out, Reid said."



Judi Lynn

(160,452 posts)
24. Marvin Jacob Lee kills Jefferson Heavner after stopping to help stranded driver
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:37 AM
Jan 2016

Marvin Jacob Lee kills Jefferson Heavner after stopping to help stranded driver

January 23, 2016 By Christopher Koulouris


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What prompted one stranded motorist, Marvin Jacob Lee to kill an individual who had come to his aid? Pictured from left to
right, Marvin Jacob Lee and his victim Jefferson Heavner.
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Marvin Jacob Lee, 27 has been charged with murder after shooting dead passing motorist, Jefferson Heavner who had sought to assist the man who had become stranded after his car spun out of control along a North Carolina road.

The charge against the ‘belligerent’ man comes after cops telling Lee struck Heavner once before standing over him and shooting him numerous times.

Jefferson Heavner’s death comes after the Good Samaritan was one of a group of people, including neighbors and a passing truck, who went to help when they saw a car spin out and become stuck on a Catawba County road around 5.20pm amidst the grips of winter snow storm Jonas.

To the group’s surprise, Lee began to become belligerent, leading to the group deciding to call for police for assistance, told a statement via Sheriff Coy Reid.

More:
http://scallywagandvagabond.com/2016/01/marvin-jacob-lee-kills-jefferson-heavner-after-stopping-to-help-stranded-driver/

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
25. How can this man legally operate a gun drunk when he can not operate a car drunk?
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:26 AM
Jan 2016

We need the same safety laws for guns that we do for cars. Anyone drunk waving a gun around goes to jail whether they shoot anyone or not. All gun owners have to have insurance for when they stupidly shoot or kill someone accidentally. They all have to take a gun owners class. No one drinking is allowed to carry a gun and if you are carrying a gun you do not get to drink--not to the point of intoxication. And a conviction for carrying a gun while drunk gets your gun license yanked. This is a clear matter of public safety.

The first amendment does not give you the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. The second does not give you a right to use a gun while drunk.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
27. You mentioned some good ideas, especially:
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 08:07 AM
Jan 2016
All gun owners have to have insurance for when they stupidly shoot or kill someone accidentally.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
34. Well, if an idiot shot somebody "accidentally", at least the insurance
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jan 2016

could help the victim's family with medical and/or funeral expenses.

sarisataka

(18,500 posts)
32. He can't
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jan 2016

Under NC law it was an equal or greater offence to carry a gun while intoxicated than it was to drive drunk.

I agree with your reccomended punishment.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
29. I've gotten out of my car to talk to other drivers...
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 09:23 AM
Jan 2016

...once when an elderly woman was driving on a nearly flat tire and once when a driver misunderstood a sign and stopped way short of the sensor that changes the light from red to green.

I don't think I'll do that anymore.

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