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lamp_shade

(14,826 posts)
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:09 PM Jan 2016

Des Moines Register Endorses Rubio and Clinton in Iowa Caucuses

Source: Bloomberg

U.S. Senator Marco Rubio and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton received potential boosts to their presidential bids in Iowa by winning the endorsements of the Des Moines Register, the dominant newspaper in the state where the Feb. 1 caucuses will start the 2016 nomination voting.

"Rubio has the potential to chart a new direction for the party, and perhaps the nation, with his message of restoring the American dream," Iowa's largest newspaper said in an endorsement of Florida Republican published on its website Saturday evening. "We endorse him because he represents his party’s best hope."

On the Democratic side, the newspaper's editorial said this of Clinton: "No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience."

The editorial made note of Clinton's top rival, U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and the emotional appeal he's generated in the party: "In the final analysis, Iowa Democrats will have to choose between the lofty idealism of Bernie Sanders and the down-to-earth pragmatism of Hillary Clinton. For some, this will be a choice of whether to vote with their hearts or their heads."

Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-01-23/des-moines-register-endorses-rubio-and-clinton-in-iowa-caucuses

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Des Moines Register Endorses Rubio and Clinton in Iowa Caucuses (Original Post) lamp_shade Jan 2016 OP
YAY Hillary Iliyah Jan 2016 #1
A party whose "best hope" is represented saltpoint Jan 2016 #2
Christie: If Rubio were nominee, Hillary would 'cut his heart out' lamp_shade Jan 2016 #5
Saw that. Yes. It's finally happening -- the saltpoint Jan 2016 #10
From Bush's Air America and Iran-Cocaine-Contra to Narco Rubio, forest444 Jan 2016 #7
It does. Or an old-fashioned saltpoint Jan 2016 #12
Your words to God's ear. forest444 Jan 2016 #13
. underpants Jan 2016 #3
Rubio!? book_worm Jan 2016 #4
Rubio is like a wind-up doll. He sounds great ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #19
I know what you mean. MBS Jan 2016 #21
A smart ALEC president? Teh HORROR! ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #26
He'll probably get better lessons now loyalsister Jan 2016 #38
I don't get the appeal of Rubio Politicub Jan 2016 #41
I do like Santorum. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #44
Santorum is a never-ending source of comedy gold Politicub Jan 2016 #46
I never suspected that his depth would be so . . ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #49
Santorum is deep alright. Politicub Jan 2016 #50
Eeew. ChairmanAgnostic Jan 2016 #51
his age & DNA. It will be cruz & rubio, vp/pres. if trump manages primary win- one of them is vp. Sunlei Jan 2016 #45
The "GOLD STANDARD" of Iowa politics!!! Brava, Madame President! George II Jan 2016 #6
They started endorsing in 1988: elleng Jan 2016 #8
Who were the candidates to the left of Edwards? pnwmom Jan 2016 #11
Right? wildeyed Jan 2016 #16
Howard Dean? oberliner Jan 2016 #25
Howard Dean, probably. But I don't see the others as to the left pnwmom Jan 2016 #27
What about Kucinich? oberliner Jan 2016 #29
I didn't see him on Wikipedia's list for that year, but maybe they missed him. n/t pnwmom Jan 2016 #30
He's there oberliner Jan 2016 #32
So I guess we can just disavow this endorsement eh??? a kennedy Jan 2016 #14
is it more a curse than an endorsement then? tomm2thumbs Jan 2016 #17
Rubio, lmfao. nt TeamPooka Jan 2016 #9
Would Rubio show up to work? roody Jan 2016 #15
Hell no, it so BORING! elleng Jan 2016 #18
And Rubio over Clinton mhatrw Jan 2016 #20
Alrighty then....good luck with those! SoapBox Jan 2016 #22
Among democrats in Iowa it will have close to 0 impact rurallib Jan 2016 #23
Yep. that about sums it up. n/t progressoid Jan 2016 #24
No surprises here. StandingInLeftField Jan 2016 #28
But if they had endorsed Sanders, his followers would be doing cartwheels down Main Street. George II Jan 2016 #34
Great endorsement!!! Beacool Jan 2016 #31
Gannett Makes the Choice I would Rafale Jan 2016 #33
It is eerie, the similarities to 2008 mikehiggins Jan 2016 #35
conservative rag endorses conservative candidates Doctor_J Jan 2016 #36
hopefully with their heads Bernie will get it. n/t or the dem party is doomed PatrynXX Jan 2016 #37
Ball-less wonders skepticscott Jan 2016 #39
Fantastic endorsement and great write up! Politicub Jan 2016 #40
HUGE--->Concord NH Monitor endorses i riversedge Jan 2016 #42
Wonderful!! Link here ... lamp_shade Jan 2016 #43
Goodness, I forgot to REC this fabulous event. Congrats to Hillary and her team riversedge Jan 2016 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author lamp_shade Jan 2016 #48

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. A party whose "best hope" is represented
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jan 2016

by Marco Rubio is a party that ought to disband before it collapses of its own stupidity.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
10. Saw that. Yes. It's finally happening -- the
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jan 2016

Republican are turning on each other "like rats in a slum fire," to steal Hunter Thompson's great phrase.

The Pukes have a stageful of extremely unqualified candidates, each desperately trying to pretend that his balls are bigger than all the others, Ms. Fiorina's inclusion on the stage notwithstanding, by claiming ___ loses big to the Democrats, by claiming ___ can't handle Putin or ISIS, and by claiming ____ will install amnesty as a core foreign policy tenet.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
7. From Bush's Air America and Iran-Cocaine-Contra to Narco Rubio,
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jan 2016

what that party needs is a RICO warrant.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
12. It does. Or an old-fashioned
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jan 2016

dissembing, prompted by a blue landslide up and down the ballot in November.

I would never have guessed Trump would run, nevermind that he would command the field a week before the Iowa caucuses.

One plus of having him in there at all is that he may take three-quarters of other Republicans down with him. That would be a very good outcome and at least some compensation for having to listen to him flap his bigoted mouth all these past months.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
13. Your words to God's ear.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

Having the Donald drag down that many GOP congresscritters with him would be, well, yooge!

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
19. Rubio is like a wind-up doll. He sounds great
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jan 2016

when he recites his lines, and frankly, he recites them not too shabbily. But, ask a follow-up question, and this glaze crosses over his eyes, as he tries to remember what he memorized. He is, bar none, as shallow and dimensionless candidate that I have ever seen. Even George Bush spoke rather smartly as governor of Texas. I disagreed with him always, but he spoke well (unlike his time as president). Rubio is a leaf ready to fall with the slightest gust or headwind.

MBS

(9,688 posts)
21. I know what you mean.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jan 2016

Rubio has this way of reeling off a lot of words with a kind of fluency, but at the end you realize his words don't really say anything.Yup, you're right, "shallow and dimensionless". I'd also add "shamelessly careerist" and an irresponsible work ethic (his pattern seems to be that he gets elected to an office, and uses it not to do the work he was elected to do, but to promote himself to another, higher office. Hopefully, this trick won't work this time).

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
38. He'll probably get better lessons now
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 02:22 AM
Jan 2016

He worries me. He could attract a lot of voters if he has better stage managing. He could be their best hope.

The age disparity worries me. Over the past 40 + years, if there was a substantial age difference, the younger candidate has won (except the actor).

I fear the debates will look like a parent verbally beating up on a kid.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
41. I don't get the appeal of Rubio
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:27 PM
Jan 2016

But then again, I don't get the appeal of any of the republican nominees.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
44. I do like Santorum.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:14 PM
Jan 2016

He is such an endless source of jokes and humor, that few of the others can come close as entertainment.

Actually, Santorum included, I think that there are at least six GOPers who have serious mental issues. Putting anyone of them in charge of this country would destroy it.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
46. Santorum is a never-ending source of comedy gold
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:45 PM
Jan 2016

Topped only by Sarah Palin, of course. Rubio is riding along on the crazy train, though.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
45. his age & DNA. It will be cruz & rubio, vp/pres. if trump manages primary win- one of them is vp.
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 01:22 PM
Jan 2016

elleng

(130,864 posts)
8. They started endorsing in 1988:
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:18 PM
Jan 2016

In 1988, they endorsed Paul Simon, Illinois
In 1992, they did not endorse - Harkin was the favorite son that year, very surprised they did not honor him
In 2000, they endorsed Bill Bradley
In 2004, they endorsed John Edwards -- rather than several far better men running against him
In 2008, they endorsed HRC

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/editorials/endorsement/2016/01/22/history-register-caucus-endorsements/79158560/


In the 4 they endorsed, their pick lost both the Iowa caucus and the nomination. It is hard to see a pattern in their choices- especially remember that 2004 Edwards ran to the right of almost everyone but Lieberman.

#11 here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027555426

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
27. Howard Dean, probably. But I don't see the others as to the left
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:26 PM
Jan 2016

of Edwards, do you? And certainly not Gen. Clark.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
29. What about Kucinich?
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

I believe he was in the mix at that point, too. He was to the left of Edwards certainly.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. He's there
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

Candidates[edit]
Howard B. Dean III, former governor of Vermont
John R. Edwards, U.S. senator from North Carolina
Richard A. "Dick" Gephardt, U.S. representative from Missouri
John F. Kerry, U.S. senator from Massachusetts
Dennis J. Kucinich, U.S. representative from Ohio

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Democratic_caucuses,_2004

a kennedy

(29,644 posts)
14. So I guess we can just disavow this endorsement eh???
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:29 PM
Jan 2016

they endorsed ALL losers. Sorry, love all our canidadets, but this endorsement doesn't mean anything. Feeling the Bern.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
22. Alrighty then....good luck with those!
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jan 2016

I know of thousands (or is it millions) that will move a different candidate forward.

No more Turd Way or Tea Baggers in D.C.

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
23. Among democrats in Iowa it will have close to 0 impact
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jan 2016

The Register's influence faded long ago when Gannet bought them.
From my perspective, Gannet just endorsed Hillary which is about what we should expect of corporate news.

But it will look good on the shelf with all the other endorsements that mean little these days.

Don't know if the Rubio endorsement will have any impact and frankly do not care. Considering that Iowa Repugs usually vote for a new pope then Rubio won't be it.

28. No surprises here.
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jan 2016

Corporate media and union management endorsements mean nothing, and I would be ashamed if they DID endorse Bernie.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. Great endorsement!!!
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 08:48 PM
Jan 2016

"The presidency is not an entry-level position. Whoever is sworn into office next January must demonstrate not only a deep understanding of the issues facing America, but also possess the diplomatic skills that enable presidents to forge alliances to get things done.

By that measure, Democrats have one outstanding candidate deserving of their support: Hillary Clinton. No other candidate can match the depth or breadth of her knowledge and experience.

-------

Sanders has tapped into the public’s anger and frustration with Washington, without demonizing government and resorting to the cheap demagoguery favored by Donald Trump and others. He has shown himself to be a man of courage and principle who has the ability to rally others to his cause.

But Sanders admits that virtually all of his plans for reform have no chance of being approved by a Congress that bears any resemblance to the current crop of federal lawmakers. This is why, he says, voters can’t simply elect him president, but must instead spark a “political revolution.”

Easier said than done. Congress has the largest Republican majority since the 71st Congress of 1929-31.

A successful Sanders presidency would hinge on his ability to remake Washington in his own image. It’s almost inconceivable that such a transformation could take place, even with Democrats controlling both chambers of Congress."


Hear, hear!!!!!


mikehiggins

(5,614 posts)
35. It is eerie, the similarities to 2008
Sat Jan 23, 2016, 09:34 PM
Jan 2016

so now the register endorses HRC again.

How did that work out last time?

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
39. Ball-less wonders
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 10:45 AM
Jan 2016

Any paper with an ounce of real integrity and journalistic courage would have looked at the Republican field and refused to endorse any of them. Which, of course, means that no paper in the country will do that.

Any reasonably intelligent high schooler could write a slam-dunk editorial on why none of the Republican candidates is remotely qualified or fit to be president.

riversedge

(70,186 posts)
42. HUGE--->Concord NH Monitor endorses i
Sun Jan 24, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016


Adam Parkhomenko ‏@AdamParkhomenko 20m20 minutes ago

HUGE: #fitn

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