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jpak

(41,757 posts)
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:17 PM Jan 2016

Poliquin to introduce No Welfare for Terrorists Act

Source: Bangor Daily News

AUGUSTA, Maine — U.S. Rep. Bruce Poliquin of the 2nd Congressional District said Wednesday that he is preparing to submit proposed legislation that would bar anyone convicted of association with a terrorist attack from ever receiving food stamp benefits.

The bill, which Poliquin says he will file with U.S. House of Representatives staff on Monday, is called the No Welfare for Terrorists Act. It would close what Poliquin said is a loophole in qualification criteria for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, more commonly known as food stamps. That benefit is already banned for people convicted of violent crimes such as murder and rape. But according to Poliquin, the ban does not extend to people who are convicted of aiding terrorists.

Both “international terrorist” and “domestic terrorist” are already defined in U.S. law, generally as people whose acts intend to intimidate the civilian population, influence government by intimidation or coercion, or impede the conduct of government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Poliquin’s bill applies to both.

Poliquin said by phone Wednesday that he is unaware of anyone convicted of involvement in a terrorist action receiving food stamps in the past, but he is more concerned with the future.

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No SNAP for the Bundy's!!!!!!1111

PS Poliquin is a tax cheatin' dweeb.

yup
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Poliquin to introduce No Welfare for Terrorists Act (Original Post) jpak Jan 2016 OP
Oh good, no more corporate welfare or welfare for the oligarchs! Dont call me Shirley Jan 2016 #1
perhaps we could demand that right to lie earn that status dembotoz Jan 2016 #2
Good - take a giant step packman Jan 2016 #3
How about No Guns for Terrorists Act. Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #4
At least one of the Oregon militants was banned from buying guns IronLionZion Jan 2016 #27
Yes, but what about the rest of those "good patriots?" Or Islamic terrorists? Feeling the Bern Jan 2016 #28
Says it includes domestic terrorist, Mendocino Jan 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Jan 2016 #6
Sounds pretty sensible to me. smirkymonkey Jan 2016 #7
Sure angrychair Jan 2016 #9
Well, it would be, but I can't imagine that it's a real problem. JoeyT Jan 2016 #12
Can you be convicted of being a shapeshifter from another planet? PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #20
If They're Guilty of Acts of Terrorism. . . ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #24
I am not advocating that all. PersonNumber503602 Jan 2016 #25
No Offense Intended ProfessorGAC Jan 2016 #29
Good. 840high Jan 2016 #8
That sounds like a solution in need of a problem. LeftyMom Jan 2016 #10
So no more welfare for people who hate the government PatrynXX Jan 2016 #11
I prefer laws that punish terrorism regardless of personal wealth. Gore1FL Jan 2016 #13
no more money or weapons for saudi yurbud Jan 2016 #14
Does this go for Christian terrorists as well? RoccoR5955 Jan 2016 #15
bout time BadGimp Jan 2016 #16
Stupid shit Tab Jan 2016 #17
welfare starts at the top toothless dragon Jan 2016 #18
It's time to put a stop to all those terrorist welfare queens... Little Tich Jan 2016 #19
If I'm reading the OP right, christx30 Jan 2016 #23
So Poliquin's not accepting his Congressional pay? Gormy Cuss Jan 2016 #21
this putz needs a hobby other than being a fear mongering simpleton olddots Jan 2016 #22
He will tell his constituents he fought to stop terrorists from funding terrorism with food stamps. Agnosticsherbet Jan 2016 #26
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
3. Good - take a giant step
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jan 2016

and look into insurance fraud, social security benefits, foster child care and every other scam these government-hating asswipes take advantage of - start with raising the cost of grazing cattle on public lands, oil and mining rip offs.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
28. Yes, but what about the rest of those "good patriots?" Or Islamic terrorists?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 09:13 PM
Jan 2016

Nope. . .guns, guns and more guns.

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
5. Says it includes domestic terrorist,
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jan 2016

then expand beyond just food stamps and include disability fraud. That would force most of the bundy terrorists off the public dole.

Response to jpak (Original post)

angrychair

(8,695 posts)
9. Sure
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jan 2016

But remember, we are talking about public assistance for our most vulnerable citizens, if it can it will be used against them it will.
This part of the definition:
"acts intend to intimidate the civilian population"

It will be made broader and broader and used as a tool to kick poor people off public assistance.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
12. Well, it would be, but I can't imagine that it's a real problem.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jan 2016

What next? No welfare for shapeshifters from other planets? Can you PROVE you're not a shapeshifter from another world? Well until you can, no benefits for you!

If this actually only hurt the people it's claimed to, I can't imagine it would effect more than a half a dozen people in the entire country. It won't, of course. It'll be one more hurdle to jump for people that need help.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
20. Can you be convicted of being a shapeshifter from another planet?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:32 PM
Jan 2016

Last edited Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:07 PM - Edit history (1)

I believe this only goes for people who are convicted of terrorist acts.

My concern would be less with the terroristy person, but rather if they have kids. I'm not sure how that works though in those situations. There's also the argument that making it more difficult for a person to get by, may in fact drive them to commit crimes, or in this case to commit terrorist acts. Someone with a violent felony or terrorist charge on their record is going to have a hard time finding employment to support themselves. So they end up having a lot working against them, and it often pushes them back into a criminal life. Yeah, it's their fault that they committed the crimes, but the way we do things seem counter productive.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
24. If They're Guilty of Acts of Terrorism. . .
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:15 PM
Jan 2016

. . .and they've been convicted, how are food stamps even an issue? They'd be in jail, wouldn't they?

Or are you recommending that the children of bad guys be deprived because daddy was a violent idiot with a cause?

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
25. I am not advocating that all.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jan 2016

In fact I said I take issue with that and said the way we do things is counter productive. Assuming the person convicted of a terrorist act (or violent crime) served his/her time, I don't like the idea of continuing to make life more difficult for them.

I think the confusion might be coming from the fact I am not very good at these "words" things, and my post was more or less me just throwing out my thoughts as they popped into my head. I wasn't so much trying to make any specific point.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
10. That sounds like a solution in need of a problem.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 09:15 PM
Jan 2016

But for god's sake, let's come up with one more box to check and potential problem to create. It's too damned easy to feed hungry people in this country.

Gore1FL

(21,128 posts)
13. I prefer laws that punish terrorism regardless of personal wealth.
Wed Jan 27, 2016, 10:07 PM
Jan 2016

If inhumane starvation is the punishment for terror then the rich ones avoid it. I have a problem with each half of that sentence.



Tab

(11,093 posts)
17. Stupid shit
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:59 AM
Jan 2016

We'll put them in jail and feed them for free. Who needs food stamps?

C'mon, people, put your brain into something realistic aside from pandering to your base.

 

toothless dragon

(51 posts)
18. welfare starts at the top
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jan 2016

If they want to defund terrorism, start with the Corporations..like any company that buys ISIS Oil through Turkey...throw the board in jail and put the company in receivership.. Like The Bundy Ranch and remove all their government benefits..

christx30

(6,241 posts)
23. If I'm reading the OP right,
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 01:43 PM
Jan 2016

anyone connected to a terrorist would not be able to get food stamps. Like LaVoy Finicum's adult children, since there is a connection, even if they don't believe in If they lived in Maine, and this bill was law, they would have to make sure they kept a good job for the rest of their lives, or not get any benefits.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
21. So Poliquin's not accepting his Congressional pay?
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jan 2016

He is after all a member of the LePage domestic terror squad.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
22. this putz needs a hobby other than being a fear mongering simpleton
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 12:58 PM
Jan 2016

What has happened to Maine ?

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
26. He will tell his constituents he fought to stop terrorists from funding terrorism with food stamps.
Thu Jan 28, 2016, 03:17 PM
Jan 2016

and fixed a problem that does not exist.

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