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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 08:13 PM Feb 2016

Detroit woman couldn't get inept 911 operator to send a cop to her house while an armed man was on h

Source: Nydaily

Detroit woman phoned 911 and got a not-so-smooth operator.

Angie Butler said she couldn't get a clueless 911 operator wouldn’t send a cop to her home while an armed man stood on her porch.

The Michigan mom got a knock on her door at 2:30 a.m. Thursday night by a man with a gun, claiming to be a cop.

“He’s out here saying he’s the police and he’s wearing an orange jumpsuit, like a prison jumpsuit,” Butler told local network ClickOn Detroit.

But, the plea for help fell on deaf ears.


“So I call 911 and say, ‘I’ve got a guy out here saying he’s a cop at my door with a gun, a big gun,’ and she’s like, ‘Do you want to make a report?’” Butler said.

“A report?” the stunned woman responded.

“I want someone to come out here.”

No cop ever came to the terrified mother’s home while the menacing man stood on her porch as she and her son looked out from an upstairs window.

Instead, she resorted to calling a friend who worked at the nearby Ecorse Police Department and got one of their squad cars to drive through her neighborhood.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/inept-detroit-911-operator-didn-send-woman-house-article-1.2538565

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yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
2. I saw that and thought...
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 10:03 PM
Feb 2016

Who wrote that? The English is terrible? They don't have people who check that kinda thing? geeze,no wonder our News sucks.

liberalhistorian

(20,816 posts)
3. WTF kind of 9/11 operator
Sat Feb 20, 2016, 11:05 PM
Feb 2016

asks "do you want to make a report?" when someone is screaming that there's a man with a big gun on her porch in the middle of the fucking night? It was probably the woman's saying that the guy claimed to be a cop that threw the idiot operator, who likely couldn't tell the difference between "claimed to be a cop" and "is a cop". Fucking idiot.

I remember the case a few years ago when a toddler kept calling to try to get help for his unconscious mother, who'd collapsed in front of him, and the operator kept yelling at him to quit playing around on the phone and hang up. Finally when he called again, the operator yelled that she was going to have his mother charged with making false reports. A supervisor got involved and sent someone out there finally. The operator was rightfully fired, but only after a public outcry, since she was at first only suspended.

 

trillion

(1,859 posts)
5. It's systematic. You can bet this woman is a minority and lives in a neighborhood the police
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 07:16 AM
Feb 2016

intentionally don't drive through. It doesn't have to be a high crime area either for this circumstance to happen.

 

Old Union Guy

(738 posts)
10. A minority and lives in a neighborhood the police intentionally don't drive through? Of course.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 12:02 PM
Feb 2016

It's Detroit. That all there is.

24601

(3,959 posts)
7. And even if they are close, in 2005, the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 that the police do not have a
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:20 AM
Feb 2016

constitutional duty to protect a person from harm, even when the person has a restraining order from the courts.

Here's the full opinion.

http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/04pdf/04-278.pdf

A lot of people will be mad at the Court. It may be even better that they clarified where we really stand with regard to relying on the police. With that knowledge, we can make more informed choices with respect to protecting ourselves.

I have a rifle and a handgun but can be loaded with 10+ rounds are and semi-automatic, meaning that you fire one round with one trigger pull regardless of how long you hold the trigger down. I neither carry nor hunt. When going to the range, they are transported unloaded in my trunk. I'm trained and my pistol experience includes NCAA competition in college - my shooting has been for recreation but I'm also prepared to defend our home and family.

At home, they are secured and unloaded, but I can access them in less than a minute and load the pistol by inserting a magazine and releasing the slide. I could not load the rifle, a .22 suitable for varmints, quickly and wouldn't not store it loaded. There is no legal requirement for me to handle them this way - it's just how I was trained, including presuming a gun is loaded even when I "know" it isn't and to never point it until I'm prepared to fire.

It's very likely that I'd have a high likelihood be being able to shoot an intruder in the led. But If I'm in the position of defending, I'm shooting for center of mass (torso) because the objective is to stop the individual, and that has the highest probability if success, especially since my pistol is a 9mm which isn't nearly effective as a .45 with knock-down energy.

Do I need them? The question is irrelevant since we are talking about settled law on a Constitutional right. My need has to be proved no more than my need to speak, assemble peacefully, worship or for my home, papers and effects to be free from an unreasonable government search.

ileus

(15,396 posts)
9. I know a woman that's been waiting 17 years for the cops to show up.
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

after a 911 call for a domestic attack.



Needless to say she no longer subscribes to the "victim first" attitude.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
11. Let's just remember that for every numskull 911 dispatcher,
Sun Feb 21, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

there are 1000's of 911 calls that are handled coolly, professionally, and efficiently. Several years I had a cardiac event where I needed an ambulance. I was semi-conscious, but was aware that my wife was calling 911. While she was still on the phone with the 911 dispatcher, describing my condition, I heard the siren of the ambulance start up. (We lived about 2.5 miles from the fire station.)

In the case described in the OP, the 911 operator absolutely needs to be fired. Just remember that the 911 system works well the vast majority of the time.

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