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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:21 PM Mar 2016

Cruz and Sanders set for big night as Trump's lead appears to weaken

Source: The Guardian

The Vermont senator hoped that by showing there is still passionate support for him in states so far from his New England stronghold, he can regather momentum for bigger battles in states like Michigan and Ohio.

“We’re in an intense stretch of the campaign where success for Bernie means the political and media establishment must take note,” said campaign manager Jeff Weaver, in an email to supporters on Saturday. <snip>

With his 50.7%-24.4% victory over Trump in Kansas, Cruz became the first Republican candidate to win 50% of the vote in any state. He also celebrated an unofficial but symbolic win on Saturday in a straw poll among activists at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Washington.

“By any measure, Kansas, CPAC and Maine are all very different sets of voters and I think what it represents is a Republican party coalescing against Donald Trump,” said the Texas senator in a press conference in Idaho, where he was campaigning.

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/05/donald-trump-ted-cruz-bernie-sanders-super-saturday-primary-results

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Cruz and Sanders set for big night as Trump's lead appears to weaken (Original Post) tomm2thumbs Mar 2016 OP
BERNIE! JoeOtterbein Mar 2016 #1
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Herman4747 Mar 2016 #2
^^ THIS. ^^ Qutzupalotl Mar 2016 #4
Yeah, I worry more about Cruz or Rubio, being that... Beartracks Mar 2016 #9
Hogwash, "General Election" polls this far out with Darb Mar 2016 #16
Good for Bernie! ( Count Chocula's CPAC win is nothing big. ) TheCowsCameHome Mar 2016 #3
Showtime, Go Bernie Go! appalachiablue Mar 2016 #5
Wha.....? Beartracks Mar 2016 #10
There's more, all in good fun. The Scateboarder is a favorite. appalachiablue Mar 2016 #12
Lol! The Sanders supporters come up with the best stuff!! riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #17
Guardian noretreatnosurrender Mar 2016 #6
It will be best for Cruz and Sanders houston16revival Mar 2016 #7
His wins in two small homogeneous states won't equal Clinton's big win in a diverse, larger state. George II Mar 2016 #8
I don't like Cruz, but I don't like Trump worse. I know Cruz is bad but Trump is an all out Facist. Cavallo Mar 2016 #11
You might want to look into Cruz a little carefully. EL34x4 Mar 2016 #14
You're right, I don't know enough about Cruz. Cavallo Mar 2016 #19
60 GOP Defense and Security Leaders Signed Anti-Trump Letter houston16revival Mar 2016 #13
Indeed, Trump doesn't seem to be a huge fan... EL34x4 Mar 2016 #15
I think its too late to take out Trump. The Rethugs should have coalesced months ago riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #18
 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
2. I've said it before, I'll say it again:
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:27 PM
Mar 2016

You can't just be hoping that the Republicans choose Trump, believing that she could beat Trump. There's still a LOT of delegates left to be chosen, AND TRUMP COULD SERIOUSLY MELT DOWN.

From Real Clear Politics Matchups:

General Election: Cruz vs. Clinton
RCP Average 2/10 - 2/27 -- -- 46.5 45.0 Cruz +1.5
CNN/ORC 2/24 - 2/27 920 RV 3.0 49 48 Cruz +1
FOX News 2/15 - 2/17 1031 RV 3.0 46 45 Cruz +1
Quinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 1342 RV 2.7 46 43 Cruz +3
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 45 44 Cruz +1

The SAFEST BET IS ON BERNIE!

General Election: Cruz vs. Sanders
Poll Date Sample MoE
Sanders (D)
Cruz (R)
Spread
RCP Average 2/10 - 2/27 -- -- 50.0 40.3 Sanders +9.7
CNN/ORC 2/24 - 2/27 920 RV 3.0 57 40 Sanders +17
Quinnipiac 2/10 - 2/15 1342 RV 2.7 49 39 Sanders +10
USA Today/Suffolk 2/11 - 2/15 1000 LV 3.0 44 42 Sanders +2

Of course, too, Bernie polls better against Trump than does Hillary

Beartracks

(12,795 posts)
9. Yeah, I worry more about Cruz or Rubio, being that...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 04:29 AM
Mar 2016

... they're considered more "normal" -- and by that, I mean within the usual batshit realm of typical Republican candidates.

====================

 

Darb

(2,807 posts)
16. Hogwash, "General Election" polls this far out with
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:47 AM
Mar 2016

no actual matchup is tea leaf reading.

Hillary will win the nom and will be elected handily regardless of which kook they put forth.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
17. Lol! The Sanders supporters come up with the best stuff!!
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

Have you seen the Saturday Night Fever one? Its great too.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
6. Guardian
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016
In an echo of his performance on Super Tuesday, however, Sanders faced an uphill battle in Louisiana, particularly with African American voters. With 51 delegates, Clinton’s southern stronghold gave her almost as much weight in the wider race as Nebraska and Kansas combined.

Before Saturday’s voting, Sanders was already 198 delegates behind Clinton, with an estimated 410 pledged delegates to her 608.

The Vermont senator hoped that by showing there is still passionate support for him in states so far from his New England stronghold, he can regather momentum for bigger battles in states like Michigan and Ohio.

“We’re in an intense stretch of the campaign where success for Bernie means the political and media establishment must take note,” said campaign manager Jeff Weaver, in an email to supporters on Saturday.


How refreshing not to the see the superdelegates lumped in with the elected delegates.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
7. It will be best for Cruz and Sanders
Sat Mar 5, 2016, 11:05 PM
Mar 2016

to climb a wall of worry and erode the frontrunners

America is seeking new leadership

The 1970s and the 1990s are over a long time ago

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
14. You might want to look into Cruz a little carefully.
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:32 AM
Mar 2016

For all his bluster about building a wall and a moratorium on Muslim immigration (ideas that enjoy significant popular support, by the way) Trump is actually to the left of Hillary on many issues.

Senator Cruz, on the other hand, represents the slimiest faction of far-right Republican theocrats, a man who truly believes he was chosen by God to be the next President of the United States.

God help us if Cruz is elected. Give President Cruz a Republican congress and not even God Himself will be able to save us. Any DUer who believes Cruz would be preferable to Trump really ought to brush up. President-elect Rafael Eduardo Cruz is the absolute worst case scenario for November.

Cavallo

(348 posts)
19. You're right, I don't know enough about Cruz.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:56 AM
Mar 2016

Last edited Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:36 AM - Edit history (1)

I didn't even know he was a Theocrat! Thank you for this post.

houston16revival

(953 posts)
13. 60 GOP Defense and Security Leaders Signed Anti-Trump Letter
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 09:52 AM
Mar 2016

Donald, that's the military-industrial complex weighing in against you

Get out while you can

That's the only sane advice to offer

 

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)
15. Indeed, Trump doesn't seem to be a huge fan...
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 10:43 AM
Mar 2016

...of those treasury-draining, MIC-enriching, PNAC-supported endless Middle Eastern adventures. Little wonder the neocons want to take him out. He's messing up their game.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
18. I think its too late to take out Trump. The Rethugs should have coalesced months ago
Sun Mar 6, 2016, 11:07 AM
Mar 2016

On a strategy to remove him. Now he's simply reached too many.

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