Michigan mayor says he was nearly kicked out of Dem debate

[w4rma]

Source: The Hill

“The sergeant-at-arms said, ‘The people that run this want you ejected, they don’t want you here,’” Fouts said.

When asked if it was Wasserman Schultz making the reques, Fouts said, “The security guy said, ‘Don’t say I said it.’”

Fouts, an Independent mayor who attended both the Republican and Democratic debates in his home state, commented on the noticeable differences between the two events.

“The Democratic debate is totally controlled by Hillarys [sic] good friend DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz,” Fouts wrote in a Facebook post. “No commentary is allowed by the audience. Particularly if you are cheering Bernie Sanders. Persons who do not adhere to Hillarys [sic] rules are threatened with expulsion.”

He also said the Democratic Party’s debate process “borders on totalitarian control” and in an interview on Monday, he said Wasserman Schultz should resign.

This is not the first time fellow Democrats have been publicly critical of Wasserman Schultz and how she’s handled the party’s debates. Critics have accused the DNC chairwoman of limiting the number of debates in order to aid Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/272157-michigan-mayor-says-he-was-nearly-kicked-out-of-dem

[H2O Man]

1. Recommended.

Thanks for this.

[Kelvin Mace]

2. HRC's BFF

Again, good thing she has all the votes she needs to win.

[Divernan]

30. I thought HRC's BFF was highly overpaid Huma Abedin.

Then there's Hillary's highly overpaid daughter - paid $600,000 a year by NBC for a part-time broadcasting job for which she had zero professional training or experience.

It's so HARD for Clinton supporters to throw stones, what with being in so many glass houses and all.

The one HRC supporter with the chutzpah to show up in this thread (post 10) whines about the mayor's long time assistant getting a "huge pay raise". But the link included refers only to a $5,000 pay raise.

OMG! $5,000. That obviously did not bother the voters of Warrendale, who elected him to hismost recent term with EIGHT FIVE PERCENT OF THE VOTE! Neither Huma nor Chelsea would cross the street for a lousy $5,000.

[PatrickforO]

39. LOL. Well, Chelsea's on record as not caring about money at all...

Which I thought was hilarious because she's always had more than enough.

I've often thought how very beneficial it would be to our entire society if we could take the top 1% and let them be working poor for a year. They can be nickel and dimed, have rationed or nonexistent healthcare, be uncertain of housing and transportation and live in constant fear of getting sick or having some other problem that causes them to lose their shitty job. I wonder if any of them would know what to do if they did not have the money to pay bills one month.

[Kelvin Mace]

54. Imagine what we could do just with the $5 million

spent on her wedding?

[anothergreenbus]

56. Affluenza, its catching.

[UpInArms]

63. I would even loan them my 1994 Subaru Justy

3 cylinder micro car

but they better take care of it ....

it needs to last me a few more years

[Kelvin Mace]

53. Well, say what you will about HRC,

unlike Ted Cruz, she has more than one friend.

[Divernan]

55. Fairweather friends- if she loses, it'll be just her & Bill, alone at last!

Can't you see the two of them snuggled up by a cozy fireside, or walking hand in hand on a beach. Those wacky lovebirds!

Updating their enemies list to hand down to Chelsea

[Kelvin Mace]

59. Well, there are worse ways to retire

than whiling away the days spending $200 million.

[HassleCat]

3. It's the way to win.

Control the message by controlling the event and the people who attend the event.

[w4rma]

4. Here is a version of the article with more detailed information about what happened.

Fouts was outraged by the evening. He called for Wasserman Schultz to step down in the Monday interview. After the conversation with security, Fouts said he returned to his seat and took extra care to be quiet.

“I was even careful when I clapped,” he said. “I’m sorry that I offended her with my enthusiasm.”

Clashes between the Sanders campaign and its supporters and the DNC have been routine throughout the primary. When the debate calendar was first announced, Sanders supporters were among those who shouted down Wasserman Schultz during a speech at the New Hampshire Democratic state convention. When the DNC suspended Sanders campaign access to the party’s online voter file following a break of Clinton data by Sanders campaign aides, the Sanders campaign filed a lawsuit and accused Wasserman Schultz of doing Clinton’s bidding.

Top DNC officials, including the chair, have pledged neutrality throughout the primary process, saying that the party takes no sides.

Fouts said he didn’t think the quiet rule at the Democratic debate was very democratic. He prefers things a little looser, if not as loose as the Republicans do it.

“Frankly I was appalled by what I saw and what happened,” he said.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/evanmcsan/michigan-mayor-security-threatened-to-kick-me-out-of-debate#.gwJPVDApPp

[peace13]

51. 'As loose as the Republicans'?

As long as you are white and slightly off of your nut they are happy for bafoonery. Not so white and you can expect to be shown the door.

[PatrynXX]

5. So is it the HLC Party or the DWS Party

Because it's no longer the Democratic Party

[ebayfool]

19. HC party. Wassermann is just an underling enforcer.

Or toady. Both fit.

[zentrum]

22. Well said. nt

[anothergreenbus]

57. It barely looks like our Party.

[tomm2thumbs]

6. With the ENTIRE Democratic establishment and media against Bernie, and yet he continues to win

That is enormous. The American people are starting to see through this, but imagine how difficult it is to literally have 99% of the forces in power doing everything they can to limit your success, and yet you are still making huge strides. That is the power of truth!

TRUTH WINS!

[desmiller]

7. ^^^booyah

[madokie]

50. Thats why we'll win

[SoapBox]

8. And this is as we have believed, all the way back to the first debate.

The audiences being totally stacked for Camp Weathervane.

On the side, the CBS Nightly News...blah, blah, blah...and then they showed a chart with the Hill's vs. Bernie's delegate count...yup, there it was in parenthesis at the top of their chart, includes super delagates. And we also now know that is making it appear that the count is like a landslide for her.

They also blathered about how Bernie was attacking her over NAFTA...Bernie says about 850,000 jobs lost BUT CBS had an "expert" (unnamed of course) that was quoted...job losses were very negligible.



I call bullshit on that.

[Divernan]

31. CBS, who paid Chelsea $600,000 per year for part time reporting.

[PatrickforO]

40. WHAT????????????????????????

This nation did in fact lose around 850K jobs to NAFTA - the good kind, ones that have benefits and actually offer some reasonable economic security, ones you can raise a family on.

These jobs have been replaced by lower wage service positions that offer little in the way of benefits and nothing in the way of economic security.

They need to trot out this 'expert,' who can then be trashed on the internet by people who actually know.

[SDJay]

9. This is Fucking Despicable...

and it is NOT democracy. Ugh.

Is it THAT far from drumpf tossing out brown people? If you're not here to cheer me, you're fucking out of here.

Holy crap.

[still_one]

10. This the same mayor who compared atheists to nazis and the KKK

http://www.alternet.org/belief/michigan-mayor-who-compared-atheists-nazis-kkk-now-handing-out-god-we-trust-posters

Of course the reason why he wants to divert attention could be this also:

"Warren Mayor Jim Fouts made a national TV appearance last night on CNN at the Democratic debate. Notably, he walked in late with his young female secretary. Fouts has denied a dating relationship with his secretary and denied that her huge pay raises had anything to do with their personal relationship. Fouts and his "date" scored premium seats at the debate after his high-profile endorsement of socialist Bernie Sanders."

https://www.facebook.com/Warren-Residents-for-Accountable-Government-304399108842/

Not sure what party he identifies with now, but has been a republican

[Unknown Beatle]

12. Way to deflect.

It's about DWS and her BFF Hillary and the way she runs the DNC, but you had to make it about the mayor.

The truth is that DWS has been a disaster for the DNC. It's obvious to everyone except Hillary supporters that the debates are fixed to help Clinton.

[litlbilly]

21. very RW the way they do that isnt it. Just try and deflect whats going on. easy to see thru

[Wibly]

20. When all else fails

And a reasonable explanation won't work, resort to total smear tactics.
Its the Clinton way!

[Divernan]

25. Mayor Fouts elected to 3rd term with 85 percent of vote.

HEADLINE: Warren Mayor James Fouts wins third term
The Detroit News 11:15 p.m. EST November 3, 2015
And voters elected Fouts with 85 percent of the vote compared to challenger Karen Spranger’s 15 percent, according to unofficial results.

Fouts has held the post for two, four-year terms in the state’s third-largest city. Spranger had filed an unsuccessful recall petition against Fouts in 2014. This would be Fouts’ third and final four-year term under Warren’s term limits. City voters also selected six council members, a clerk and treasurer.

Carey Gordon made the trip Tuesday to the Fitzgerald Recreation Center specifically to support Fouts. Gordon said he appreciates Fouts’ efforts to support General Motors’ Warren Technical Center.

“For as long as he’s been there, he’s done a good job,” Gordon said of Fouts.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/elections/macomb-county/2015/11/03/macomb-county-local-elections/75130672/

[Divernan]

26. Warren voters to consider Extending Mayoral Term Limits

WARREN (WWJ/AP) – Residents of the Detroit suburb of Warren will be asked to vote in August to approve extending mayoral term limits to let someone serve up to 20 years in the post.

The proposal would change the limit from a maximum of three, 4-year terms to five, 4-year terms. If approved by voters, the change would cover Mayor Jim Fouts, who was re-elected in November for a third 4-year term.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2016/03/02/warren-voters-to-consider-extending-mayoral-term-limits/

[Divernan]

27. He's been a Democrat since 1978; THAT'S 38 YEARS!

He "has been a Republican" - Oh, just like Hillary!

Fouts, James R. (b. 1942) — of Warren, Macomb County, Mich. Born in Hazel Park, Oakland County, Mich., August 8, 1942. School teacher; candidate for Michigan state house of representatives 70th District, 1976 (Republican), 1978 (Democratic primary); mayor of Warren, Mich., 2007-. Still living as of 2014.

http://politicalgraveyard.com/bio/fouch-fowle.html#FOUTS

[still_one]

36. That's interesting, because the OP says he is an independent

[Divernan]

37. THen why did you post you didn't know what party he was in?

Not sure what party he identifies with now, but has been a republican

And your link to the gossip column was particularly pathetic. Charges that the unmarried mayor has a girl friend, or is dating someone who works for him? Duh! I emphasize HE is unmarried. Not like some world famous serial adulterers in the news for the last 3 decades.

[etherealtruth]

44. You can't possible be from around here

No progressive or anyone claiming to be left of center would consider defending this lunatic.

He is Donald Trump at the local level .... i am astounded to see all of the defense of him

[Divernan]

45. He got reelected with 85% of the vote!

You want to label 85% of the voters from "around here" as lunatics?

No, I'm not from Warrendale, but I'll go with the 85%, as well as multiple endorsements from the Detroit Free Press.

I get it that there is a small minority who hate him. You just keep hanging with those 15%. I see that "complete loon" is the phrase his haters have agreed to use, as per post 38.

On edit: correction. It's Warren, not Warrendale.

[etherealtruth]

48. Yes I do ... this is the home of the Reagan "Democrat"

.... and Warren was ground zero. The city has a LONG history of horrible racial politics and Fouts tapped into it and has grown strong as the city went from 98-99% white to approximately 80% white.

Your post really indicates (by the way the city is Warren NOT Warrendale) that you really don't have a clue.

It is odd that anyone that knows nothing (and your posts make it clear that you are totally ignorant about the politics of Michigan's third largest city) of the local politics would dig in on this.

[Divernan]

49. Michigan's Largest Independent African-American Blog/Podcast Endorses Bernie Sanders

Well, apparently, politics does indeed make strange bedfellows, and Bernie has a strong, broad appeal.
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I suggest you look at the big picture:
Clinton represents timid, token incrementalism at a time when the American people are in desperate need of bold transformational change.

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[etherealtruth]

52. WTF does this have to do with lauding Fouts? You clearly have no idea who I am voting for today

Your posts have been defending a local politician that you clearly have no knowledge of

Fouts is not someone I will align myself with .... no liberal or progressive would

[SpartanDem]

38. So the guy is a complete loon

anybody who lives around here can tell you that much. He may right about DWS but some friends you just don't want.

[etherealtruth]

43. Ah, sanity in this thread .....

I missed your post initially as it was difficult to sift through the adulation of Fouts in this thread.

Fouts is OK as long as you are fine with racism, bigotry, corruption and dishonesty (I liken him to Trump) in office (the City of Warren has a long history of embracing the aforementioned).

With Fouts, the incident described may or may not have happened .... he is not someone any liberal wants to align themselves with

[Divernan]

28. Mayor Fouts' crackdown on blight seen as model for other cities (Detroit Free Press)

Christina Hall (May 16, 2013). "Warren's crackdown on blight seen as model for other communities". Detroit Free Press. Retrieved 2 February 2014.

[Divernan]

29. Detroit Free Presss: Mayor Fouts led city well, deserves re-election.

"Editorial: Warren Mayor Fouts has led city well, deserves re-election". Detroit Free Press. October 28, 2011. Retrieved 2 February 2014.

[etherealtruth]

42. I liken him to Donald Trump

He has the same kind of appeal (sadly). No one posting in this thread appears to have a clue about Jim Fouts (pertinent in this thread is his tendency to play fast and loose with the truth), the City of Warren politics, Macomb County or Michigan if they did there is no way anyone would post this or post responses lauding him ....oh yeah, i live here.

[cprise]

11. Holy sh*t

K&R

[840high]

13. k/r

[Duval]

14. K&R! nt

[olddots]

15. this is going to get ugly

very ugly .

[glinda]

17. Hard to believe it is getting uglier.

[Pastiche423]

16. Thank you, Mayor Fouts

And future voters thank you, as well.

[Bubzer]

18. DWS is lower than pond scum. Added to the list

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280129486

[zentrum]

23. Thanks so much for this.

It's appalling.

[CoffeeCat]

24. What an embarrassing horror show Clinton and Wasserman-Schultz are!

They aren't even acting civilized. They are acting like crazed lunatics.

And for Debbie to go to such lengths to script and control every last detail of the debate, shows just how thin-skinned, fake and disingenuous Clinton is.

She can only participate in events that are outrageously tailored according to her specifications.

These people are bullies. How long before some important, wise heroes in the Democratic party DARE to stand up and finally say, Enough is enough."?

[Major Hogwash]

33. Yes, it is a horror show.

They've become the brown shirts.

[Divernan]

32. He's mayor of THIRD LARGEST CITY IN THE STATE OF MICHIGAN.

We're not talking about East Bumfuzz in the "upper peninsula".

Thank you so very much, Debbie! This man was reelected by 85% of Warrendale voters. You've just locked in the Warrendale vote for Bernie, you pathetic, power-crazed, egomaniacal twit!

[Gene Debs]

34. I'd like to see the Democrats of America bring a class-action suit against

Debbie Wasserman Schultz for crimes against democracy.

[hack89]

47. There is no such crime.

No laws were broken. She was wrong but there was no crime.

[IdaBriggs]

58. I assume the poster was using hyperbole and not being literal.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Hyperbole is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. In rhetoric, it is also sometimes known as auxesis (lit. "growth&quot . In poetry and oratory, it emphasizes, evokes strong feelings, and creates strong impressions. As a figure of speech, it is usually not meant to be taken literally.

It isn't always easy to identify (especially on the Internet) but "crimes against democracy" being charged against the Chair of the Democratic National Committee is intended to be ironic inference as well.

(Apologies if this is not taken gently - my son struggles with non-literal communication so I somethings over explain to compensate!)

[jwirr]

60. I have suggested that before. Who exactly owns the DNC?

[billhicks76]

35. Disgusting

I hope she gets banned from the party.

[etherealtruth]

41. I trust nothing associated with Jim Fouts, he is a lunatic

it is pretty obvious to me no one posting in this thread lives in the City of Warren. I do.

He is a lunatic and enjoys the exact kind of popularity Trump does for many of the same reasons. The lies this man tells (i don't know if this story is true or not) casts doubt on everything this man says (much like Trump)

I will be voting at 7:00 AM .... maybe I should stop by the prayer stations now at the Warren City Hall http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/articles/9072/dawsey_mayor_fouts_irrational_stance_against_atheists#.Vt6tZfkrLIU


I am not deflecting at all .... knowing this ass .... I know that he has told great "whoppers" before to gain statewide and national attention .... and have no doubt he would do so again. I undestand that by posting this you are trying to make a point .... the point falls flat on those that know Fouts

[left-of-center2012]

46. Everyone is expected to shut up and fall in line

Drink the Kool-Aid, dammit!

[EndElectoral]

64. Brought to heel.

[Gregorian]

61. Transparent democracy.

You know it was Bernie. He's so ambitious. All he wants is to have the Lincoln bedroom.

[Friend or Foe]

62. People with Money will Pay people who want money a certain amount

Our taxation system continues to be completely out of whack. If Goldman Sachs wants to pay HRC $500k per speech, so that she nets $250k, then what HRC wants is $250K. Raise the tax rate to 75% and Goldman Sachs will still pay HRC $1 million and she will net..............Wait for it........................$250K.

The same goes for Chelsea, or any other political animal.

We need to raise the taxation rates on income barely earned. Only then will we come to understand the benefit of an earned dollar.

[WillyT]

65. K & R !!!