Bundy refuses in court to recognize US authority in Nevada

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Bundy refuses in court to recognize US authority in Nevada

Ken Ritter, Associated Press

Updated 7:37 pm, Thursday, March 10, 2016

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Jailed Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy refused Thursday to acknowledge federal authority and declined to enter a plea to federal charges that he led an armed standoff against a round-up of cattle two years ago.

After several minutes of confusion about whether Bundy had a lawyer, U.S. Magistrate Judge Carl Hoffman entered a not guilty plea on Bundy's behalf and scheduled a detention hearing March 17.

Arguments then will focus on whether the 69-year-old Bundy should remain in custody pending trial on 16 charges, including conspiracy, assault and threatening a federal officer, obstruction and firearms offenses.

. . .

"I make no plea before this court," Bundy said, standing in a courtroom full of family members, friends, media, court officials and U.S. marshals.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/texas/article/Cliven-Bundy-court-appearance-to-draw-6881276.php

[rpannier]

1. Cuz that always works so well

The guy is delusional
Perfect example of the modern Republican

[elljay]

7. This kind of guy

has been around for a while. I used to be a prosecutor and we occasionally had defendants who filed pleadings from the Posse Comitatus (remember them?) brief bank. They refused to recognized the U.S., loved to cite the Magna Carta and were generally ridiculous but scary. Bundy and his followers are descendants of the Posse and similar groups and there are tens of thousands of others throughout the U.S. according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. This is the true terrorism problem that we need to address but just don't because they are white and Christian.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_%28organization%29

[pandr32]

19. Thanks for the info and link

Interesting!

[geomon666]

2. Enjoy the big house Cliven

On Uncle Sam's dime of course.

[longship]

3. Dum-de-Dum-DUMB!!

Just the facts, ma'am!

You are oh so busted!

[safeinOhio]

4. In that case, no soup

Or bail for you.

[csziggy]

5. He needs to read the Constitution of the State of Nevada

Sec: 2.  Purpose of government; paramount allegiance to United States.  All political power is inherent in the people[.] Government is instituted for the protection, security and benefit of the people; and they have the right to alter or reform the same whenever the public good may require it. But the Paramount Allegiance of every citizen is due to the Federal Government in the exercise of all its Constitutional powers as the same have been or may be defined by the Supreme Court of the United States; and no power exists in the people of this or any other State of the Federal Union to dissolve their connection therewith or perform any act tending to impair[,] subvert, or resist the Supreme Authority of the government of the United States. The Constitution of the United States confers full power on the Federal Government to maintain and Perpetuate its existance [existence], and whensoever any portion of the States, or people thereof attempt to secede from the Federal Union, or forcibly resist the Execution of its laws, the Federal Government may, by warrant of the Constitution, employ armed force in compelling obedience to its Authority.
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/const/nvconst.html#Art1Sec2

[keylargo]

12. Thats alot of big words for...

these Bundy types. Anyway we can make it a pictorial like they use in kindergarten?

[randome]

16. Cliven's reaction to that would be an Adams Family Lurch-like grunt of disapproval & stupor.

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[dixiegrrrrl]

6. Reminds me of my 2 year old who played and seek by covering his eyes

totally convinced we could not see HIM.

When Cliven opens his eyes, the jails will still be there, plus they don't serve French Vanilla Creamer.

[cynzke]

21. Good Idea!!! Follow Bundy's Lead!

Throw him back in his cell and pretend he doesn't exist. Oh you want a trial now, better recognize the government. Until then you DON'T EXIST sitting in your cell. We can't see you, hear you. You are nothing.

[Major Hogwash]

8. "You're not the boss of me!"

He sounds like an 8-year old.

[Wolf Frankula]

9. Does he Recognize the Subsidies he Got All those Years?

If not, he should pay them back with interest.

Wolf

[ffr]

10. *** FLUSH ***

Bye-bye, Bundy!

[JohnnyRingo]

11. We'll see how that works out in prison

"I refuse to recognize the federal guard's authority, let me leave now" hahahaha

[Turbineguy]

13. Well,

the question a 69 year-old man needs to ask himself is: "How much of the time I have left do I want to spend in jail?"

[Kennah]

31. He appears to be answering, "All of it". n/t

[tanyev]

14. It really doesn't matter whether or not you recognize US authority, Cliven.

You're in jail either way.

[peacebird]

15. Didn't he already ask for a Public Defender? And yes, doesn't really matter if he believes or not

As long as he is in jail......

[Dale Neiburg]

26. To paraphrase Neal DeGrasse Tyson--

Prison works whether or not you believe in it.

[Frank Cannon]

17. I bet this guy talked back to his mother a lot growing up.

I'm guessing he has a real problem with anyone telling him what he can and can't do, period.

I'm sure his colleagues in the big house will appreciate that attitude.

[-none]

29. I think he will learn more better the first or second day or so.

There are men with real street creds in there, that have that problem too. I'm sure they will want to meet with him.
Growing up where he has, the biggest crowd he has ever seen was his own family.

[Coventina]

18. And yet, he and his followers LOVE to wave the Stars & Stripes.

Go figure......

[Kablooie]

20. He's using the Ayn Rand defense.

In Atlas Shrugged Hank Rearden, the superhero industrialist, refused to offer a plea and it broke the system. Part of the books climax.

[Lizzie Poppet]

23. Yep....thus demonstrating that Rand's plotlines were as realistic as her philosophy. (nm)

[Lizzie Poppet]

22. He can refuse to recognize that orange jumpsuit all he wants.

He's still gonna be wearin' it...for the rest of his life after that trial is over.

[alcibiades_mystery]

24. He doesn't need to recognize it

It will work on him regardless.

[cynzke]

25. Seems To Me....

Logic would follow if you don't recognize federal authority exists then neither does your citizenship and Constitutional rights exist. You can't have one without the other.

[yellowcanine]

27. Big deal. Lots of people refuse to enter pleas and the judge simply does it for you.

Cliven Bundy's ass still belongs to the warden regardless of his opinions on U.S. authority.

[liberal N proud]

28. No plea doesn't mean you can't be found gulity.

[Katashi_itto]

30. Go bundy! Never tell an idiot that they are have a bad idea.