Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:39 PM Mar 2016

North Korean Submarine 'Missing' Amid Tensions

Source: Sky News

A North Korean submarine has apparently gone missing, according to reports.

The vessel is believed to have suffered a failure during an exercise and is presumed to have sunk.

The US military is said to have been observing the submarine off North Korea's eastern coast earlier this week and American spy satellites were also later watching the navy search for it.

"The speculation is that it sank," an unidentified US official told the US Naval Institute's news website.

Read more: http://news.sky.com/story/1658602/north-korean-submarine-missing-amid-tensions

41 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
North Korean Submarine 'Missing' Amid Tensions (Original Post) muriel_volestrangler Mar 2016 OP
this could start a war ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2016 #1
I have it on Double Super-Secret Background.... Brother Buzz Mar 2016 #2
Kim, Jong Un is "Great Successor," not "Dear Leader." jmowreader Mar 2016 #24
Shows how much I know about North Korea Brother Buzz Mar 2016 #26
And here I thought it was "Pudgy Yet Sturdy Leader." johnfunk Mar 2016 #27
I was gonna say "Great Haircut Man" jmowreader Mar 2016 #28
Well I doubt it flew jberryhill Mar 2016 #3
Very funny, Hiull. Nitram Mar 2016 #11
Well I think the critical question jberryhill Mar 2016 #16
The US lost the Scorpion due too poor engineering. Nitram Mar 2016 #22
My bet is the propeller shaft seal jmowreader Mar 2016 #30
Or the induction valve on these old diesel/electrics.... EX500rider Mar 2016 #37
Or the periscope shaft seal, the fuel filler seal... jmowreader Mar 2016 #38
Reminds me of the scene from 'Hunt for the Red October' Land of Enchantment Mar 2016 #4
Great movie iandhr Mar 2016 #6
Somebody opened the screen door? longship Mar 2016 #5
"Hey, What does this button do?" Oneironaut Mar 2016 #15
Thanks, Needed the laugh.... Old Vet Mar 2016 #40
Ya, right, our peeps don't know what happened to it? Hydra Mar 2016 #7
One might suspect that jberryhill Mar 2016 #17
Let's hope it did sink, cause the idea it is sneaking around somewhere is discomforting dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #8
For stealth operation... jberryhill Mar 2016 #18
Black Krylon spray paint Codeine Mar 2016 #34
I bet we know exactly where we sank it. LS_Editor Mar 2016 #9
No need for us to sink it as long as we know where it is. Nitram Mar 2016 #12
Hunt for "빨간색 10월" ("Red October" in Korean) LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2016 #10
D/E boats are very quiet when submerged. oneshooter Mar 2016 #13
I'm just glad to see we have a close eye on their maneuvers. n/t Chemisse Mar 2016 #14
Causation elljay Mar 2016 #19
William Strannix resurrected? Plainsman1 Mar 2016 #20
"HOLD MY BEER AND WATCH THIS" was the last message received from the submarine Kaleva Mar 2016 #21
I found it! warrprayer Mar 2016 #23
LOL!!!!! good job.... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2016 #35
Maybe the Captain defected. Kingofalldems Mar 2016 #25
Thought you said "defecated" Kaleva Mar 2016 #29
I know North Korea seems like a big joke to us an ocean away Little_Wing Mar 2016 #31
Maybe we should be concerned it is not off our coast...can we track it? Pauldg47 Mar 2016 #32
Submarines that sink are not news GreydeeThos Mar 2016 #33
can the crew still be alive?, how many people 50-80? will anyone help NK? Sunlei Mar 2016 #36
Not likely, They dont play well with others.......... Old Vet Mar 2016 #41
How does a submarine sink? titaniumsalute Mar 2016 #39

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
28. I was gonna say "Great Haircut Man"
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:10 AM
Mar 2016

Because as we all know, telling Shithouse Rat Man there that his hair looks like they put a five-gallon bucket over his head and shaved around it with a hatchet is a good way to find yourself in front of a firing squad.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Well I doubt it flew
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 01:55 PM
Mar 2016

Fucking genius this speculation - it probably sunk.

Yeah, well, I doubt it got hit at a railway crossing somewhere.

Unless someone spots it in orbit or something, I guess it is safe to assume it is underwater somewhere, for some reason.

Nitram

(22,768 posts)
22. The US lost the Scorpion due too poor engineering.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:03 PM
Mar 2016

Occam's Razor would suggest the N Korean sub went down due to human error. The US would rather track a sub than sink it. You've been reading too many spy novels.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
30. My bet is the propeller shaft seal
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:19 AM
Mar 2016

If that breaks the water rushes into your boat and you sink REAL quick.

jmowreader

(50,530 posts)
38. Or the periscope shaft seal, the fuel filler seal...
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

Thing is, there are a LOT of holes in a submarine hull. If your maintenance is not done to perfection - considering the DPRK has a conscript navy, that's expecting a lot - shit fails, and shit cannot fail fifty meters down.

There are OTHER kinds of holes...the ones you get when you stick the second lieutenant who failed map reading in charge of the maneuvering watch, and he maneuvers you into a jagged rock.

Land of Enchantment

(1,217 posts)
4. Reminds me of the scene from 'Hunt for the Red October'
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:03 PM
Mar 2016

where the question is asked of the Russian ambassador, "Do you mean to tell me you've lost ANOTHER submarine? How can we be of assistance?"




Hydra

(14,459 posts)
7. Ya, right, our peeps don't know what happened to it?
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:01 PM
Mar 2016

They may have had nothing to do with it, but I bet they know the exact gps coordinate where it's located and probably what happened as well.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
17. One might suspect that
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:15 PM
Mar 2016

One might also suspect it would behoove us to make sure the Chinese know, along with appropriate evidence, just so there are no misunderstandings.

I doubt the North Koreans would acknowledge it missing.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
8. Let's hope it did sink, cause the idea it is sneaking around somewhere is discomforting
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:13 PM
Mar 2016

Dunno what stealth technologies they have....

oneshooter

(8,614 posts)
13. D/E boats are very quiet when submerged.
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 05:28 PM
Mar 2016

We know about where it was. It could of had an electrical problem, a ballest problem, or maybe a little of both. One of the worst scenarios I can think of would be a hull breech in the battery compartment, acid and seawater do NOT play well together.

elljay

(1,178 posts)
19. Causation
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 08:31 PM
Mar 2016

I don't know if anyone remembers the Cheonan sinking some years ago. A North Korean sub sank a South Korean boat, killing more than 40 sailors. The article is assuming that the N. Korean sub sank because of an accident. How the North Koreans will view this is a totally different matter. If I were the naval officer in charge, I think I'd rather tell Dear Leader that it was a South Korean surprise revenge attack rather than negligent maintenance of my sub. Death by antiaircraft missile cannot be pleasant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking

Little_Wing

(417 posts)
31. I know North Korea seems like a big joke to us an ocean away
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

But my son is currently deployed in South Korea and every story about his pathetic attempts at military relevancy no longer make me laugh. I hope he makes it back before that asshole crosses a line we can't laugh about.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
41. Not likely, They dont play well with others..........
Mon Mar 14, 2016, 06:24 AM
Mar 2016

And you can bet your ass South Korea knows whats up, North Korea cant fart without the south knowing. That's gotta be a terrible way to go out though.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»North Korean Submarine 'M...