SANDERS, CRUZ surging in ILLINOIS -- TRUMP IL campaign in disarray – UIC protest bounce
Source: politico
Good Monday morning, Illinois. With just a day to go before the election, the dynamics of both the Republican and Democratic presidential races are quickly changing. POLITICO reported late last night that the Donald Trump campaign sidelined its Illinois campaign director last week, amid complaints of lackluster organization. That has a new team scrambling to move voters to the polls just before the election.
At the same time, there are signs Ted Cruz could overtake Trump in Illinois. That may be why Cruz is planning five stops in Illinois today, including in Rockford, Glen Ellyn, Peoria, Decatur and Springfield. Hillary Clinton will visit the city this morning to talk economic opportunity. Bernie Sanders has a rally planned for the evening in Chicago.
The whole world was watching on Friday, when protesters, largely made up of University of Illinois at Chicago students, clashed with Donald Trump supporters in what has become a flashpoint in the presidential campaign. (Read: Trump Chicago rally postponed amid scenes of chaos. http://politi.co/1pCDRZE)
UIC rally bounce, anti-Emanuel ads -- The massive anti-Trump demonst
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Divernan
(15,480 posts)On the Democratic side, former President Bill Clinton visited Chicago-area African-American churches in support of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, as did several supporting congressmen. Her rival, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, added a late night Monday rally in Chicago to his pre-primary day schedule. http://trib.in/1QX3wTI
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SEEMS TO BE WORKING -- Bernie throws Rahm Emanuel under the bus, by Gabriel Debenedetti: If Bernie Sanders gets his way, Tuesdays Illinois primary will turn into a referendum on embattled Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel. The Vermont senators campaign has begun unleashing stinging attacks on the former Bill Clinton and Barack Obama White House aide who has become a lightning rod for criticism from African-Americans and progressives in his two terms in City Hall with the aim of painting him as a close political ally of Hillary Clinton. Top campaign surrogates have been dispatched to Chicago, and Sanders is running two separate television ads critical of Emanuel in an attempt to highlight Clintons connections with the mayor." http://politi.co/1V5uY70
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lunatica
(53,410 posts)The way he trashed Progressives when he was with Obama in the Whitehouse was disgusting. I'm glad he's getting a Progressive backlash. He deserves it as well as backlash from the Black community.
He just another self-serving narcissist.
Abouttime
(675 posts)I think the combination of the UIC protest and his campaign manager being charged with assaulting a female reporter have finally opened the stupid party's eyes.
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)However, he's the one who cut budgets in 1995 and more. He signed NAFTA which threw out manufacturing in Ohio. I guarantee if Kasick wins Ohio, he's the one they will support for nomination...big wig RNC I mean.
Cavallo
(348 posts)We don't know what Trump entails. If we take him at his word, I would say Trump will be worse than Cruz. And, I know Cruz is a christofascist. Trump is a fascist to everyone who doesn't agree with him.
I also think Cruz's sliminess is cold and calculating. Trump is knee jerk violent and not a bright man. Tough to decide between the two. I'll vote against outwardly violent first though.
elljay
(1,178 posts)Trump, like Rand Paul, actually has a few decent policy positions and we know that his politics are, shall we say, malleable. Cruz, on the other hand, is as rigid as can be and his positions are somewhere to the right of horrible. Even Jimmy Carter thinks Trump may be the least evil of the bunch. However, I'd greatly prefer it if we didn't have to prove this theory.
Cavallo
(348 posts)Trump being a wild card fascist and violent and then not knowing where he'd go with that, is what gets me. I mean he wants the families of terrorists killed even when they've done nothing. He wants roundups of all immigrants. The more I hear about Trump's father, the more disturbing I find that family. I do not trust Trump not to turn into Hitler. I don't actually trust Cruz not to either. It's just slimy Cruz isn't telling us he's going to and I don't believe Cruz could mobilize enough supporters to kill people in the streets, like Trump could.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)However not worth the risk. Cruz would be a nightmare. Hillary would have to win. Bernie would have to win.
elljay
(1,178 posts)that we are having this discussion at all. What I keep repeating to anyone who will listen is that Trump's followers will still be around even if he loses the election, and they will be angrier than ever. They're armed, they're violent, they're frustrated, and they are not only impervious to facts, they have bought the line that anyone who presents information that contradicts their opinions is an enemy. This doesn't end with Trump's or even the Republican's defeat in November. How does this end?
Cavallo
(348 posts)and right now he is giving them a sense of legitimacy.
He has re-invigorated the racist movement that had been on decline since the 60's. They are not just going to go away. I believe internet will help them stay with the movement this time.
Paper Roses
(7,473 posts)6chars
(3,967 posts)Cruz will push to ban abortion, gay marriage, and the usual crap only more so, but still within the framework of rule of law. Trump might start executing minorities and enemies. That's irreversible.
Cavallo
(348 posts)dinkytron
(568 posts)DhhD
(4,695 posts)New hire reinforces Cruz's gag of Dirty Tricks.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/107830795
After the Bush Presidency ended in 2009, the Methodist tried to keep the Bush's out of Dallas and his library off of Southern Methodist University. Bush did not return to his ranch in Crawford, Texas.
Now Neil Bush joins the Cruz Team after the Keating Five and the Colorado Savings and Loan disasters of the 19080s. JEB PAC money moving to Cruz.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/107830778
ToxMarz
(2,166 posts)WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)Glimmer of Hope
(5,823 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)other candidates drop out
attacking a female reporter is no big deal for them- even admirable
the tea party talk radio base won't be discouraged until they find the cemetery in trumps back yard, and then only if they are young boys.
limabugh spent the whole morning excusing him and attacking the protestors as paid bernie hillary dem BLM and move-on goons, etc., working on getting the cops and trump supporters to attack protestors
about the only major talk radio god not on trump's side is glen beck- who loves cruz, and they control the most active part of the republican base- they'll just get more and more spittle-flecked-
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)Trump is much more malleable than Cruz. Cruz is a true believer.
From what I understand, Trump is pulling a Richard Nixon and talking tough with the intention of being a moderate (which Nixon was, for those not old enough to remember).
So, as a liberal, I can't say I am excited about this.
Cruz is like a smart version of Reagan. With a Republican Senate/House he could destroy 80 years of progress.
agnostic102
(198 posts)The problem for cruz is Florida Ohio and North carolina seems to be out of the picture for him (although he does over shoot hes polls sometime)
If there is 5 states voting tomorrow you cant just take 3 out of the picture and have a good day. He does seem to do well in mid western states like iowa oklahoma idaho type states.. so i think he has a decent chance in MO and IL. The way the election is going with no super clear cutt winners. Trump probably wins florida and NC.. kasich in ohio and cruz in Il and MO.. but well see a lot has transpired over the weekend and anything can happen. Cruz was bleeding twitter and facebook users for what he said about the protest and seemingly partially blaming trump which pissed off some voters who apparently were considering cruz. How this translates to votes tomorrow who knows.
NOW BERNIE! i vote in California and im undecided. My heart is with bernie but my head is with hillary. I hate all these high polls for hillary because a part of always roots for the underdog. I know i said i was undecided but i was very happy with the michigan results. I feel like the media keeps trying to write off bernie as someone who has no chance and its just not fair. So im glad hes making this much more competitive. I really hope that by the time California comes ill have been decided who to vote for.
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)it should be fairly well decided and you will know what to do. Welcome to DU btw
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,582 posts)All they use CA for is money. By the time we get to vote it's all but decided. We're one of the biggest states and we don't get a viable say in who the nominee is. I'm hoping Bernie is able to hang in there and keeps HRC from getting 50%+1 of the delegates before the convention.
Shit.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We are left to the last because we are the future and will tilt the equation that calculates based on delegates to the left.
It's a calculation that we have a right to be a part of.
This primary system puts a great number of the most conservative, Southern states first giving Americans and the rest of the world the impression that we are a far more conservative country than we are.
This system has to change.
California should be one of the three first states to hold a primary. And we could do that if we had public funding only of election ads.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)No other reason. I do think it could be pushed up some though, but never first 3 because only rich would stand a chance.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)They don't end until June 7, which is three months from now. And they only started one month ago. After tomorrow twenty-three states will have voted. That's just under half. We are a long way from the tail end of this.
shireen
(8,333 posts)It will be hard for Bernie to work with Congress, and I don't know how much of his agenda is doable with all those Republicans, at least in the first few years.
Change takes time, and it need to built up from the grassroots. At least that's what people have said for years. But it's never really worked because everyday people are disillusioned and exhausted by the system.
However, this could change if we have a powerful principled leader who uses his position to build a massive public movement for social and economic justice. People need to have hope.They need to be empowered to make politics a force for good. They need to be energized to become the "change" that will propagate up the political system. It will take time, but it can be done.
Bernie has amassed an astoundingly large following, considering that most people had never heard of him a few months ago. It's especially wonderful to see so many young people joining his movement. That gives me, a 51+ year old woman, a great deal of hope for future generations.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)election this cycle.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)Cavallo
(348 posts)President.
I don't get why so many think they will work with Hillary. They hate her. It's a seething hate they started during Clintons presidency and solidified oh her first run for president.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)all along. He has been all too willing to cooperate and give in, and look at how they have rejected his approaches to them.
It is, in part, because I have seen how the Republicans have been so unwilling to compromise in the slightest that I support Bernie so strongly.
We need a strong Democratic president to draw voters to the polls, someone who delineates clearly why voters need to vote and why voter participation between elections is so important.
Hillary has clearly signaled that she will not draw in voter participation or use the internet to get voter opinion to legislators. Bernie has signaled that he wants a movement of active voters to help him get things done in D.C.
I'm for Bernie and strongly against Hillary and it is partly because of the way the Republicans, the whole Limbaugh crowd, have treated Obama.
Obama is such a good man, and to see him treated like dirt by the Republicans has made me feel that we really need Sanders in the White House to change the way the Republicans behave.
Denying climate change?????
Giving tax breaks to the rich when it is the poor and the middle class who have lost economic ground???? Wanting to reduce women's rights?????? Wanting health care to be only for those who can afford to pay for it?????
DhhD
(4,695 posts)If FDR would have called them out by name, the Republicans of the 1938 would not have been elected by enough numbers, to take back control of Congress in Jan 1939.
Voting for Bernie means voting for the Down Ticket Democrats. Sanders will start calling out Republicans the day after he wins the D-Nomination. We are in a Revolution.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)bleedinglib
(212 posts)I haft to agree with you Shireen !! I went to A Bernie Rally Sat. nite in Springfield Missour-a & I was astonished by the number of young(17 to 25) yr olds !! The building held about 11,ooo & they were lined up around the building ( I guess about 3 to 4 thousand ) that couldn't get in !! They had to stand in line for about 8 to 10 hrs !! I left about 8:30 & I was amazed they didn't know they couldn't get in , but they persevered !!
The next morn a friend called me & told me that Bernie Had Security set up a podium in front of the building & Bernie came out & spoke with them for about 40 min. What an amazing man !!!
If Bernie isn't elected POTUS, A great injustice will be done. I'm 71 & I'm still fired up from watching & listening to those future Democrats. Young people are sick of the rite-wing BS & they are going to correct that
BERNbabyBERN
shireen
(8,333 posts)Thanks so much ... He really appreciates his supporters.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Trump is in trouble. The lunatic has been revealed. Thank goodness!
Iggo
(47,549 posts)WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)Nobody's immune.
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)we will be able to shove them back in the closet.
eggplant
(3,911 posts)Cavallo
(348 posts)jillan
(39,451 posts)Not only for the cover-up of the murder of Laquan but he took money out of the public schools and used it for his cronies to privatize schools.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/07/rahm-emanuel-chicago-education-reform/397673/
Rahm is NOT the person you want to be aligned with in Chicago.
And if you cannot win Chicago, how can you win the state?
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)it's a tense time.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)OK, fine, let's not quibble about Portland, Maine and Austin, TX. Bernie lost Boston and Detroit by a lot. He got shellacked in New Orleans and Las Vegas and Atlanta and even NoVa. If he wins Chicago, that would be a complete reversal of his inability thus far to pull major urban centers, north, south, east, or west. Whether Rahm-hate is able to get him there is an open question. I think probably progressives over-estimate its effects. I don't see it happening: Chicago is a moderate Dem town. I'd be surprised if Bernie pulled more than 40% of the vote from Chicago proper. The northern suburbs will have the same voting pattern as the eastern townships of Greater Boston. Bernie will need to run up big leads in northern, western, and southern Illinois, just as he did in the traditionally Republican areas of Massachusetts.
On Edit: That said, there are reports of high turnout for early voting, so I suspect usual expectations are off the table. I reported on some myself here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511477147
AzDar
(14,023 posts)Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)24601
(3,959 posts)But I like Cruz even less than Trump and that's a pretty low starting point.
So, in my very humble judgment....
Trump is a self-seeking, self satisfying buffoon who's principles are less than an inch deep. Calling himself a Presbyterian, he more closely resembles a Latter-Day Chivas Regal Drinker. Speaking of which, if we all got drunk on election day, the damage Trump could do is limited by his knowledge of government that fits comfortably into a tablespoon with two and a half teaspoons to spare. He would have no natural allies or base with Congress and his effectiveness would be limited by being reversed by the courts and frequent temper tantrums when he finds out Congress, the Judiciary and the Executive Branch are all co-equal branches of government. Given his Miss Universe history, he could end up with USSC nominees based on the who looks hottest in a two-piece robe competition and he probably wouldn't know Antonin Scalia from Thurgood Marshall. He's not a committed conservative and has never really a conservative at all - just a blowhard opportunist that is in love with hearing himself talk about what he thinks people want to hear. He's the weaker general election opponent and I doubt his supporters can really articulate his positions or why they like him.
Cruz on the other hand is a 100% certifiable zealot. His supporters are equally rabid and are true believers that unfortunately know precisely why they love him without reservation and why he loves them back with the same intensity. His campaign slogan should be "Often wrong but never in doubt." I'll sometimes change my mind when I get new information or evolve my position - Cruz won't and falls back on a absolutist view of "my position, right or wrong - and I gave my word, so it must be true...." If Cruz were to win, it likely would mean the Republicans held on to control of both Congressional Houses. Although not popular with the Senate, he has a block of like-(narrow) minded Representatives. As for the Senate, well they are a bit too devoted to collegiality and thus would be malleable for their own good. When it comes to the Courts, Cruz' nominees would make you miss Scalia and he knows enough of the Constitution to push the limits of Executive power beyond anything dreamed of by Nixon. He's the rattlesnake on which you should never turn your back. Easy to slide by unseen and strike before you know he's there. The stronger general election candidate - if he's the nominee, he'll be under-estimated because we won't want to believe he'll get any support - and that's when he's he most dangerous.
There, I've got that off my chest and feel better now.
WhiteTara
(29,703 posts)Avalon Sparks
(2,565 posts)Rattlesnake
different equation
(69 posts)Rebkeh
(2,450 posts)saltpoint
(50,986 posts)over there tomorrow. Seems as if it would be a real eye-opener.
The national media are all feverishly covering the "violence at Trump rallies" angle, although they seem torn between having guests on who condemn the violence and what it means to democracy on one hand and on the other, just reporting on the violence itself because it jacks up their ratings. The national media can be world-class shit-stirrers when it suits them, and it's been suiting them a lot for a long time.