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MowCowWhoHow III

(2,103 posts)
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 02:23 AM Mar 2016

Tennis equal pay row: Raymond Moore quits as Indian Wells chief

Source: BBC

Indian Wells tennis tournament chief Raymond Moore has resigned after his controversial comments about equal pay.

Moore, 69, said the women's game "rides on the coat-tails" of the men, and that male stars had "carried the sport".

Men's world number one Novak Djokovic then claimed his tour should fight for more money.

Tennis legend Martina Navratilova said Moore's comments were "extremely prejudiced", adding female players may boycott Indian Wells if Moore stayed.

Read more: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/35868662

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Tennis equal pay row: Raymond Moore quits as Indian Wells chief (Original Post) MowCowWhoHow III Mar 2016 OP
Good elleng Mar 2016 #1
+1 nitpicker Mar 2016 #2
Djokovic greymouse Mar 2016 #3
Why did Moore even attack women's tennis at all? Ken Burch Mar 2016 #4
It was his way of saying "tombstone me right fucking now". nt JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #5
good... dhill926 Mar 2016 #6
I could not believe this Blue Dalek Mar 2016 #7
What he said was utterly stupid, but somewhat true. TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #8
It still sucks GummyBearz Mar 2016 #9
I agree. It's a politically incorrect to speak it, TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #10
Women players may make way more per hour than men JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2016 #11
You haven't factored in the practice time TexasMommaWithAHat Mar 2016 #12
Is this 1960 or snark? SharonClark Mar 2016 #14
I used to be into Tennis but must admit I don't watch much now. GummyBearz Mar 2016 #15
He should have been instantly fired DebbieCDC Mar 2016 #13

greymouse

(872 posts)
3. Djokovic
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 05:43 AM
Mar 2016

thinks the women struggle with body issues, cause of their hormones, don't ya know. Haven't heard that one since the 1950s, when women weren't supposed to play some sports because they could damage their delicate reproductive organs.

Blue Dalek

(178 posts)
7. I could not believe this
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:58 AM
Mar 2016

I have watched professional tennis for more than 30 years, men's and women's. He sounded like someone in the mid 20th century instead of the 21st century. I told my partner, his guy is toast, now! Was he *trying* to get fired or is he just an asshat? Good riddance.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
8. What he said was utterly stupid, but somewhat true.
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 09:59 AM
Mar 2016

Women's tennis benefits greatly from sharing tournaments with men's tennis. If women had their own tournaments - like women's golf - it would be a lot more obvious how much women actually benefit. I don't think women's tennis would be that much different from women's golf, women's soccer, women's basketball, etc., in that regard.

It sucks, but the public just doesn't support our female athletes.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
9. It still sucks
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 01:14 PM
Mar 2016

But if they don't bring in the crowds, how do they deserve the pay? Hockey players are paid far far less than baseball or NFL players, because Hockey isn't as popular. NFL quarter backs are paid far more than NFL punters. The list goes on. I would be upset if a woman in my profession (office job) is paid less than a male with equal skills. But when you talk about the entertainment industry you are worth what you can bring in. There is a reason females in the pornography industry get paid more than their male counterparts, its economics 101, they bring in the "fans"

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
10. I agree. It's a politically incorrect to speak it,
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Mar 2016

but it's true. Women's tennis rides on the coattails of men's tennis. Sure, some of the women's matches might even sell out before the men's, but if women played stand alone tournaments, they just wouldn't have the amount of exposure that they get now.

They are damn lucky compared to other female athletes.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
11. Women players may make way more per hour than men
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 06:19 PM
Mar 2016

In many tournaments, a women's match is over when one player wins two sets, so they play two or three sets. A men's match is over when one player wins three sets, so they play three, four, or five sets.

Good work if you can get it.

TexasMommaWithAHat

(3,212 posts)
12. You haven't factored in the practice time
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:14 PM
Mar 2016


Frankly, I think this is much ado about nothing.

Women tennis players are much luckier than other female athletes precisely because they share tournaments with the men and can attract a lot more attention. That's not an insult or sexist; it's just the truth.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
14. Is this 1960 or snark?
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:56 PM
Mar 2016

This conversation is a throw back to the days before Title 9. Have you been paying attention to tennis? Women's tennis has been more popular than men's tennis for the last 20 years.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
15. I used to be into Tennis but must admit I don't watch much now.
Wed Mar 23, 2016, 12:45 AM
Mar 2016

It sounds like the professional women tennis players should break off and get separate TV contracts, stadium venues, etc. That is how it works for the WNBA, WPGA, PWBA. Women's pro soccer tried it in the US but folded after a couple years. When you don't bring in crowds and their money, the entertainer doesn't get paid. Simple concept, right? If you are the star, you get paid. They should break away from the men and get paid a proportional amount to the revenue they bring in

DebbieCDC

(2,543 posts)
13. He should have been instantly fired
Tue Mar 22, 2016, 10:44 PM
Mar 2016

not given a chance to "resign"

I'd like to take a tennis racket to this guy's balls if he has any. Good serve and volley practice.

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