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TexasTowelie

(111,938 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:33 AM Mar 2016

Earthquake rattles Tulsa late Monday night

Source: Tulsa World

On a day where the United States Geological Survey released a study saying that risks in Oklahoma are comparable to "high-hazard sites" in California, two earthquakes rattled the state.

Monday's second earthquake was felt across the Tulsa late Monday night. It was a 4.2 magnitude tremblor that hit 3 miles northeast of Crescent at 11:53 p.m., according to the USGS. It was the largest earthquake to rattle Oklahoma since a 5.1 quake near Fairview on Feb. 13.

A 2.9 magnitude quake hit about 9 miles northeast of Enid at 10:35 p.m., the USGS reported.

During the past seven days, Oklahoma has recorded 44 earthquakes, according to the USGS. Monday night's was the largest during that timeframe.


Read more: http://www.tulsaworld.com/earthquakes/earthquake-rattles-tulsa-late-monday-night/article_0305914a-5b89-57f8-85a6-783253911883.html

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Earthquake rattles Tulsa late Monday night (Original Post) TexasTowelie Mar 2016 OP
From Los Angeles I know how frightening when the earth moves Iliyah Mar 2016 #1
I lived there. chapdrum Mar 2016 #17
Fracking earthquakes davidpdx Mar 2016 #2
To be accurate, it is not the fracking by itself, it is pumping the wastewater yellowcanine Mar 2016 #13
To be more accurate, it is pumping produced water into salt water injection wells usually into a Akicita Mar 2016 #27
I don't live in the US, so no I don't support fracking davidpdx Mar 2016 #30
Obviously not fracking because "God's still up there," according to Sen. Snowball Inhofe. tclambert Mar 2016 #21
yes Angry Dragon Mar 2016 #22
Wowsers! ReRe Mar 2016 #3
Well... atreides1 Mar 2016 #9
Hey Atreides Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #19
Thanks... ReRe Mar 2016 #23
The Dept. of Interior likely does chapdrum Mar 2016 #18
Not Sympathetic To The Fundy Fools Who Won't Admit Fracking Likely The Cause. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2016 #4
Every time I hear about this, after I curse at the people who put logosoco Mar 2016 #5
Didn't feel a thing here in Tulsa. I never do when these are reported. OKNancy Mar 2016 #6
There was one last night north of OK city KrazyinKS Mar 2016 #7
Hillary supports fracking fyi. Worked tirelessly as SOS to implement it globally riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #8
That was her job. If Obama wants it, she has to promote it. alfredo Mar 2016 #10
She still does support fracking now when she's not SOS. nt riderinthestorm Mar 2016 #11
The only good thing about fracking is the shifting away from coal. alfredo Mar 2016 #14
And now we know fracked natural gas is just as bad as coal for the climate NickB79 Mar 2016 #24
Leakage is a product of human failings. alfredo Mar 2016 #25
And incompetence and greed are inherent to human nature, unfortunately NickB79 Mar 2016 #26
True. alfredo Mar 2016 #28
When will Oklahomans stand up to the frackers? It's deadly serious. Lodestar Mar 2016 #12
As long as they are ruled by Republicans, nothing will be done. alfredo Mar 2016 #15
Same with if terrorists poisoned Flint drinking water... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #20
Fracking! Woo-hoo! chapdrum Mar 2016 #16
When is the stupid governor going to put an emergency moratorium on all fracking? After Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #29
 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
17. I lived there.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:35 PM
Mar 2016

Have been trying to get Jerry Brown to stop fracking for that reason ALONE.

No luck.

At least he's a climate champion.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
13. To be accurate, it is not the fracking by itself, it is pumping the wastewater
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:55 AM
Mar 2016

back into the fracked rock which causes the quakes. If they stopped doing that, the earthquakes would stop.
As for fracking itself, anyone who uses any oil or gas products is supporting fracking because it is used in virtually all oil and gas extraction in the U.S.

Akicita

(1,196 posts)
27. To be more accurate, it is pumping produced water into salt water injection wells usually into a
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:58 PM
Mar 2016

different formation than the one that was fraced. Some oil wells produce 10 barrels of water for every barrel of oil.

tclambert

(11,084 posts)
21. Obviously not fracking because "God's still up there," according to Sen. Snowball Inhofe.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:14 PM
Mar 2016

"The arrogance of people to think that we, human beings, would be able to change what He is doing in the climate is to me outrageous." Okay, he was talking about climate specifically, but surely he would include earthquakes in the things lowly humans cannot affect on God's Earth. And he's a senator, from Oklahoma, so he must know Oklahoma really well, besides his great expertise in theology. Who can argue with such an intellectual giant?

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
3. Wowsers!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:36 AM
Mar 2016

44 quakes in 7 days? WTF... What's it going to take to stop the fracking all over this country??? Someone kindly explain what the Dept of the Interior does. Seriously, I don't know. I'm glad I don't live there, because if I did I would be searching for a frack-free place to move to,
if there is such a place.

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
9. Well...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 10:09 AM
Mar 2016

Interior can't do much, since it's the states that decide on the fracking issue! All they can do is to put out the information, and step back and let Oklahoma conduct its business, as it sees fit!

Besides, even if Oklahoma City were hit with a destructive quake, and thousands lost their lives...the Republican controlled legislature would still allow fracking! In reality the lives of the people mean very little to what are mostly a group of amoral, money grubbing, corporate, ass kissers!

If 100,000 people died in a massive earthquake, tomorrow...and Oklahoma City was turned into rubble...the Republicans at the federal level would put all of the blame on the Interior Department, much like they are doing now with the EPA and Flint!

In other words, there is nothing that can be done, as long as people buy into the BS that the Republicans and their oil company masters are selling...even the deaths of thousands will do nothing to change the way they do things!!!

Avalon Sparks

(2,560 posts)
19. Hey Atreides
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:46 PM
Mar 2016

Just want to point out that some Dems are beholden to the Gas & Oil industry also. In fact our leading Presidential nominee won't come out agaisnt fracking.

I'm in Dallas Texas and the earthquakes and pollution from fracking are quite bad here, so I pay attention on which candidates are agaisnt it, sadly few it the State of Texas.

But the real issue is campaign finance laws...

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
23. Thanks...
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:24 PM
Mar 2016

... that's what I thought. IOW, they're doing everything they shouldn't be doing, and not doing what they should be doing. We're all a bunch of sitting ducks.
Life expectancy will some day be a measure of who escapes a man-made disaster the longest.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
18. The Dept. of Interior likely does
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:38 PM
Mar 2016

little or nothing.

From part-time climate work in the Bay Area, can say that agencies putatively regulating the industry have been largely commandeered by the same, ala fox guarding henhouse.

 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
4. Not Sympathetic To The Fundy Fools Who Won't Admit Fracking Likely The Cause.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:59 AM
Mar 2016

I could give a shit about Oklahoma's problem. They just won't admit that fracking might be the problem. And they won't even admit it if one of their cities is shaken to dust. They are also the chief climate warming deniers as well. It's a POS state that will drag us all down over their super religious super conservative values.

They just refuse to do anything to mitigate the situation.

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
5. Every time I hear about this, after I curse at the people who put
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 08:31 AM
Mar 2016

profits before anything, I worry about what effect this could be having on the New Madrid fault. It is not that far away from Oklahoma.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
6. Didn't feel a thing here in Tulsa. I never do when these are reported.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:06 AM
Mar 2016

But thanks for all the concern to those who are sincere.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
7. There was one last night north of OK city
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 09:26 AM
Mar 2016

Here in Wichita people said they felt it, but I did not. I slept soundly. They has an article in this mornings newspaper on steps you can take to minimize damage. Such as securing knick-knacks, tall bookcases, canned goods, having a pair of shoes by your bed so you don't step on glass, and the list goes on. Well that's a first.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
14. The only good thing about fracking is the shifting away from coal.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 12:18 PM
Mar 2016

T Bone Pickens saw natural gas as a bridge away from coal to renewables.

As long as the Republicans are fighting against renewables, we do what we can until the market forces them to relent. Such things as the pollution and earthquakes from fracking will hasten the adoption of renewables. Until then, we need to demand ethical operation of the wells, strict enforcement of EPA rules, and the political will to move to renewables.

We have some mountain top removal flat lands that would be suitable for solar, and to a lesser degree, wind, but the infrastructure to implement solar farms is not in place. The right wing politics prevents any such programs. Any move that threatens the power of king coal is met with howls of protests.

Hillary was widely criticised when she made statements on the demise of coal and the need for retraining and new industries for the region. Nothing will get done without the blessings of the coal barons that control the Republicans of the state and nation.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
24. And now we know fracked natural gas is just as bad as coal for the climate
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:53 PM
Mar 2016
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/next/earth/methane-regulations/

If Ingraffea is right, the amount of methane released into the atmosphere from oil and gas wells, pipelines, processing and storage facilities has a warming affect approaching that of the country’s 557 coal fired power plants. Reducing such a high rate of emissions by 40–45% would certainly help stall climate change. It would also likely be much more difficult to achieve than the cuts industry and environmental groups are currently debating.


Natural gas isn't a bridge; it's a dead end.

alfredo

(60,071 posts)
25. Leakage is a product of human failings.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 05:39 PM
Mar 2016

Incompetence and greed conspire to make any such enterprise deliver less than promised. It is a dead end if politicians stop the transition to alternatives. We have enough evidence to show that fracking is not a good idea, and that the move to renewables should be allowed to continue.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
26. And incompetence and greed are inherent to human nature, unfortunately
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 06:51 PM
Mar 2016

It's not so much that leakage of methane from fracking is a product of human failings, but rather an expected outcome. We're genetically hardwired to not consider long-term consequences, it seems

Lodestar

(2,388 posts)
12. When will Oklahomans stand up to the frackers? It's deadly serious.
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
Mar 2016

And as fellow DUer stated in another thread about fracking, if terrorists
were doing what the frackers are doing, we'd send in the military to take
them out. It is a major threat to our homeland and millions of people.

 

chapdrum

(930 posts)
16. Fracking! Woo-hoo!
Tue Mar 29, 2016, 01:32 PM
Mar 2016

For the handful of adventurers far from the fracking sites...

Who gladly risk polluting the drinking water of millions of Americans,

who gladly risk (if not outright) destroying arable agricultural lands,

for the sake of bigger and bigger profit for themselves only.

We salute you, and the system that allows you to commit these depradations of the commonweal with perfect legality.

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