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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:03 PM Mar 2016

Walmart’s First-Ever Revenue Drop: End Of An Era?

Source: Bloomberg

BY SHELLY BANJO
Bloomberg News

Not every milestone is worth celebrating.

For the first time ever – or at least since the company went public some 45 years ago – Walmart's revenues shrank from the year before, according to its annual financial filing released Wednesday.

Walmart is clearly having trouble adapting its gigantic stores to the Internet age. To be sure, it is a retail juggernaut that brings in half a trillion dollars (that’s right, trillion) in sales every year. And with more than 11,500 stores in 28 countries,there’s no way it will disappear anytime soon.

Still, Walmart might have just hit its growth limit.

And the sales dip comes despite the fact that Walmart spent $11.5 billion (roughly matching what J.C. Penney made in sales last year) to build more than 400 new stores, remodel old locations, and revamp its website and other technology to better serve its customers.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/article69265187.html

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Walmart’s First-Ever Revenue Drop: End Of An Era? (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2016 OP
A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step! charliea Mar 2016 #1
Eff 'em....they are bloodsuckers... Human101948 Mar 2016 #2
I'd like to live long enough to see the demise of Walmart and Facebook Skittles Mar 2016 #3
Is a drop like a dump? Because my local walmart certainly is one. Tikki Mar 2016 #4
That's what happens when you destroy your customer base. dogman Mar 2016 #5
wish I could rec your comment rurallib Mar 2016 #6
I doubt they had much of a direct impact on those paying for the safety net itself causing them to cstanleytech Mar 2016 #17
A lot of property tax relief that is not afforded homeowners and other small businesses. dogman Mar 2016 #20
Bad day for Hillary. First the Greenpeace protester and now the WalMart news. jalan48 Mar 2016 #7
Now that they have killed many small towns and put many small businesses out of business. redstatebluegirl Mar 2016 #8
There was a article just a few weeks ago about the small town Purveyor Mar 2016 #9
They opened one of those Walmart Markets in a small town in Oklahoma. redstatebluegirl Mar 2016 #11
Well, they'll just have to cut their employees' pay and make the federal govt provide valerief Mar 2016 #10
It's not just the internet that's hurt them. zentrum Mar 2016 #12
I read an article this past weekend Sherman A1 Mar 2016 #13
Aldi's is so much cheaper and so much better than Walmart that it is almost funny. djean111 Mar 2016 #14
Locally at least, Aldi pays their employees rather well. $14hr in the Purveyor Mar 2016 #15
What about the hours per week though? If they require you to keep an open time for them to schedule cstanleytech Mar 2016 #19
Depends what you buy, for basic produce they have very good prices on things like lettuce cstanleytech Mar 2016 #18
I am pretty much a very-low-carber, so I stick to vegetables, mostly, anyway. djean111 Mar 2016 #21
isn't aldi's that store that sells generics of the generics? mdbl Apr 2016 #32
They sell some brands from Germany, and have their own store brands. djean111 Apr 2016 #34
Love that name lordsummerisle Mar 2016 #16
I shop there about 3 times a month.... Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #22
I too shop there about once every 2 months to get my dogs insulin. Cost $25 at Walmart with the Purveyor Mar 2016 #23
That is a very good reason Avalon Sparks Mar 2016 #24
There is a WINCO where I live CountAllVotes Apr 2016 #28
Thank you very much for the review... Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #29
a lot of the WINCO brands are fairly good CountAllVotes Apr 2016 #30
a few months ago Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2016 #26
Yuck.... Avalon Sparks Apr 2016 #27
I still can't figure out how that milk spoiled. Because it wasn't just spoiled milk yucky smell. Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2016 #31
Let's hope so. NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #25
Wal-Mart was in South Korea from 1998 until 2006 and failed miserably davidpdx Apr 2016 #33
I don't shop at Walmart Marthe48 Apr 2016 #35
simple fix... Javaman Apr 2016 #36
No doubt Wally World will CLAIM their revenue drop Mad-in-Mo Apr 2016 #37

dogman

(6,073 posts)
5. That's what happens when you destroy your customer base.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:16 PM
Mar 2016

It needs customers. Customers need a paycheck to spend. Dumping your workforce on the public safety net taxes other customers who then have less money to spend. This, and the vendors they have destroyed, has cost so many jobs but these people deserve huge paychecks because they are so brilliant.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
17. I doubt they had much of a direct impact on those paying for the safety net itself causing them to
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:58 PM
Mar 2016

have less money to spend but they have strained the safety net and have caused it to break with their jobs that offer low wages and few hours which has caused a trickle down effect of people having less and less money to spend which then impacted some businesses and caused some of them to lay people off and or reduce their employees hours in order to maintain their own growth in profits which then caused more and more people to have less money to spend in a feedback loop.

dogman

(6,073 posts)
20. A lot of property tax relief that is not afforded homeowners and other small businesses.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:20 PM
Mar 2016

Usually about a half-million local tax relief per store. I just read about a new store in the town I lived in. They collect sales tax from the customer but do not have to remit the total to the state until they have retained $500,000. How do competitors survive in that environment? Another trick is use a store until it has depreciated and then build a new one and make the same demands over again. The community has just gained a building they need to get back on the tax rolls. They must then grant the new breaks on the new store or they will move down the road to the next town that will give it to them. Of course it's not just Walmart, most box stores have followed their model.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
8. Now that they have killed many small towns and put many small businesses out of business.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:29 PM
Mar 2016

I honestly don't care what happens to them at this point.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
9. There was a article just a few weeks ago about the small town
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:32 PM
Mar 2016

that had a Wal-mart move in and all the small businesses closed up.

Walmart then announced they were closing that store and now the town has no where to shop.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
11. They opened one of those Walmart Markets in a small town in Oklahoma.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:35 PM
Mar 2016

They forced the family owned store to close and now after only a year or so they are pulling out, leaving the town with no grocery store. The residents have to drive a long distance for groceries now. They are toads.

valerief

(53,235 posts)
10. Well, they'll just have to cut their employees' pay and make the federal govt provide
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:34 PM
Mar 2016

more in subsidies to the employees. Because Walmart never does without. God forbid those gazillionaires should lose fuckin' penny!

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
12. It's not just the internet that's hurt them.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:39 PM
Mar 2016

It's their own greedy greed. They don't pay their workers enough that their families can shop there.



 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
14. Aldi's is so much cheaper and so much better than Walmart that it is almost funny.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 07:55 PM
Mar 2016

Walmart, here in Florida, is more expensive and has less variety than Publix. Seriously.
And when I am especially broke, and can get there, Aldi's is fantastic.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
15. Locally at least, Aldi pays their employees rather well. $14hr in the
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 08:00 PM
Mar 2016

last help wanted ad I seen from them. Around here that is a pretty good wage.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
19. What about the hours per week though? If they require you to keep an open time for them to schedule
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:08 PM
Mar 2016

you if you want any hours at all and are scheduling people for 2 shifts a week of 6 hours each like Walmart or Bi-Lo does in my area then its gonna suck.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
18. Depends what you buy, for basic produce they have very good prices on things like lettuce
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:03 PM
Mar 2016

but I can get grapes cheaper at the local grocery stores and their version of raisin bran is lousy which has caused me to hesitate at trying some of their other private label stuff.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
21. I am pretty much a very-low-carber, so I stick to vegetables, mostly, anyway.
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:28 PM
Mar 2016

And some fruit, but not too much. And meat. And cheese. and butter and olive oil. Have not eaten cereal - or drunk milk, really - since I was a kid, and I just last week got to the amazing age of 70! Doing pretty well, too.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
32. isn't aldi's that store that sells generics of the generics?
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:26 AM
Apr 2016

I couldn't find any brands I recognized.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
34. They sell some brands from Germany, and have their own store brands.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:50 AM
Apr 2016

I buy very little processed food, so it is not an issue for me. I look at the ingredients and the carb counts for anything I buy. No, I am not a 'health nut", just have been very poor and learned that a box of salty chemicals is not getting much for my money. And then, I avoid carbs when possible and when resolute.

I believe the same German family that started Aldi's over in Europe also owns Trader Joe's.

Avalon Sparks

(2,563 posts)
22. I shop there about 3 times a month....
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:32 PM
Mar 2016

I don't need to, but it's the store that is close to me.

The new remodel changed the store to have smaller aisles length-wise, and it's fight or flight with the weird layout, like I'm going to either get run into, or run into someone with my cart, with all the turns you have to make now to navigate around the different aisles. I'm constantly having to say excuse me too, at all these intersections. I know, first world problem....but I start feeling anxiety in there now, can't wait to get out of there....even when it's not crowded...it's like shopping in a maze.

The other thing they have started, is really pushing there crappy store brand, they've eliminated some other brands completely and given their own stuff way more shelf space. And what's left of other brands have less real estate too, and when they run out, it's just Great Value brand left...

Most of there great value choices really do suck.

I think both of these decisions were bad, I find myself going to other grocery stores more now, then before these changes. They no longer sell about 7 or 8 things I buy all the time so I have to go to other stores to get them now anyway.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
23. I too shop there about once every 2 months to get my dogs insulin. Cost $25 at Walmart with the
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:40 PM
Mar 2016

next cheapest price in town being around $90 for the exact same Novolin N.

For that savings, I can make the effort to shop there for sure. About all I ever get though...

Avalon Sparks

(2,563 posts)
24. That is a very good reason
Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:09 PM
Mar 2016

I really need to stop going there, it really is mostly about convenience. We have a Winco going up next year, i believe the store employees are owners, suppose to be a great company, can't wait til it opens.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
28. There is a WINCO where I live
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:03 AM
Apr 2016

I shop there a couple of times a month even though it is a 50 mile r/t drive. I easily say the money it costs to drive there on what I buy there.

Their produce (fresh) is not that great but I settle for it.

Meat = I do not buy the cheap cuts of meat they sell (not much of a meat eater anyway).

Everything else: This is the place to go for everything else.

You cannot beat their prices most of the time and the WINCO here does a great business!

I'm sure you'll like it, just watch out for the fresh produce and meats that they sell is my advice.



CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
30. a lot of the WINCO brands are fairly good
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 03:36 AM
Apr 2016

They make their own butter, milk, etc. I haven't tried the milk but have bought the butter before and it is AOK.

You find WINCO products throughout the store and they tend to be half the price of what a competitor's product is like (real similar IMO).

The one where I live sells money orders for $.50 and the ATM in the store charges a $1.00 fee for withdrawals which helps saved a couple of bucks.

Real good for cat food, cat litter, anything to do with pets.

I happen to like non-alcoholic beer and they sell it there for $5.90 a six pack whereas you'll find the same thing at Safeway for $6.99 a six pack.

So as you can tell, there are savings throughout the store and it adds up.

They had Progresso soup on sell for $.98 a can in December. I stocked up and bought 40 cans of it (this sells for $3.59/can at CVS!). That right there is a saving of $2.61/can X 40 which is over $100 right there.

So shop and save at WINCO and nice folks running the place too. The employees own the stores.

for WINCO

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
26. a few months ago
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 01:35 AM
Apr 2016

I got some Great Value organic milk. I opened it and it smelled horrible. It did not smell rotten like it had gone bad. The liquid and solid were completely separated. Have never seen anything like this and will never buy it again.

Avalon Sparks

(2,563 posts)
27. Yuck....
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 02:47 AM
Apr 2016

I had to buy some cream cheese for a recipe for these awesome cookies I've made for years, and my Grandmother and Mother made before me.....

The Walfart was out of Philly, just a small couple rows were allocated.....but plenty of Great Value....and no other brand. I was in a hurry, and got the GV.

Cookies came out like crap....

i read a few months ago they were trying to attract more middle class shoppers, however by offering fewer brands and dominating the shelf space with GV products, good luck with that counterproductive plan.

One last story, again involves the super small shelf space for name brands...

I was making tomato soup and bought the canned tomatos. Wasn't paying attention and grabbed one can of Hunts and the can of GV next to it.

When I got home and realized it, I opened both and did a taste test. Omg, the GV was awful.

Now, I don't have much experience with GV products except really these two... But I do resent the push and dominance in the store, and the limits of so many other brands now.

I think as far as food goes, this is gonna back fire on them. We shall see

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
31. I still can't figure out how that milk spoiled. Because it wasn't just spoiled milk yucky smell.
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 04:53 AM
Apr 2016

And the nearly complete separation of solids and liquids.

Never again. I live in one of those rural shitholes where we don't have choices.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. Wal-Mart was in South Korea from 1998 until 2006 and failed miserably
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 06:44 AM
Apr 2016

They essentially used the same store format and everything thinking it would work here. Wal-Mart ended up selling their stores off to another chain and leaving South Korea.

I've also been in two of their stores in China. One was fairly nice, the other was a fucking stinkhole.

Marthe48

(16,931 posts)
35. I don't shop at Walmart
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 11:23 AM
Apr 2016

I did until about 24 years ago, when I feel like I woke up. I picked up medicine there for my Mom and then my mother-in-law and switched their prescriptions to Kroger pharmacy as quick as I could. I don't even want to be in Walmart to get things for somebody else.
A few years ago, I went in the Walmart in my town with my adult daughter, and she kept asking me if I was sure there wasn't anything I could use and I kept saying no. We got separated and when we met up, I said, 'I found something in here I can use!' She was so happy and asked me what I had found. 'The restroom!' I said. She doesn't think I'm that funny lol

I do shop at Aldi's, mostly for fresh produce, cheese and a few frozen items. We're trying to stop using canned goods, but if I buy GV, it is ok for what I use it for.

Javaman

(62,510 posts)
36. simple fix...
Fri Apr 1, 2016, 12:44 PM
Apr 2016

not that I love walmart, but it serves a need.

give all your employees a living wage.

most are on food-stamps and Medicaid.

you put more money in their pocket, the more they will spend

the failure of corporations to understand this very basic concept never fails to amaze me.

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