Bernie Sanders Says He Has the Money to Campaign Beyond California Primary
Source: NY Times
SPRECKELS, Calif. Bernie Sanders signaled Wednesday that he would continue his presidential campaign beyond the California primary next week, saying he had the money to keep running until the Democratic National Convention next month.
During a news conference while campaigning in California, the Vermont senator said he already had plans to host events in Washington next week and to lobby superdelegates to withdraw their support from Hillary Clinton and back him instead. He added that he felt confident he can win Californias primary on Tuesday and that Mrs. Clinton was campaigning in the state because of polls showing the two locked in a tight race there. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released on Wednesday shows the race in a statistical tie.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-california-primary.html
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)TonyPDX
(962 posts)tinrobot
(10,893 posts)samson212
(83 posts)I suppose he could be trying to get voters to put pressure on them?
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)billhicks76
(5,082 posts)awake
(3,226 posts)It show that Berrie understands the problem and untill you see the problem you can not begain to soleve it
zentrum
(9,865 posts).....on the party platform and afterwards on the Democratic party. Well worth the fight. He's transforming the party from within which was desperately needed.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)This is all about his ego; he wants to join Trump in attacking the Democratic Party and its nominee.
What I find interesting is that for all his talk about respecting the will of the people, he is now working to overturn it.
At first I had some sympathy for his intentions, but I've lost all respect for him and his massive ego. There was an interesting interview with Howard Dean some weeks ago about how easy it is to get carried away with one's apparent support, the cheering crowds, the ebullience and enthusiasm while not recognizing that one is still in the minority.
Dean, however, had integrity that Sanders clearly lacks. He worked to build the part, not to destroy it.
Sanders knows nothing about building, he only knows how to tear things down. That makes him unworthy of either support or respect within the Democratic Party.
He should go away.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)...get it that he doesn't either, I have no problem with that.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)You understand that, right? There are lots of us.
christx30
(6,241 posts)"This country is messed up all to hell, and I'm the one that's going to fix it!"
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)Many joke about the crowning of the Inevitable One. You actually believe in it! lol
The will of the people? He has won most of the last States. The momentum is one his side. If anything, the will of the people is that Hillary step off. The will of the people, of the Democratic people, is that they hold a primary at least every 8 years to elect a candidate. And that process is not over, despite some of you wishing wishing wishing it was so. I'm sure you'd have just preferred to crown Ms. Clinton months ago and that Bernie had ever run. But...he did.
And many think that the party is already being destroyed from within, for years already. Bernie is working to put it back together as it should be, back to the real Democratic Party ie. FDR, representing ALL of us. Sanders is building it back up. Sorry you don't want to be a part of it.
Duval
(4,280 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)Wherever he lost, he or his supporters cried "fraud."
He can't believe that anyone disagrees with him, because he's rather solipsistic.
I am voting for Ms. Clinton next week, proudly, particularly after her remarks yesterday. She is experienced, she is capable, knowledgeable and smart. In a rational world, she should have been seen as inevitable. She, like all human beings, has some flaws which the far right, and now the far left, trumpet to the point of obscenity, but she was, is, and will remain the best candidate put before the American people by a wide margin.
While I had some respect for Mr. Sanders originally because of his views on income inequality - although I extend my concern far beyond the borders of the US - I have always thought his environmental and energy policies disastrous, and never considered him a serious candidate.
I am very, very, very bored - when not amused - with the Sanders crowd raising the issue of FDR. They seem to be entirely unaware of history.
Sanders is no FDR, not even close. FDR was a lifelong Democrat; and was served by a capable - actually more capable than he was himself - woman, his wife, who by the way, took as much flack from the right wing as Ms. Clinton did when she was living in the White House, and still went on to be recorded as one of the greatest Democrats of the 20th century.. I note that Ms. Clinton will be similarly served by a successful and experienced spouse, which is not the reason to vote for her, but is a nice ad on.
Losers who cannot accept a clear loss in a campaign like this one are not worthy of respect; and at this point, I have very little respect for Bernard Sanders.
Have a nice day.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)As long as you realize that you are in the minority. Just like the majority on DU, most Democrats across the country want Bernie to stay in the race.
https://morningconsult.com/2016/06/01/poll-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race/
A national survey of 2,001 registered voters taken last week (see toplines and crosstabs) shows 57 percent of respondents said the Vermont independent should stay in the race, compared with 28 percent who said he should drop out and 15 percent who didnt know or had no opinion.
I know you really really really really want your candidate to be fast tracked, and she should be inevitable, but you are going to have to wait a little longer. And while you wait, if you really do want Her Inevitableness to go beyond the primaries, then its best not to antagonize half the Democrats with Trumpish putdowns like "loser", before its a reality.
samson212
(83 posts)You know there is ample evidence of fraud, right?
In what way do you think his environmental and energy policies are disastrous? I think they're the bees' knees!
"FDR was a lifelong Democrat" -- Bernie has voted with Democrats throughout his career. He was an independent because the DNC has slid so far away from FDR-era ideals.
"was served by a capable ... woman, his wife" -- are you impugning Jane Sanders? Or FDR? Just trying to be clear, here. The policies of FDR and BS are very similar, that's where the comparison comes from. Do you disagree with that argument? Or do you just think that FDR was somehow a better person? I don't get it.
"Losers who cannot accept a clear loss in a campaign like this one are not worthy of respect" -- I think that this has been a pretty close race. How do you figure it's a "clear" loss? Are you including the unpledged delegates who announced their support before Bernie entered the race? Are you assuming that, because the number "3 million" sounds really big, Hillary's way ahead? Bernie has about 31.5% of the total delegates, and Hillary has about 37% (I'm not including unpledged delegates because they haven't voted yet). 16% of pledged delegates have not been elected yet, and the 15% of delegates who are unpledged will not vote until July. That's 30% of the vote still outstanding. You know that, typically, primary elections are overwhelmingly in one candidate's favor, right? That this cycle and 2008 are outliers? Yes, it seems likely that Clinton will win, as she has the lead. But I don't think that Bernie staying in represents hubris -- it's not over yet!
NNadir
(33,512 posts)<iframe width="854" height="480" src="
" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>After Tuesday, Sanders will be running, like Trump, against the [i[formal Democratic nominee, which in my view, he has been doing for the last several months.
I find this entirely consistent with his entire behavior since the beginning.
I don't regard him as a Democrat, and yes, the loss is pretty clear, and no, Bernie Sanderx is not FDR, not even close, and it's tiresome and silly to say he is.
I'm not involved in a fantasy, and I couldn't care less about Jane Sanders and no, she could neither professionally or intellectually shine Eleanor Roosevelt's shoes.
Have a nice weekend.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)former9thward
(31,973 posts)FDR got rid of Wallace when it appeared he may die in a 4th term. Wallace supported Eisenhower and Nixon in future elections.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)FDR notoriously private about his personal opinions and took little interest in any of his Vice Presidents, but famously made a call to a meeting which was being held with Harry S. Truman, bellowing (so Truman could hear it) "Did you sign up that fellow Truman yet?"
Harry S. Truman became President in 1945. You could, in fact, look it up.
Henry Wallace ran for President in 1948 trying to sabotage the Truman campaign while announcing that the Marshall Plan was run by "warlords and money changers" Henry Wallace's 1948 Presidential Campaign and the Future of Postwar Liberalism THOMAS W. DEVINE Copyright Date: 2013 Published by: University of North Carolina Press cf page 95
Um...the Marshall Plan.
He was severely rebuked by none other than Eleanor Roosevelt for this rather bizarre stance, as well as his stance on Stalin's 1947 engineering of a coup in 1947 in Czechoslovakia. He also opposed the Berlin Airlift.
Um, Wallace didn't defeat Truman in 1948, nor did he manage to throw the election to the shoo-in Thomas Dewey.
In the 1948 campaign, no less than Eleanor Roosevelt - who was in my view the greatest Democrat of the 20th Century, greater even than her husband - called Henry Wallace to assure him that liberals were definitely not behind him. (Ibid, Devine, page 48.)
(Now I do recognize that the Sanders campaign believes that the South won the Civil War and that therefore North Carolina is not part of the United States, but I tend to regard North Carolina and its voters as legitimate Americans, and have no problem with academic books published by the University of North Carolina Press.)
In any case, for you to announce that FDR would have "voted for Bernie" borders on the absurd, and demonstrates a historical naiveté that corresponds roughly to Wallace's naiveté, as well as that of that increasingly tiresome fool Sanders himself.
Call me a right wing ideologue - I'm unsurprised by the pro-Sanders rhetoric here and elsewhere - but I actually, um, think that the Marshall plan was, um, a good idea, a great idea in fact. Most historians agree I think.
Henry Wallace is basically a forgotten footnote in history, a place he aptly deserves, as does Senator Sanders, another hero of self-righteous types who deign to speak for everyone else, including FDR's ghost, with the confidence that they are righteous.
I'm deeply suspicious of righteousness, because too often it slips into dogma, and sometimes into delusion.
I would characterize the ability to speak for FDR about the 2016 election using at least one of the evocative nouns in the last sentence that begins with a "d."
One thing that is patently clear about FDR, is that he admired and worked closely with very strong women, one of whom happened to be his wife, if not actually - in later years - his lover. I will not speak for him - famously he was an enigma wrapped in a riddle - but I'm quite sure he would have no problem with a strong woman running for President. I could be wrong about that, but, having read extensively on Roosevelt, I think it quite plausible. I don't expect him to endorse anyone in this race however, being dead, although given the desperation of the Sanders campaign, I would not be surprised to hear that a spirit world medium in the campaign has announced such an endorsement.
Have a nice day.
samson212
(83 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)
he misses the party.
Millions of us miss the party. The party of FDR.
The party that used to clearly stand for working people against corporate exploitation. But for many years, in many instances, it's been hard to tell the difference. The Koch's, for example, were one of the funders of the Clinton-founded DLC, because they loved that the Party was moving so rightward.
Bernie is an old style Democrat.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)for all the years he stayed on the outside. He's enjoying his moment in the sun, for as long as he can.
wallyworld2
(375 posts)There are problems with the Democratic party and you cannot change those problems if you don't acknowledge them.
Pandering to working people once every four years is not the same as representing them.
There is no such thing as comfortable walking shoes when it comes to actually walking with labor.
Goldman Sachs won't pay for speeches from people who do that kind of walk
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I hope it gives you a different perspective than "sick of it."
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)After he said he wouldn't.
And he hasn't let up. I cannot forgive him for the nastiness.
Ned_Devine
(3,146 posts)I just got through watching this documentary on the Scientologists, and when I read comments like yours, it just reminds me of their true believers. Hasn't let up? What on earth are you talking about? Please don't respond.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Ant the Saint Bernard can do no wrong
Bye!
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Oh yeah about the banks! Sure and about the 1% too! That is why we love him. Bernie represents the change this country is hungry for and wants.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Where everything the Saint Bernard says or does is good.
Bye!
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)What are the specific and desperately needed transformations within the Democratic party his running has directly and measurably changed which cannot be attributed to any other explanation?
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)I contributed to him as a final effort for the
primaries more than I can afford, but thought
that he will need it for the other outstanding
states.
Keep it up, Bernie, keep it up!
dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I'm giving to BERNIE. When Bernie gets the nomination, the rest of the puzzle will fall into place. And BTW, I DO give to aspirants that he favors - so there's your "downticket" support.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)TonyPDX
(962 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)favorites...to put it mildly...then maybe he should.
Until then, he has money from we "little folk" and I don't want my small monthly donation to go for someone I don't know in some state I don't live in.
That's an Insane Idea comingled with a Snarky Reply. Find something that really matters.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)He has endorsed and fundraised for Zephyr Teachout, Lucy Flores, Pramila Jayapal, Tim Canova, Justin Bamberg, David Bowen, Clara Hart, Terry Alexander, Carol Ammons, Chris Pearson, Jane Kim, Joe Salazar.
This is in contrast to Hillary Clinton's fundraising where only 1% goes to the downticket.
Please stop spreading falsehoods, thanks.
jillan
(39,451 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)We want campaign finance reform not this machine that Hillary feeds with her corporate money.
We want all candidates to be publicly financed.
ThinkCritically
(241 posts)also included down ticket candidates with whom he split the donation. I've actually donated to several other candidates through his donation system. I assume if he is the nominee he will raise boat loads for down ticket candidates, especially if all democrats are on board. Not only did he help them raise the money, but they are serious contenders. One of them is Tim Canova who is running against Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Kamala Harris in California is another. Alan Grayson in Florida going after Marco Rubios seat, Pramila Jayapal to replace Jim McDermott, Zephyr Teachout to flip a republican seat in New York, and Lucy Flores to flip a republican seat in Nevada. He is also helping out state level democrats get elected as well. And he still has months to fund other democrats, especially if he gets nominated.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)i have seen at least one thread where he has done so.
cher
trudyco
(1,258 posts)that people told me about right here on DU!
I'm tired of this lying talking point. Come up with a new one.
At least come up with one I can almost believe. Sheesh.
Oh. And a guy who's only taking donations from little guys shouldn't be expected to give money to down ticket nearly as much as the 100 BILLION dollar Clinton Foundation et al.
padfun
(1,786 posts)I get lots of emails from him and DFA to support progressive candidates. So I have sent to about 8 different ones. I wouldn't have done this before, especially since these candidates are out of state. I just want to help get more progressives in and take back what was taken from our party 20-25 years ago.
I don't think Hillary fans are donating at all. They are just relying on Goldman Sachs to do all of the giving.
TeamPooka
(24,218 posts)defying the will of the voters is an interesting campaign tactic
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)of the establishment faithful.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Voters have spoken and have chosen Hillary over Sanders. She has a large pledged delegate advantage and is also far ahead in the popular vote. Hillary will be the nominee.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)WASHINGTON (CNN) -- For the second time in three days, Sen. Hillary Clinton told reporters that the pledged delegates awarded based on vote totals in their state are not bound to abide by election results.
Sen. Hillary Clinton lags behind Sen. Barack Obama in the popular vote and in pledged delegates.
It's an idea that has been floated by her or a campaign surrogate nearly half a dozen times this month.
Sen. Barack Obama leads Clinton among all Democratic delegates, 1,622 to 1,485, in the latest CNN count. Among pledged delegates, Obama leads Clinton 1,413 to 1,242.
"Every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose," Clinton told Time's Mark Halperin in an interview published Wednesday.
"We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment," she said.
Clinton's remarks echoed her Monday comments to the editorial board of the Philadelphia Daily News.
"And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged," she said Monday. "You know there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They're just like superdelegates."
Clinton also made similar comments in a Newsweek interview published two weeks ago.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)pnwmom
(108,973 posts)of the respondents in the sample -- which is always relevant. Did it over sample or under sample any group? No way to tell.
I haven't seen a poll this whole primary season that didn't report the respondents' races. Very strange.
ananda
(28,856 posts)If Gore and Kerry had had that spirit, we
wouldn't be in the horrible situation of so
much corporate power and cronyism.
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)Thank you!
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)A smear would be talking about his activities in the Soviet Union.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)an ego, such as trump. That IS a smear! Bernie smear du jour!
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)But Bernie's problem is he can't accept he lost. He is too perfect and righteous to lose. That's ego.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)held. Neither candidate will have the required amount of delegates.
The ego resides with miss "IIIII'm going to set up a private server in mmmmyyyyy basement while doing the people's work so the people do not know what IIIII am up to". That is EGO!
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Bernie hasn't been willing to accept it. He's going to fall much further behind this weekend. Next week looks like a wash if he's lucky. He'll will never be as close as he is today. If he stays where he is now, he needs to go from -522 Super Delegates to +493 Super Delegates. It's not going to happen.
Next week Hillary will correctly be declared the winner. Obama and Warren will come out and say the primary is over. The weight of the race will crush him if he doesn't choose to do the right things. It will be no less over despite his ego.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)Let's be serious here. You wish something bad happens to someone else and you're calling me the mean one.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Because I am, and it looks good from here.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)ThinkCritically
(241 posts)and all the conversations I hear around here are about Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. I've only met 4 actual real live Hillary supporters at a Bernie rally. There were 30,000 people at that rally. I heard Donald Trump had a rally here in Sacramento today and 5000 showed. Bill Clinton had a rally here about a week ago and 1000 showed. My boss is a Trump supporter but every other person there is a Bernie supporter. It's incredible how much energy is going on here for the election.
NJCher
(35,648 posts)stop.
cher
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)to have a president that doesn't cave in and is a true fighter. The Democrats are notorious for being weak.
Renew Deal
(81,852 posts)But but but he renamed post offices.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)plan that he and Bernie put together cooperating with each other.
Honestly! The complete negativity of Hillary fans is quite amazing.
I couldn't be that negative, totally negative no matter how hard I tried.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)He's riding on top of the world, as anyone can plainly see.
Beloved by many millions, for his integrity and decency and human spirit.
True to his values all of his life.
On the cusp of an historic campaign of the people.
You will notice that there are no bags under HIS eyes. No lack of energy. He has no trouble sleeping, obviously. He sleeps the sleep of the man without guile.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)He's not even riding on top of the primary.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)and your denials won't change the reality.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)The news I read talk about Hillary having millions of more votes than Bernie.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)LizetteWest
(42 posts)woodsprite
(11,910 posts)phone bank, and get the word out. I'm right there with you!
Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)money well spent
wallyworld2
(375 posts)Money well spent indeed
kimbutgar
(21,111 posts)I respect Bernie Sanders pushing the real issues over bs MSM made up outrages.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I have donated monthly for Bernie and will continue.
Thank you for working so hard for all of us Bernie!
Gothmog
(145,091 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)May 28, 2008
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/05/clintons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/
"In a final plea to undeclared Democratic superdelegates, Sen. Hillary Clinton points to her lead in the popular vote, some recent polling showing her strength against John McCain, and surveys showing that voters believe she is ready to serve as commander in chief..."
ONE big difference, Obama was not being investigated by the FBI, he did not have the 'trust' issue and possible legal issues that Clinton now faces.
LibDemAlways
(15,139 posts)won't be a done deal until the convention at the end of July. Plenty can happen between now and then. There's a pesky little FBI investigation underway and it doesn't involve Bernie. That alone should keep him in the race.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I gave money I don't even have.
Nyan
(1,192 posts)leftinportland
(247 posts)to pay Hillary's campaign debts?
ebayfool
(3,411 posts)woodsprite
(11,910 posts)then take it off on their taxes.
MFM008
(19,804 posts)one day he will have to go back to work. He wont get cooperation from republicans OR democrats.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)are so prevalent in the Clinton system of government.
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Beacool
(30,247 posts)The only place left to vote after June 7 is DC on June 14, and he sure as heck is not going to win there.
samson212
(83 posts)Hillary will be the nominee.
samson212
(83 posts)Seems obvious. What is your confusion?
thereismore
(13,326 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)I'm sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils when it comes to selecting a president. The chance of having a guy like Bernie as our candidate is refreshing and makes me feel optimistic about our nation's future.
Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would support Hillary Clinton. Apparently these people are able to overlook her positions on war and her corporate support. It totally blows my mind that these people consider themselves to be "democrats". A party for war and corporations isn't the party for me.
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)it applies to your side.
840high
(17,196 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)tonyt53
(5,737 posts)Bjornsdotter
(6,123 posts)....I see it that those who have the least are willing to support someone who will fight for them.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)EdwardBernays
(3,343 posts)You mean Trump won.
Congrats.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Money if you believe trump will win. .go for it if you truly believe.
Gothmog
(145,091 posts)OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)but what is he going to next week after the party, President and press declare Clinton the presumed nominee?
I mean, there are no more elections and the talk will quickly move to the GE. And since the Trump campaign is broke and can not get party money until after their convention the Clinton camp will pour money into ads setting the tone and taking the initiative in the GE.
Clinton will ignore him as will the party. I guess he can keep having rallies, but to what end?
avaistheone1
(14,626 posts)LOL. Time to give it a rest.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I asked a serious question. How do you keep campaigning after the voting is done?
And you are right, I have no crystal ball. If the media has moved on to the GE candidates as it always has after each party had their presumptive candidate I just do not know what Bernie will do for the next 5 weeks.
You certainly will not be on this website touting his candidacy.
I guess he will continue to Have rallies. And trying to score interviews. But if does not play his cards just right he will come off looking like a bitter old man.
Time will tell.