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LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:29 PM Jun 2016

Bernie Sanders Says He Has the Money to Campaign Beyond California Primary

Source: NY Times

SPRECKELS, Calif. — Bernie Sanders signaled Wednesday that he would continue his presidential campaign beyond the California primary next week, saying he had the money to keep running until the Democratic National Convention next month.

During a news conference while campaigning in California, the Vermont senator said he already had plans to host events in Washington next week and to lobby superdelegates to withdraw their support from Hillary Clinton and back him instead. He added that he felt confident he can win California’s primary on Tuesday and that Mrs. Clinton was campaigning in the state because of polls showing the two locked in a tight race there. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll released on Wednesday shows the race in a statistical tie.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/02/us/politics/bernie-sanders-campaign-california-primary.html

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Bernie Sanders Says He Has the Money to Campaign Beyond California Primary (Original Post) LiberalElite Jun 2016 OP
Why? liberal N proud Jun 2016 #1
Every delegate counts. n/t TonyPDX Jun 2016 #8
When the polls are closed and all the delegates have been elected, what's he buying? tinrobot Jun 2016 #16
Unpledged delegates haven't voted yet. samson212 Jun 2016 #102
It is good for democracy! Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #25
CA Bernie Ad Everyone Must Watch...Real Life...Not Celluloid BS billhicks76 Jun 2016 #78
Hart thats what Berrie has and this ad shows it awake Jun 2016 #110
To have more clout zentrum Jun 2016 #36
He has destroyed that with his constant verbal attacks on Dems liberal N proud Jun 2016 #60
I'm a dem and I don't feel attacked by his words Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #77
I've been a Democrat for more than 40 years, and I think he despises us. NNadir Jun 2016 #79
You and I are extremely different Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #80
Right. So long as you understand that you do not speak for the party, even if Sanders doesn't... NNadir Jun 2016 #81
And you also don't speak for the party. Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #83
Running for president is the ultimate in ego. christx30 Jun 2016 #87
What part of Primary election process do you not get? LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #89
He has given me hope that the Dems will once, again, be for The People. Duval Jun 2016 #90
yes 840high Jun 2016 #91
If you count votes, he lost period. If you count delegates, he lost period. NNadir Jun 2016 #96
Everyone has an opinion LiberalLovinLug Jun 2016 #98
You know it's not over yet, right? samson212 Jun 2016 #109
It's over, except in the minds of people doing "Bernie Math." NNadir Jun 2016 #123
FDR would have voted for Bernie. FDR had a Socialist VP for four years - Henry Wallace. Bone up. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #113
No one knows who FDR would have voted for. former9thward Jun 2016 #116
I suggest you read history before speaking for FDR. NNadir Jun 2016 #117
Oh man, well said! nt samson212 Jun 2016 #104
He doesn't despise the party…. zentrum Jun 2016 #100
To him, you're a Republican. This is all about Ideology for Bernie, with maybe a tinge of regret OnDoutside Jun 2016 #115
Neither do I wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #84
As a life long Dem, I am sick of it. liberal N proud Jun 2016 #95
This video exemplifies what we as Bernie supporters are all about Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #97
That was all erased when Bernie went negative liberal N proud Jun 2016 #120
You are in some bizarre dream world Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #121
I forgot that I entered into Bernieland liberal N proud Jun 2016 #128
Bernie went negative? avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #124
I forgot, I must be in Bernieland liberal N proud Jun 2016 #127
What are the specific transformations within the Democratic party LanternWaste Jun 2016 #99
I am glad that he has the funds, sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #2
Why wouldn't he have money, he hasn't been giving anything to any of the down ballot candidates. dubyadiprecession Jun 2016 #3
When I give - as I did last night Plucketeer Jun 2016 #5
When Bernie gets the nomination???? Beacool Jun 2016 #64
The millionaire who's running against the billionaire should do that. n/t TonyPDX Jun 2016 #9
Lmao warrprayer Jun 2016 #37
When the Democratic Party becomes democratic and isn't playing libdem4life Jun 2016 #10
That is false. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #11
He is fundraising for them. But you knew that, right? jillan Jun 2016 #15
We gave our money to Bernie, not to down-ballot candidates. JDPriestly Jun 2016 #39
Several of his fundraiser emails.... ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #43
not true NJCher Jun 2016 #48
Liar. I've given to the down ticket candidates he suggested trudyco Jun 2016 #67
Oh yes he has! padfun Jun 2016 #94
so if actual voters have given Hillary the majority of votes then he's going keep running? TeamPooka Jun 2016 #4
Defying the will Plucketeer Jun 2016 #6
No, the previous poster was correct. Beacool Jun 2016 #65
C'mon FBI ! Plucketeer Jun 2016 #66
C'mon stop dreaming! Beacool Jun 2016 #73
As if the process was fair Geronimoe Jun 2016 #27
but Hillary said..... grasswire Jun 2016 #55
Whoa. Clintonites Reading This? billhicks76 Jun 2016 #57
That poll is odd. I couldn't find anything anywhere about the racial background pnwmom Jun 2016 #7
I am so proud of a Democratic candidate with such spirit. ananda Jun 2016 #12
Hear! Hear! avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #126
Bernie's ego has destroyed him Renew Deal Jun 2016 #13
The Smear Bernie Meme Du Jour. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #14
How is that a smear? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #17
Trump has a big ego,. Bernie is a humble gentle honest man. You were implying that Bernie has Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #21
No one has an ego like Trump Renew Deal Jun 2016 #22
What an utterly ridiculous statement. The primaries are not over. The convention has not been Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #29
It's long been over Renew Deal Jun 2016 #31
Indictment is coming......................... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #32
If you click your heels together. Renew Deal Jun 2016 #33
Mean just plain mean Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #34
You're wishing for an indictment and calling me mean? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #35
Calling Bernie an egoist is mean. You can vote for criminals all day long. A criminal Bernie is not! Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #38
We'll see. He has a lot of issues with the FEC. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #50
Oh my side..... Dont call me Shirley Jun 2016 #111
Are you in California? JDPriestly Jun 2016 #40
I agree. Anything under 85-15 Bernie is great Renew Deal Jun 2016 #41
I am... ThinkCritically Jun 2016 #46
you're projecting NJCher Jun 2016 #49
We should be so lucky Geronimoe Jun 2016 #28
A "fighter" with no accomplishments other than getting elected Renew Deal Jun 2016 #30
McCain feels the Bern as he said in a hearing on the VA JDPriestly Jun 2016 #42
How is he "destroyed"? grasswire Jun 2016 #62
Riding on top of the world? NobodyHere Jun 2016 #69
you are not paying much attention to news. grasswire Jun 2016 #70
Which news am I not paying attention to? NobodyHere Jun 2016 #71
well, right THERE you are misinformed. nt grasswire Jun 2016 #72
How so? NobodyHere Jun 2016 #74
I just donated, take em down Bernie! LizetteWest Jun 2016 #18
As long as Bernie is running for me, the least I can do is continue to donate, woodsprite Jun 2016 #58
I did too Mnpaul Jun 2016 #75
Same here wallyworld2 Jun 2016 #86
The real issues over the trump mumble jumbie need to be heard. kimbutgar Jun 2016 #19
Fantastic! Equinox Moon Jun 2016 #20
Sanders is lying about a contested convention to keep the small dollar donations flowing Gothmog Jun 2016 #23
I am so GLAD I donated to Bernie! Skwmom Jun 2016 #24
Clinton's Closing Argument To Superdelegates slipslidingaway Jun 2016 #26
Why shouldn't he? This thing LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #44
The indictment fairy is not going to save Bernie. nt SunSeeker Jun 2016 #51
He makes me proud to be a Dem. Gregorian Jun 2016 #45
K & R Nyan Jun 2016 #47
Will there be enough leftinportland Jun 2016 #52
Nope. Ask Goldman Sachs, I'm sure they will add to their down payment. n/t ebayfool Jun 2016 #56
Probably not, but the Clinton Foundation will donate to cover any deficit woodsprite Jun 2016 #59
.+1 840high Jun 2016 #92
hes burning his bridges MFM008 Jun 2016 #53
Not if they're assholes who don't believe in anything but only understand the kind of payoffs that highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #61
Campaign where??? Beacool Jun 2016 #63
There's a thing happening in Philadelphia next month... nt samson212 Jun 2016 #107
So? Beacool Jun 2016 #118
So that's where he'll be campaigning samson212 Jun 2016 #122
"a nationwide ban on fracking in the Democratic platform" wouldn't that be nice. nt thereismore Jun 2016 #68
I sure hope he keeps going Victor_c3 Jun 2016 #76
PT Barnum was certainly correct dlwickham Jun 2016 #82
What a shame that LiberalElite Jun 2016 #85
oh snap! 840high Jun 2016 #93
That's good news, but I'll bet he, us, could use a little more help... FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #88
Some of his followers sent in their allowance tonyt53 Jun 2016 #101
You see that as an insult Bjornsdotter Jun 2016 #105
No campaign is left.. Hillary won beachbum bob Jun 2016 #103
And by that EdwardBernays Jun 2016 #108
Plenty of online betting sites you can triple your beachbum bob Jun 2016 #112
The fact that Sanders is not announcing fundraising numbers tells me that donations has crashed Gothmog Jun 2016 #106
That's a good point. Though I thought he'd take the time out to do his taxes. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #114
Not being snarky... GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #119
Your crystal ball is broken. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #125
Hey now, GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #129

samson212

(83 posts)
102. Unpledged delegates haven't voted yet.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:38 PM
Jun 2016

I suppose he could be trying to get voters to put pressure on them?

awake

(3,226 posts)
110. Hart thats what Berrie has and this ad shows it
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:21 PM
Jun 2016

It show that Berrie understands the problem and untill you see the problem you can not begain to soleve it

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
36. To have more clout
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:00 AM
Jun 2016

.....on the party platform and afterwards on the Democratic party. Well worth the fight. He's transforming the party from within which was desperately needed.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
79. I've been a Democrat for more than 40 years, and I think he despises us.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jun 2016

This is all about his ego; he wants to join Trump in attacking the Democratic Party and its nominee.

What I find interesting is that for all his talk about respecting the will of the people, he is now working to overturn it.

At first I had some sympathy for his intentions, but I've lost all respect for him and his massive ego. There was an interesting interview with Howard Dean some weeks ago about how easy it is to get carried away with one's apparent support, the cheering crowds, the ebullience and enthusiasm while not recognizing that one is still in the minority.

Dean, however, had integrity that Sanders clearly lacks. He worked to build the part, not to destroy it.

Sanders knows nothing about building, he only knows how to tear things down. That makes him unworthy of either support or respect within the Democratic Party.

He should go away.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
81. Right. So long as you understand that you do not speak for the party, even if Sanders doesn't...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

...get it that he doesn't either, I have no problem with that.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
87. Running for president is the ultimate in ego.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:46 PM
Jun 2016

"This country is messed up all to hell, and I'm the one that's going to fix it!"

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
89. What part of Primary election process do you not get?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jun 2016

Many joke about the crowning of the Inevitable One. You actually believe in it! lol

The will of the people? He has won most of the last States. The momentum is one his side. If anything, the will of the people is that Hillary step off. The will of the people, of the Democratic people, is that they hold a primary at least every 8 years to elect a candidate. And that process is not over, despite some of you wishing wishing wishing it was so. I'm sure you'd have just preferred to crown Ms. Clinton months ago and that Bernie had ever run. But...he did.

And many think that the party is already being destroyed from within, for years already. Bernie is working to put it back together as it should be, back to the real Democratic Party ie. FDR, representing ALL of us. Sanders is building it back up. Sorry you don't want to be a part of it.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
96. If you count votes, he lost period. If you count delegates, he lost period.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 07:12 AM
Jun 2016

Wherever he lost, he or his supporters cried "fraud."

He can't believe that anyone disagrees with him, because he's rather solipsistic.

I am voting for Ms. Clinton next week, proudly, particularly after her remarks yesterday. She is experienced, she is capable, knowledgeable and smart. In a rational world, she should have been seen as inevitable. She, like all human beings, has some flaws which the far right, and now the far left, trumpet to the point of obscenity, but she was, is, and will remain the best candidate put before the American people by a wide margin.

While I had some respect for Mr. Sanders originally because of his views on income inequality - although I extend my concern far beyond the borders of the US - I have always thought his environmental and energy policies disastrous, and never considered him a serious candidate.

I am very, very, very bored - when not amused - with the Sanders crowd raising the issue of FDR. They seem to be entirely unaware of history.

Sanders is no FDR, not even close. FDR was a lifelong Democrat; and was served by a capable - actually more capable than he was himself - woman, his wife, who by the way, took as much flack from the right wing as Ms. Clinton did when she was living in the White House, and still went on to be recorded as one of the greatest Democrats of the 20th century.. I note that Ms. Clinton will be similarly served by a successful and experienced spouse, which is not the reason to vote for her, but is a nice ad on.

Losers who cannot accept a clear loss in a campaign like this one are not worthy of respect; and at this point, I have very little respect for Bernard Sanders.

Have a nice day.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
98. Everyone has an opinion
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:42 AM
Jun 2016

As long as you realize that you are in the minority. Just like the majority on DU, most Democrats across the country want Bernie to stay in the race.

https://morningconsult.com/2016/06/01/poll-democrats-want-sanders-stay-race/

A national survey of 2,001 registered voters taken last week (see toplines and crosstabs) shows 57 percent of respondents said the Vermont independent should stay in the race, compared with 28 percent who said he should drop out and 15 percent who didn’t know or had no opinion.


I know you really really really really want your candidate to be fast tracked, and she should be inevitable, but you are going to have to wait a little longer. And while you wait, if you really do want Her Inevitableness to go beyond the primaries, then its best not to antagonize half the Democrats with Trumpish putdowns like "loser", before its a reality.

samson212

(83 posts)
109. You know it's not over yet, right?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:12 PM
Jun 2016

You know there is ample evidence of fraud, right?

In what way do you think his environmental and energy policies are disastrous? I think they're the bees' knees!

"FDR was a lifelong Democrat" -- Bernie has voted with Democrats throughout his career. He was an independent because the DNC has slid so far away from FDR-era ideals.

"was served by a capable ... woman, his wife" -- are you impugning Jane Sanders? Or FDR? Just trying to be clear, here. The policies of FDR and BS are very similar, that's where the comparison comes from. Do you disagree with that argument? Or do you just think that FDR was somehow a better person? I don't get it.

"Losers who cannot accept a clear loss in a campaign like this one are not worthy of respect" -- I think that this has been a pretty close race. How do you figure it's a "clear" loss? Are you including the unpledged delegates who announced their support before Bernie entered the race? Are you assuming that, because the number "3 million" sounds really big, Hillary's way ahead? Bernie has about 31.5% of the total delegates, and Hillary has about 37% (I'm not including unpledged delegates because they haven't voted yet). 16% of pledged delegates have not been elected yet, and the 15% of delegates who are unpledged will not vote until July. That's 30% of the vote still outstanding. You know that, typically, primary elections are overwhelmingly in one candidate's favor, right? That this cycle and 2008 are outliers? Yes, it seems likely that Clinton will win, as she has the lead. But I don't think that Bernie staying in represents hubris -- it's not over yet!

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
123. It's over, except in the minds of people doing "Bernie Math."
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:19 AM
Jun 2016

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After Tuesday, Sanders will be running, like Trump, against the [i[formal Democratic nominee, which in my view, he has been doing for the last several months.

I find this entirely consistent with his entire behavior since the beginning.

I don't regard him as a Democrat, and yes, the loss is pretty clear, and no, Bernie Sanderx is not FDR, not even close, and it's tiresome and silly to say he is.

I'm not involved in a fantasy, and I couldn't care less about Jane Sanders and no, she could neither professionally or intellectually shine Eleanor Roosevelt's shoes.

Have a nice weekend.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
116. No one knows who FDR would have voted for.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:06 PM
Jun 2016

FDR got rid of Wallace when it appeared he may die in a 4th term. Wallace supported Eisenhower and Nixon in future elections.

NNadir

(33,512 posts)
117. I suggest you read history before speaking for FDR.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 05:51 PM
Jun 2016

FDR notoriously private about his personal opinions and took little interest in any of his Vice Presidents, but famously made a call to a meeting which was being held with Harry S. Truman, bellowing (so Truman could hear it) "Did you sign up that fellow Truman yet?"

Harry S. Truman became President in 1945. You could, in fact, look it up.

Henry Wallace ran for President in 1948 trying to sabotage the Truman campaign while announcing that the Marshall Plan was run by "warlords and money changers" Henry Wallace's 1948 Presidential Campaign and the Future of Postwar Liberalism THOMAS W. DEVINE Copyright Date: 2013 Published by: University of North Carolina Press cf page 95

Um...the Marshall Plan.

He was severely rebuked by none other than Eleanor Roosevelt for this rather bizarre stance, as well as his stance on Stalin's 1947 engineering of a coup in 1947 in Czechoslovakia. He also opposed the Berlin Airlift.

Um, Wallace didn't defeat Truman in 1948, nor did he manage to throw the election to the shoo-in Thomas Dewey.

In the 1948 campaign, no less than Eleanor Roosevelt - who was in my view the greatest Democrat of the 20th Century, greater even than her husband - called Henry Wallace to assure him that liberals were definitely not behind him. (Ibid, Devine, page 48.)

(Now I do recognize that the Sanders campaign believes that the South won the Civil War and that therefore North Carolina is not part of the United States, but I tend to regard North Carolina and its voters as legitimate Americans, and have no problem with academic books published by the University of North Carolina Press.)

In any case, for you to announce that FDR would have "voted for Bernie" borders on the absurd, and demonstrates a historical naiveté that corresponds roughly to Wallace's naiveté, as well as that of that increasingly tiresome fool Sanders himself.

Call me a right wing ideologue - I'm unsurprised by the pro-Sanders rhetoric here and elsewhere - but I actually, um, think that the Marshall plan was, um, a good idea, a great idea in fact. Most historians agree I think.

Henry Wallace is basically a forgotten footnote in history, a place he aptly deserves, as does Senator Sanders, another hero of self-righteous types who deign to speak for everyone else, including FDR's ghost, with the confidence that they are righteous.

I'm deeply suspicious of righteousness, because too often it slips into dogma, and sometimes into delusion.

I would characterize the ability to speak for FDR about the 2016 election using at least one of the evocative nouns in the last sentence that begins with a "d."

One thing that is patently clear about FDR, is that he admired and worked closely with very strong women, one of whom happened to be his wife, if not actually - in later years - his lover. I will not speak for him - famously he was an enigma wrapped in a riddle - but I'm quite sure he would have no problem with a strong woman running for President. I could be wrong about that, but, having read extensively on Roosevelt, I think it quite plausible. I don't expect him to endorse anyone in this race however, being dead, although given the desperation of the Sanders campaign, I would not be surprised to hear that a spirit world medium in the campaign has announced such an endorsement.

Have a nice day.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
100. He doesn't despise the party….
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:28 PM
Jun 2016

……he misses the party.

Millions of us miss the party. The party of FDR.

The party that used to clearly stand for working people against corporate exploitation. But for many years, in many instances, it's been hard to tell the difference. The Koch's, for example, were one of the funders of the Clinton-founded DLC, because they loved that the Party was moving so rightward.

Bernie is an old style Democrat.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
115. To him, you're a Republican. This is all about Ideology for Bernie, with maybe a tinge of regret
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 04:29 PM
Jun 2016

for all the years he stayed on the outside. He's enjoying his moment in the sun, for as long as he can.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
84. Neither do I
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:24 PM
Jun 2016

There are problems with the Democratic party and you cannot change those problems if you don't acknowledge them.

Pandering to working people once every four years is not the same as representing them.

There is no such thing as comfortable walking shoes when it comes to actually walking with labor.

Goldman Sachs won't pay for speeches from people who do that kind of walk

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
97. This video exemplifies what we as Bernie supporters are all about
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:31 AM
Jun 2016

I hope it gives you a different perspective than "sick of it."

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
120. That was all erased when Bernie went negative
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:52 PM
Jun 2016

After he said he wouldn't.

And he hasn't let up. I cannot forgive him for the nastiness.

 

Ned_Devine

(3,146 posts)
121. You are in some bizarre dream world
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 01:09 AM
Jun 2016

I just got through watching this documentary on the Scientologists, and when I read comments like yours, it just reminds me of their true believers. Hasn't let up? What on earth are you talking about? Please don't respond.

 

avaistheone1

(14,626 posts)
124. Bernie went negative?
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jun 2016

Oh yeah about the banks! Sure and about the 1% too! That is why we love him. Bernie represents the change this country is hungry for and wants.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
99. What are the specific transformations within the Democratic party
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 01:02 PM
Jun 2016

What are the specific and desperately needed transformations within the Democratic party his running has directly and measurably changed which cannot be attributed to any other explanation?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
2. I am glad that he has the funds,
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:37 PM
Jun 2016

I contributed to him as a final effort for the
primaries more than I can afford, but thought
that he will need it for the other outstanding
states.

Keep it up, Bernie, keep it up!

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
5. When I give - as I did last night
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jun 2016

I'm giving to BERNIE. When Bernie gets the nomination, the rest of the puzzle will fall into place. And BTW, I DO give to aspirants that he favors - so there's your "downticket" support.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
10. When the Democratic Party becomes democratic and isn't playing
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:47 PM
Jun 2016

favorites...to put it mildly...then maybe he should.

Until then, he has money from we "little folk" and I don't want my small monthly donation to go for someone I don't know in some state I don't live in.

That's an Insane Idea comingled with a Snarky Reply. Find something that really matters.


JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
11. That is false.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:49 PM
Jun 2016

He has endorsed and fundraised for Zephyr Teachout, Lucy Flores, Pramila Jayapal, Tim Canova, Justin Bamberg, David Bowen, Clara Hart, Terry Alexander, Carol Ammons, Chris Pearson, Jane Kim, Joe Salazar.

This is in contrast to Hillary Clinton's fundraising where only 1% goes to the downticket.

Please stop spreading falsehoods, thanks.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
39. We gave our money to Bernie, not to down-ballot candidates.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:18 AM
Jun 2016

We want campaign finance reform not this machine that Hillary feeds with her corporate money.

We want all candidates to be publicly financed.

 

ThinkCritically

(241 posts)
43. Several of his fundraiser emails....
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:23 AM
Jun 2016

also included down ticket candidates with whom he split the donation. I've actually donated to several other candidates through his donation system. I assume if he is the nominee he will raise boat loads for down ticket candidates, especially if all democrats are on board. Not only did he help them raise the money, but they are serious contenders. One of them is Tim Canova who is running against Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Kamala Harris in California is another. Alan Grayson in Florida going after Marco Rubios seat, Pramila Jayapal to replace Jim McDermott, Zephyr Teachout to flip a republican seat in New York, and Lucy Flores to flip a republican seat in Nevada. He is also helping out state level democrats get elected as well. And he still has months to fund other democrats, especially if he gets nominated.

trudyco

(1,258 posts)
67. Liar. I've given to the down ticket candidates he suggested
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jun 2016

that people told me about right here on DU!

I'm tired of this lying talking point. Come up with a new one.
At least come up with one I can almost believe. Sheesh.

Oh. And a guy who's only taking donations from little guys shouldn't be expected to give money to down ticket nearly as much as the 100 BILLION dollar Clinton Foundation et al.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
94. Oh yes he has!
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:41 PM
Jun 2016

I get lots of emails from him and DFA to support progressive candidates. So I have sent to about 8 different ones. I wouldn't have done this before, especially since these candidates are out of state. I just want to help get more progressives in and take back what was taken from our party 20-25 years ago.

I don't think Hillary fans are donating at all. They are just relying on Goldman Sachs to do all of the giving.

TeamPooka

(24,218 posts)
4. so if actual voters have given Hillary the majority of votes then he's going keep running?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jun 2016

defying the will of the voters is an interesting campaign tactic

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
65. No, the previous poster was correct.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:57 PM
Jun 2016

Voters have spoken and have chosen Hillary over Sanders. She has a large pledged delegate advantage and is also far ahead in the popular vote. Hillary will be the nominee.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
55. but Hillary said.....
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 03:02 AM
Jun 2016

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- For the second time in three days, Sen. Hillary Clinton told reporters that the pledged delegates awarded based on vote totals in their state are not bound to abide by election results.

Sen. Hillary Clinton lags behind Sen. Barack Obama in the popular vote and in pledged delegates.

It's an idea that has been floated by her or a campaign surrogate nearly half a dozen times this month.

Sen. Barack Obama leads Clinton among all Democratic delegates, 1,622 to 1,485, in the latest CNN count. Among pledged delegates, Obama leads Clinton 1,413 to 1,242.

"Every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose," Clinton told Time's Mark Halperin in an interview published Wednesday.
"We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment," she said.

Clinton's remarks echoed her Monday comments to the editorial board of the Philadelphia Daily News.

"And also remember that pledged delegates in most states are not pledged," she said Monday. "You know there is no requirement that anybody vote for anybody. They're just like superdelegates."

Clinton also made similar comments in a Newsweek interview published two weeks ago.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
7. That poll is odd. I couldn't find anything anywhere about the racial background
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:45 PM
Jun 2016

of the respondents in the sample -- which is always relevant. Did it over sample or under sample any group? No way to tell.

I haven't seen a poll this whole primary season that didn't report the respondents' races. Very strange.

ananda

(28,856 posts)
12. I am so proud of a Democratic candidate with such spirit.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:56 PM
Jun 2016

If Gore and Kerry had had that spirit, we
wouldn't be in the horrible situation of so
much corporate power and cronyism.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
21. Trump has a big ego,. Bernie is a humble gentle honest man. You were implying that Bernie has
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:21 PM
Jun 2016

an ego, such as trump. That IS a smear! Bernie smear du jour!

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
22. No one has an ego like Trump
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:22 PM
Jun 2016

But Bernie's problem is he can't accept he lost. He is too perfect and righteous to lose. That's ego.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
29. What an utterly ridiculous statement. The primaries are not over. The convention has not been
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:34 PM
Jun 2016

held. Neither candidate will have the required amount of delegates.

The ego resides with miss "IIIII'm going to set up a private server in mmmmyyyyy basement while doing the people's work so the people do not know what IIIII am up to". That is EGO!

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
31. It's long been over
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:41 PM
Jun 2016

Bernie hasn't been willing to accept it. He's going to fall much further behind this weekend. Next week looks like a wash if he's lucky. He'll will never be as close as he is today. If he stays where he is now, he needs to go from -522 Super Delegates to +493 Super Delegates. It's not going to happen.

Next week Hillary will correctly be declared the winner. Obama and Warren will come out and say the primary is over. The weight of the race will crush him if he doesn't choose to do the right things. It will be no less over despite his ego.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
35. You're wishing for an indictment and calling me mean?
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jun 2016

Let's be serious here. You wish something bad happens to someone else and you're calling me the mean one.

 

ThinkCritically

(241 posts)
46. I am...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:45 AM
Jun 2016

and all the conversations I hear around here are about Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump. I've only met 4 actual real live Hillary supporters at a Bernie rally. There were 30,000 people at that rally. I heard Donald Trump had a rally here in Sacramento today and 5000 showed. Bill Clinton had a rally here about a week ago and 1000 showed. My boss is a Trump supporter but every other person there is a Bernie supporter. It's incredible how much energy is going on here for the election.

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
28. We should be so lucky
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:33 PM
Jun 2016

to have a president that doesn't cave in and is a true fighter. The Democrats are notorious for being weak.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
42. McCain feels the Bern as he said in a hearing on the VA
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:22 AM
Jun 2016

plan that he and Bernie put together cooperating with each other.

Honestly! The complete negativity of Hillary fans is quite amazing.

I couldn't be that negative, totally negative no matter how hard I tried.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
62. How is he "destroyed"?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:44 PM
Jun 2016

He's riding on top of the world, as anyone can plainly see.

Beloved by many millions, for his integrity and decency and human spirit.

True to his values all of his life.

On the cusp of an historic campaign of the people.

You will notice that there are no bags under HIS eyes. No lack of energy. He has no trouble sleeping, obviously. He sleeps the sleep of the man without guile.

 

NobodyHere

(2,810 posts)
71. Which news am I not paying attention to?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

The news I read talk about Hillary having millions of more votes than Bernie.

woodsprite

(11,910 posts)
58. As long as Bernie is running for me, the least I can do is continue to donate,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:20 AM
Jun 2016

phone bank, and get the word out. I'm right there with you!

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
19. The real issues over the trump mumble jumbie need to be heard.
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

I respect Bernie Sanders pushing the real issues over bs MSM made up outrages.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
20. Fantastic!
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:10 PM
Jun 2016

I have donated monthly for Bernie and will continue.

Thank you for working so hard for all of us Bernie!

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
26. Clinton's Closing Argument To Superdelegates
Wed Jun 1, 2016, 11:29 PM
Jun 2016

May 28, 2008

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2008/05/clintons-closing-argument-to-superdelegates/53314/

"In a final plea to undeclared Democratic superdelegates, Sen. Hillary Clinton points to her lead in the popular vote, some recent polling showing her strength against John McCain, and surveys showing that voters believe she is ready to serve as commander in chief..."

ONE big difference, Obama was not being investigated by the FBI, he did not have the 'trust' issue and possible legal issues that Clinton now faces.


LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
44. Why shouldn't he? This thing
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:27 AM
Jun 2016

won't be a done deal until the convention at the end of July. Plenty can happen between now and then. There's a pesky little FBI investigation underway and it doesn't involve Bernie. That alone should keep him in the race.

woodsprite

(11,910 posts)
59. Probably not, but the Clinton Foundation will donate to cover any deficit
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:23 AM
Jun 2016

then take it off on their taxes.

MFM008

(19,804 posts)
53. hes burning his bridges
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jun 2016

one day he will have to go back to work. He wont get cooperation from republicans OR democrats.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
54. Not if they're assholes who don't believe in anything but only understand the kind of payoffs that
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 02:53 AM
Jun 2016

are so prevalent in the Clinton system of government.

Response to LiberalElite (Original post)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
63. Campaign where???
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

The only place left to vote after June 7 is DC on June 14, and he sure as heck is not going to win there.



Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
76. I sure hope he keeps going
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

I'm sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils when it comes to selecting a president. The chance of having a guy like Bernie as our candidate is refreshing and makes me feel optimistic about our nation's future.

Honestly, I have no idea why anyone would support Hillary Clinton. Apparently these people are able to overlook her positions on war and her corporate support. It totally blows my mind that these people consider themselves to be "democrats". A party for war and corporations isn't the party for me.

Bjornsdotter

(6,123 posts)
105. You see that as an insult
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 02:47 PM
Jun 2016

....I see it that those who have the least are willing to support someone who will fight for them.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
112. Plenty of online betting sites you can triple your
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 03:34 PM
Jun 2016

Money if you believe trump will win. .go for it if you truly believe.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
119. Not being snarky...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jun 2016

but what is he going to next week after the party, President and press declare Clinton the presumed nominee?

I mean, there are no more elections and the talk will quickly move to the GE. And since the Trump campaign is broke and can not get party money until after their convention the Clinton camp will pour money into ads setting the tone and taking the initiative in the GE.

Clinton will ignore him as will the party. I guess he can keep having rallies, but to what end?

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
129. Hey now,
Sat Jun 4, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jun 2016

I asked a serious question. How do you keep campaigning after the voting is done?

And you are right, I have no crystal ball. If the media has moved on to the GE candidates as it always has after each party had their presumptive candidate I just do not know what Bernie will do for the next 5 weeks.

You certainly will not be on this website touting his candidacy.

I guess he will continue to Have rallies. And trying to score interviews. But if does not play his cards just right he will come off looking like a bitter old man.

Time will tell.

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