Nebraska superdelegate chooses Sanders

[ForgoTheConsequence]

Source: Lincoln Journal Star

Maureen Monahan of Omaha, an uncommitted superdelegate to the Democratic national convention, announced Thursday she will support Bernie Sanders for her party's presidential nomination.

"I am encouraging all still unpledged superdelegates to support Senator Sanders as well," Monahan said in a written statement.

Sanders, the Vermont senator, won Nebraska's Democratic presidential caucus in March, defeating Hillary Clinton with 57 percent of the vote.

Read more: http://journalstar.com/news/state-and-regional/federal-politics/nebraska-superdelegate-chooses-sanders/article_1900af09-7344-5b13-91d2-8c7af04d02d1.html#comments

[thereismore]

1. Seems like something is afoot. nt

[dinkytron]

53. Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.

[FailureToCommunicate]

2. You don't need a weatherman to know which way the winds (of change) are blowing

[Omaha Steve]

3. I posted about her a couple weeks ago in the Bernie Group

I know her too BTW!

[roguevalley]

14. hug her for me, Steve. I think when HRC loses the California vote (MY HOME STATE!) this will

become a flood. Someone on list already reported that a lot of them plan to do this, even committed. I wish i could remember the thread.

[jwirr]

44. Give her our thanks. Smart woman.

[SmittynMo]

4. Showtime

is just around the corner. Storms are brewing and the wind is coming from the opposite direction. Hmmmm, I wonder what that means?

[William769]

5. I'm confused.

Am I to understand this Super delegate counts along with the other 44 that support Senator Sanders, but the 544 That support Hillary Don't count. is this correct? or is this the new math I keep hearing about? I just can't keep up.

[rbrnmw]

9. +a zillion

[William769]

10. Back atcha.

[George II]

12. Funny how that works, isn't it?

[roguevalley]

15. no. It means that this delegate waited for the state vote before deciding, something 544 didn't do

and that includes the sob's from my state which went 81.6% for Sanders. Of course, you know that already.

[LeFleur1]

17. Wa. State Primary VOTE was for Hillary

The caucuses ( many fewer people) were for Bernie. So will the votes of the most people win the delegates?

[Lucky Luciano]

32. You know full well that the caucus decides everything.

[pnwmom]

37. Right. The party bigwigs in NE and WA decided to give the elitist, non-representative

caucuses the power to assign all the delegates, instead of the much larger, more representative and inclusive primaries.

And for some reason Bernie and his supporters support this -- even though in Washington, the voters strongly approved a referendum replacing the caucuses with a primary. And in a power grab, the party leadership went to court to assert its right to ignore the new law and to continue to assign all delegates through caucuses.

So WA voters get both -- the caucuses and the primary our taxes have to pay for, even though it doesn't assign any delegates. (The GOP does use it -- they were more responsive than the Dems, for once.)

Fortunately for the nearly 800,000 voters who participated in our primary (vs. the 230K in the caucuses), none of our superdelegates have announced that they will be switching from Hillary to Bernie as a result of the elitist caucuses.

[Lucky Luciano]

38. I prefer primaries, but if the caucus decided everything,

...then some primary vote that is run later means nothing. I don't even know the point of it. If I lived in WA, I wouldn't bother going to the primary either since it is meaningless.

[Lord Magus]

49. Isn't all voting by mail in WA?

That would mean there's no need to go to a primary. You'd just have to walk to your mailbox. Couldn't be an easier way of expressing your support for a candidate. As such, even with the primary not counting, I can't think of any reason not to cast the ballot.

[pnwmom]

51. The Bernie voters who voted in the primary -- more than twice as many as in the caucus --

didn't think it meant nothing. And neither did the Hillary voters. And neither did the super delegates, who understand that it reflected the will of the voters, even if the party leaders chose to ignore it. They even announced that they would be waiting for the results of the primary vote before they made their decisions.

No, it wasn't meaningless, except as another chance for the state leaders to demonstrate their disrespect for WA voters. They had the nerve to pass around envelopes at the caucuses asking for money to defray the expenses -- even though we were already paying for an actual primary through our taxes.

[pnwmom]

36. So this delegate decided to ignore the primary vote that Hillary won --

even though nothing required her to ignore the will of the primary voters, in favor of the caucus voters. That's her choice, but it doesn't sound like very democratic.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/clinton-wins-nebraska-democratic-primary-223042

Clinton wins Nebraska Democratic primary

Hillary Clinton won the Nebraska Democratic primary on Tuesday, but she’s not getting any delegates out of it.

[Cha]

22. Yep, that's the BS Math we keep hearing about..

You're back in fine form~

[William769]

33. "You're back in fine form"

I've been re-energized!

[Cha]

35. That's the way to do it!

Another

Hillary!

[sheshe2]

25. Snap! nt

[secondwind]

39. Those who support HRC can change their mind.. as you can see from this OP

[Renew Deal]

45. Shouldn't she support Hillary since Hillary won the primary?

[BainsBane]

6. If all superdelegates in states he won supported him

He would still trail by 200 in the SD count and nearly 300 in the pledged delegate count. Bernie's problem remains the same regardless: He hasn't won enough VOTES and as much as he and some of his supporters may wish otherwise, votes of actual citizens still determine the nominee. The party leadership is not going to overturn elections to install Bernie as the nominee just because he wants it or just because he claims his voters are more equal than the majority.

[George II]

13. Precisely. I spelled all of that out here this morning:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512108004

No matter how you look at it, Clinton wins.

here is the way the superdelegates would vote based on all three, let's call them, theories:

Winner Take All (candidate winning a state gets them all):

Clinton - 247, Sanders - 124, Clinton +123

Proportional to delegates earned:

Clinton - 203, Sanders - 183, Clinton +20

Currently:

Clinton - 417, Sanders - 39, Clinton +345

[JimDandy]

28. FAIL. No one has ever given either one of these as a reason to vote for him.

The party leadership is not going to overturn elections to install Bernie as the nominee just because he wants it or just because he claims his voters are more equal than the majority.

[wallyworld2]

7. This is

news to M$NBC.

Chris Matthews is already calling it for hillary

The new Fair and Balanced cable network

[SomeGuyInEagan]

40. Hasn't Chris Matthews been calling it for Clinton since 2007?

Just sayin' ... he tends to operate from a place of emotion and caffeine.

[wallyworld2]

47. He's been calling for a lot of things

Chris Matthews: Rand Paul Will Be Republican Presidential Nominee in 2016

After all this is what he does for a living......

[SomeGuyInEagan]

48. Yep ... he is in his element.

And I am glad I only read about him from time-to-time. He is among the tooliest of tools.

[wallyworld2]

50. tooliest for sure

A tools tool.

[jillan]

8. It's beginning. There were more yesterday and today.

[snooper2]

42. IT IS HUGH! He can turn this around still!

or not

[Tarc]

11. The hypocrisy of the Sanders camp on superdelegates continues

Which I touch upon here; http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512112757

[LiberalElite]

19. Oh, an emiissary from an alternate universe... bye bye nt

[Tarc]

20. Are you going somewhere?

[SunSeeker]

16. So now delegates do count before the convention vote.

Another Sanders flip flop.

[Omaha Steve]

21. Hillary flipped on supers too

It was in all the press at the time.

http://www.npr.org/news/graphics/2008/june/clinton_candidacy/hillary_timeline_09.html

May 31, 2008 The Democratic National Committee's Rules and Bylaws Committee decides to give only half-votes to delegates from Michigan and Florida. Both states held unsanctioned primaries, which Clinton won. The move dashes Clinton's hope that a rule change would help her close the delegate gap with Obama

http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20080529/Opinion/805290418

The tight primary fight between Obama and Clinton is the reason why this has become a radioactive issue. Despite public statements to the contrary last year and now that Obama is on the verge of clinching the Democratic presidential nomination, Clinton has insisted on counting the beauty contest votes as legitimate and seating the delegations according to those votes.

While claiming to speak for the disenfranchised voters in Florida and Michigan — and while counting these votes into her overall popular vote total to make the case for her nomination — Clinton often fails to note the obvious: These major rule changes as the contest nears the end would benefit her and her alone.

[SunSeeker]

30. Ah, the predictable deflection.

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[Omaha Steve]

34. Well I did get tired of some that kept saying Bernie wants to change the rules

But have amnesia when it came to Hillary. "Clinton often fails to note the obvious: These major rule changes as the contest nears the end would benefit her and her alone."

[Ed Suspicious]

26. That's not what we're saying. They count when they're counted. But you'll have to excuse us . . .

You all have been beating us over the head with super delegate numbers for a year now.

[JimDandy]

29. + a million

And I'm sure their beatings of us will continue...

[SunSeeker]

31. Reality has been beating up on you. nt

[Voice for Peace]

18. well apparently they haven't heard it's over! Hell, it's been over since 2011! Stick them ALL under

a bus.

The new superdelegates trickling in are most certainly not following the
election very closely! or they just can't do math!!

NOT.SMART. not going to be any place on earth they'll be able to hide from
the consequences of their betrayal.. lack of forethought, to be kind, but
approaching treason. Dumb!

But most of all, what arrogant gall! to recklessly waste perfectly good
superdelegateness on a lost cause!!!

[appalachiablue]

23. K & R. Excellent news. Thank You Maureen Monahan of Nebraska!

[laserhaas]

24. w0o h0o ..more and more and more

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[JimDandy]

27. An honorable superdelegate voting with her constituents. Yay!!

Can't say the same thing for either of my senators: Patty McMurray and Maria Cantrell, the TPP senators. Uggh. Voted for each twice. Never voting for them again. Too late to primary McMurray this year, but they are going to be primaried next time around with good Progressives.

[Uncle Joe]

41. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, ForgoTheConsequence.

[Enthusiast]

43. Kicked and recommended! nt

[Iwillnevergiveup]

46. Omaha Steve

I know YOU are happy.

K&R

[tonyt53]

52. But I thought Bernie despised superdelegates so much , that he didn't want the support of any.

But on a more meaningful note, she is but ONE (1) and she was uncommitted anyway. Even the other unpledged delegates cannot bail out Bernie.

[Blue_Tires]

54. Changes nothing in the grand scheme of things, but yeah, okay....