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Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:32 PM Jun 2016

U.S. judge delays deposition, directs Clinton aide to detail immunity deal in email probe

Source: Washington Post

By Spencer S. Hsu June 3 at 7:49 PM

A federal judge Friday postponed a deposition of a former State Department staffer who helped set up Hillary Clinton’s private email server, seeking more information about the aide’s immunity agreement with federal prosecutors and his claim to a Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination in a civil lawsuit.

Attorneys for technology specialist Bryan Pagliano had also asked U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan of the District to bar audio- or video-recording of the deposition, originally planned for Monday before lawyers with the conservative legal advocacy group Judicial Watch. The group is seeking to have Pagliano answer questions under oath as part of its lawsuit probing whether Clinton’s email arrangement as secretary of state thwarted the Freedom of Information Act and release of public records.

Sullivan did not rule on that request to bar recording Pagliano’s deposition session. Instead, Sullivan directed both sides to address by June 13 the legal authority for Pagliano’s constitutional claim against self-incrimination.

“Counsel for Mr. Pagliano shall file a Memorandum of Law addressing the legal authority upon which Mr. Pagliano relies to assert his Fifth Amendment rights in this civil proceeding,” Sullivan ordered in a brief note in the court docket Friday afternoon.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/us-judge-delays-deposition-directs-clinton-aide-to-detail-immunity-deal-in-email-probe/2016/06/03/9c8a9edc-29a6-11e6-a3c4-0724e8e24f3f_story.html



I think several of us here have been wondering if/when the court would inquire about Mr. Pagliano's immunity agreement. I also think we might see some serious discussion about this judge. His past rulings, and style, among other things, are likely to be matters of interest, imo.
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U.S. judge delays deposition, directs Clinton aide to detail immunity deal in email probe (Original Post) Babel_17 Jun 2016 OP
In before "14 days" bunnies Jun 2016 #1
It's about Pagliano, the only one who's yet to cut a deal Babel_17 Jun 2016 #3
discussion by whom? grasswire Jun 2016 #2
Uh, allow me to quote myself (Edit: I'm sorry if I missed out on the excellent sarcasm) Babel_17 Jun 2016 #4
I thought grasswire was being sarcastic but idk. trudyco Jun 2016 #5
I hear it now, thanks! Babel_17 Jun 2016 #7
Sullivan? Sounds Irish to me. Pagliano? Sounds Italian to me. How can a Irish judge preside over an winstars Jun 2016 #6
One of life's mysteries Babel_17 Jun 2016 #8
I'm with the guy... ReRe Jun 2016 #9
Nothing yet beats Bush the first Babel_17 Jun 2016 #10
You're right... ReRe Jun 2016 #11
Ha, I forgot about it till you jogged my memory. And ... Babel_17 Jun 2016 #12
I don't think I've seen... ReRe Jun 2016 #13
I don't know about Shameless, but she was in both of the movies I mentioned Babel_17 Jun 2016 #14

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
3. It's about Pagliano, the only one who's yet to cut a deal
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:43 PM
Jun 2016

It might all be on him, and many of us are curious about the particulars of his immunity agreement. Just because he got immunity doesn't absolutely mean he did anything illegal, or even wrong. His lawyer could have just insisted on it as insurance. But it's not a huge leap to speculate that he might have broken the law in a manner that concerns us.

I'd like to get to the bottom of what he did.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
2. discussion by whom?
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jun 2016

He was appointed by Bill Clinton.

What is your point in questioning the propriety of a sitting judge appointed by the spouse of the principal in this case?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
4. Uh, allow me to quote myself (Edit: I'm sorry if I missed out on the excellent sarcasm)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 08:49 PM
Jun 2016

Please ignore the following if I was just too dense to catch a clever use of sarcasm. Things being the way they are, I hope you'll understand.

I think several of us here have been wondering if/when the court would inquire about Mr. Pagliano's immunity agreement. I also think we might see some serious discussion about this judge. His past rulings, and style, among other things, are likely to be matters of interest, imo.


I think the judge will come off great from that. But I do think that as the public becomes more aware of this case, and the judge's rulings, they'll want to know more about him. Given that the vast majority of people don't follow this FOIA case like we do, they'll have questions, many of which are easy to answer.

They'll ask if he has any obvious bias. An answer could be "He was appointed by Bill Clinton".

Etc.
I hope that explains things and you no longer think I was "questioning the propriety of a sitting judge".




winstars

(4,220 posts)
6. Sullivan? Sounds Irish to me. Pagliano? Sounds Italian to me. How can a Irish judge preside over an
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:01 PM
Jun 2016

Italian defendant???

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
8. One of life's mysteries
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jun 2016

Like Jerry Doyle playing Mr. Garibaldi.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Garibaldi

Michael Alfredo Garibaldi was born in the Bronx, New York, Earth.

He loves Italian food and often cuts secret deals with Babylon 5 dockworkers to bring expensive Italian foods onto the station. The deals are secret because of the disapproval of Dr. Stephen Franklin, B5's medical chief and a close friend of Garibaldi. Dr. Franklin disapproves of Garibaldi's love of fatty foods, although on at least one occasion he agrees to eat an Italian meal (bagna càuda) cooked by Garibaldi.


Who cares about that though, when he is so awesome in the part (and what does a family name really signify anyway, especially in the future).

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
9. I'm with the guy...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:20 PM
Jun 2016

... in the WaPo responses: Even though they might get indicted and even convicted, not to worry, PO will pardon them all. Just like Jerry Ford did for Nixon. Well, it could happen.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
10. Nothing yet beats Bush the first
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:28 PM
Jun 2016
December 24, 1992
Pardoned

Caspar W. Weinberger (1988 Several counts of perjury, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Elliott Abrams (1988 Two counts of unlawfully withholding information. See Iran-Contra Affair)
Duane R. Clarridge (1991 Seven counts of perjury and false statements, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Alan D. Fiers (1991 Two misdemeanor counts of withholding information from the Congress, See Iran-Contra Affair)
Clair George
(1991 Ten counts of perjury, false statements and obstruction)
(1992 two felony charges of false statements and perjury before Congress — see Iran-Contra Affair)
Robert C. McFarlane (1988 See Iran-Contra Affair)


And this is part of the reason why the crap keeps repeating itself, guys like Cheney, and lesser minions, constantly able to recycle themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_pardoned_by_George_H._W._Bush#December_24.2C_1992

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. You're right...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jun 2016

I always called it the Christmas Eve massacre of justice. I don't know why I didn't think to include that in my response while ago. I'll never ever forget it. I screamed at my TV and knew then and there that there was no justice in this whole wide world.

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
12. Ha, I forgot about it till you jogged my memory. And ...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:02 PM
Jun 2016

I just read a mention of it a few days back. To be honest, I hadn't remembered it as quite that bad.

If you get a chance to watch War Inc, check it out. Imo it sort of exists in a parallel dimension to Grosse Pointe Blank. I see it as what might have happened if Martin Blank's (John Cusack's character) life took a turn for the worse, instead of the better.

Worth it for Joan Cusack alone, lol at her all nervous about having a nice enough room for Anderson Cooper's visit ("I mean, he is a Vanderbilt and everything. There could be repercussions!&quot .



It's a little rough around the edges, but often brilliant.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
13. I don't think I've seen...
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:13 PM
Jun 2016

... any of those you mentioned. I love Joan Cusack, though, actually in anything she does. What is it about that girl? Is she still in Shameless on Showtime?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
14. I don't know about Shameless, but she was in both of the movies I mentioned
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:35 PM
Jun 2016

She played similar roles. Even Akroyd was in both and his relationship to Cusack can be said to have similarities.

Amazing cast, and an amazing soundtrack, in Grosse Pointe Blank.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119229/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_53

Lol, four Cusacks, compared to the only three Cusacks in War Inc.

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