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BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:39 AM Jun 2016

Turkey: '11 dead' in Istanbul car bomb - city governor

Source: Euronews

At least 11 people have been killed, and 36 others are wounded, in a suspected car bomb attack in Istanbul, according to the city governor.

Reports suggest a car packed with explosives was detonated by remote control as a Turkish police bus passed by in the central district of Vezneciler.

Governor Vasip Sahin told reporters near the scene that seven of the dead were police officers. Three of the wounded are in a critical condition, he added.

The blast occurred during the morning rush hour near Istanbul university and the city’s historic quarter, a major draw for tourists.

Read more: http://www.euronews.com/2016/06/07/istanbul-rocked-by-blast-reports-a-turkish-police-bus-was-targeted-and-people-wounded/



I just returned from Istanbul on Saturday. I am so sorry to hear this. I can only send messages of condolences to the many, many wonderful Turks I was able to meet and interact with personally during my two weeks+ in that country. They are in the front lines of too many conflicts as they straddle both Europe and Asia.

Turkish tourism has already been badly affected by the drastic drop in Western visitors and this will do nothing to help the situation.
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Turkey: '11 dead' in Istanbul car bomb - city governor (Original Post) BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 OP
Erdogan made the decision to indirectly support ISIS. It's his fault. DetlefK Jun 2016 #1
Damn damn Damn. Richard D Jun 2016 #2
I don't believe that I was BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #3
I so relate to that. Richard D Jun 2016 #4
Yes, I did and yes, I agree that Cappadocia is a BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #5
I agree Bragi Jun 2016 #6
Je Suis Istanbul maxsolomon Jun 2016 #7
I'm with you 100 percent! BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #8

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
1. Erdogan made the decision to indirectly support ISIS. It's his fault.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:28 AM
Jun 2016

First turkish police ignored ISIS-recruiters operating in Turkey. (ISIS issued death-threats to students. How could the police not know?)

Then Turkey mysteriously fails to stop smugglers from driving trucks with ISIS-oil into Turkey. (With neverending rumors that Erdogan's son was involved in these deals.)

Then (presumably) ISIS blows up turkish aid-volunteers in the syrian town Suruc. Does Turkey start moving against ISIS now??? Nope.

Then another major bombing-attack in Ankara. This time definitely by ISIS and the dead are opponent's of Erdogan and supporters of the Kurds. Does Turkey start moving against ISIS now????? Still nope.

Instead Turkey decides to attack the people who fight ISIS. The Kurds.

Richard D

(8,741 posts)
2. Damn damn Damn.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:36 AM
Jun 2016

I was there in that area 2 days ago. So friggin sad.
While Erdogan is responsible, it's the people that are suffering, as always seems to be the case with power grabbing politicians.
Just sad.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
3. I don't believe that I was
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:30 AM
Jun 2016

in the exact area while I was there or if I was, not at the exact spot. But I was at the bus area in Eminonu two weeks ago Saturday and thought then it would be awful if anything happened there - considering the teeming humanity in evidence.

By the way, members of that teeming humanity were very gracious to this visitor, who was trying to find out where I could purchase a bus ticket to my destination in Istanbul. I knew the numbers of the bus(es) that I needed to take and where those bus stops were. But I had neglected to purchase a bus pass in Sultanahmet, as I should have. They were very patient with this visitor whose Turkish didn't consist of much else other than "Hello," "Goodbye," "Please" and "Thank you" - always good beginnings, but nothing much to follow up with.

Still, with lots of pantomime from me and much patience on the part of the Turks, my problem got solved. After that, I felt as if I could handle - almost - anything.

Richard D

(8,741 posts)
4. I so relate to that.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 07:26 AM
Jun 2016

All the Turkish people I had contact with were wonderful and very helpful.
This was my 4th trip to Istanbul and some other areas of Turkey. One of my favorite destinations.
I have many dear friends there already.

Did you get to Cappadocia? If not, it's a must visit place.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
5. Yes, I did and yes, I agree that Cappadocia is a
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 08:02 AM
Jun 2016

must-visit place. We did a balloon ride (3:30 am wake-up call!!!) and not only did I enjoy the wonderful view, but was impressed with all the logistics coordination between the team on the balloon and their ground support so that our "captain" was able to land the balloon right on its trailer. We also spent time visiting underground cities and meeting people living in the area (not in the underground cities any longer, LOL) - some of whom have taken in Syrian refugee families.

We also visited the Antalya region (we were advised not to go into the city) and spent a couple days at the Mediterranean beach at Side - but stayed well away from the BIG tourist hotels, preferring the homier older section right next to the old Agora. We were right next to an extended Turkish family on the beach. Grandmom was wearing a headscarf and a long over-garment (and didn't go into the water). Her two daughters were both in skimpy bikinis and their husbands were having a wonderful time taking care of the kids, while the moms swam and sunbathed.

During a lull, Grandmom (who was likely younger than I) sat down in the lounger next to mine, got comfortable, pulled out a cigarette and took a long and apparently satisfying puff. I must have looked somewhat surprised at that because she looked at me, smiled and gave a distinctly roguish wink. Then we both chuckled. I wish that we could have conversed because it would likely have been fun for us both.

At one roadside stop, one woman who heard me speaking English, approached me with her cellphone. I presumed that she wanted to take a picture of or with me - not an uncommon occurrence, btw. But I finally understood that she wanted me to speak on it. She called the number of her niece in Istanbul, who was an English speaker, and we had a three-way conversation.

While we in the West may not quite understand how they do it, the Turks in Turkey seem to have found a way to maintain a balance between the religious and the secular that suits their culture, even though the secularists are still - rightfully so - nervous. I hope that balance can be maintained.

IMO, the surest way to drive people into the arms of fundamentalists is to deny them rights that they believe should be basic ones, such as the ability to worship as they please.

More American should go and see for themselves what life is like outside the US bubble and their own comfort zones. They will find that their comfort zones will expand immensely and will be appalled at how little they actually know about life in non-Western countries. There is too much media bias about Muslim and predominantly-Muslim societies generally - and oftentimes even bias from former immigrants who have since become Americans. In some cases, the latter may have very little idea how their countries of origin may have changed for the better since their departures.

Sorry - I didn't mean to get on my high horse! Glad to know that you too have friends there.

Bragi

(7,650 posts)
6. I agree
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jun 2016

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The Turks are fabulously welcoming. Hospitality to strangers is both a religious and cultural norm. And Istanbul is one of the world's truly Great cities. I spent a month there in 2013. Regrettably, I'll not return until things settle down, which may not be soon. Why? Because I simply don't need the stress of pondering potential terrorist attacks in my travels. But Istanbul is indeed a wonder to behold.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
7. Je Suis Istanbul
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 12:54 PM
Jun 2016

In before the Equivalency crowd. Yes, I am angry and sad about this attack on a LIBERAL, COSMOPOLITAN CITY.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
8. I'm with you 100 percent!
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:54 PM
Jun 2016

Istanbul is a liberal and cosmopolitan city, as well as beautiful, historic and influential in SO many ways for millennia.



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