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DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 08:49 PM Jun 2016

Oklahoma Police Just Made It Easier Than Ever To Seize Someone’s Money

Source: Think Progress

This builds on the vagueness of the state’s civil asset forfeiture laws in general. Oklahoma law only requires the department to prove that seized property is connected to a crime by a preponderance of evidence.

Vincent argues that if someone believes their funds were wrongly seized, they can get them back. “If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we’ve done that in the past,” he said. But under state law, anyone who wants to try and get their assets back bears the burden of proving that they had nothing to do with illegal use of their property.

Both Vincent and T. Jack Williams, president of ERAD Group, the company that makes and sells the card readers, argue that seizure is not the primary goal of the readers, and instead that is “tertiary,” as Williams put it; catching identity theft is. “This isn’t solely about asset forfeiture. This isn’t about money. We’re not in the business of making money. We’re in the business of solving crimes,” Vincent said.

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2016/06/09/3786458/oklahoma-cards-asset-forfeiture/



CASH COPS: HOW CIVIL FORFEITURE ENRICHED U.S. LAW ENFORCEMENT
In 2013, Vice reported that a district attorney in Georgia used the funds to “to buy football tickets and home furnishings,” whereas “officers in Bal Harbor, Florida, took trips to LA and Vegas and rented luxury cars, and other DAs and police chiefs have bought everything from tanning salons to booze for parties.”

The Washington Post also reported that police are using the funds to militarize themselves, buying an array of items such as “Humvees, automatic weapons, gas grenades, night-vision scopes and sniper gear. Many departments acquired electronic surveillance equipment, including automated license-plate readers and systems that track cellphones.” And this spending is on top of the military surplus gear police receive from the Pentagon.

While there is a federal force to ensure that funds are used appropriately, it's wildly understaffed; the Justice Department has about 15 employees assigned to oversee compliance, with some five employees responsible for reviewing thousands of annual reports. Essentially, then, police are free to spend the money they gain from civil forfeitures on anything they want, without fear of punishment.

Besides the previously noted conflict of interest and burden of proof issues, there are also other major problems with civil forfeiture – notably, the disproportionate racial impact and harm it causes to innocent people.

http://www.occupy.com/article/cash-cops-how-civil-forfeiture-enriched-us-law-enforcement
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Oklahoma Police Just Made It Easier Than Ever To Seize Someone’s Money (Original Post) DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 OP
What a load of shit! Scalded Nun Jun 2016 #1
I would start carrying cash only. roamer65 Jun 2016 #2
Cash is what they love WhiteTara Jun 2016 #3
YEs. The govt wants us ALL to be sucked into using electronic payment, 7962 Jun 2016 #4

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
1. What a load of shit!
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jun 2016

"This isn’t solely about asset forfeiture. This isn’t about money. We’re not in the business of making money. We’re in the business of solving crimes,” Vincent said.

What a fucking liar. They are in this for the intimidation and the loot. Theft with impunity.

These people are state-sanctioned thieves. The company enabling this to happen gets a cut of all seizures (7.7% skimmed off the top).

Highwaymen, armed thieves, thugs are all appropriate labels for these parasitic armed bullies.

I have a sneaky suspicion (can't prove it) that there may be a sliding scale of seizures based upon varying skin color.

Who would even want to drive through that state, much less visit it or live there.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
2. I would start carrying cash only.
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

Just your drivers license and cash. Bank the old way. Show ID and withdraw just enuff cash to do what you need to do.

If cops are given this kind of power, rest assured they will abuse it.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
4. YEs. The govt wants us ALL to be sucked into using electronic payment,
Thu Jun 9, 2016, 10:44 PM
Jun 2016

so they can follow EVERY move. They hate cash and will eventually try to do away with it because they cant control what we do with it. I use cash almost ALL the time, and ive seen many events I go to go back to "cash only" transactions too

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