Elizabeth Warren meets with Hillary Clinton as vice-presidential rumors swirl

[brooklynite]

Source: The Guardian

Hillary Clinton hosted Senator Elizabeth Warren at her Washington home on Friday, fuelling speculation that the pair could join forces to form an all-female ticket in the presidential election.

The senator from Massachusetts arrived at Clinton’s house in an affluent, tree-lined suburb near Observatory Circle just before 10.40am and left about an hour later without taking questions from the media.

The women have had several conversations over the past month, the Washington Post reported.

Warren, 66, endorsed Clinton on Thursday night and, asked by MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow if she felt confident she could be commander-in-chief if she became vice-president and had to assume the top job, replied: “Yes, I do.”

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/10/elizabeth-warren-hillary-clinton-vice-president-rumors

[tonyt53]

1. This "girl fight" isn't between two women, it is going to be how two strong women kick ass.

[burrowowl]

2. We need both Warren and

Sanders to stay in the Senate.

[pnwmom]

9. Harry Reid believes he has found a way around that due to MA law

that would require a special election for an opening.

And Joseph Kennedy III, who is a member of Congress now, won his seat by 61%. He's being spoken of as a possible replacement in the Senate.

[alarimer]

50. She needs to be able to criticize Hillary, which she can't as VP.

She will need plenty of help pushing her to the left. As VP, she will be effectively silenced into a useless position with no real authority. No, as VP, pick a nobody.

[pnwmom]

51. I don't think Elizabeth is the type to be silenced, and I think she would

offer wise counsel. If she were offered and took the job, I think she would be an effective advocate in the position.

[ananda]

34. Agree.

There are other good candidates for Veep.

[bvar22]

38. I can understand WHY the conservative wing of the Democratic Party....

...would like to see Warren as the VP.
That would effectively muzzle and neuter her.
The Democratic Party and the Nation NEEDS Warren's strong Liberal voice and ethics in the Senate.
She will be able to continue to voice the Liberal message, and Wealth Inequality Problem, the Too Big to Fail national disaster, and numerous other issues that Sanders ran on.
I just don't see her sitting quietly behind Clinton and nodding her head at Hillary's NeoLiberal Centrist No.We.Can't! administration.

[longship]

3. Well, she as much as said, "No" on Rachel last night.

The "I do." was a response to a specific question about Ed Rendell's comment that Liz was not qualified. Rachel asked her if she thought she was qualified. She said, "Yes, I do."

But that had absolutely nothing to do with whether she was interested in VEEP, which she clearly responded a couple minutes earlier when Rachel asked that question with, "I really love my work." (Or something like that.) She also mentioned her loyalty to her MA constituency.

So, no. Warren is not interested in VEEP.

Thank goodness.

[DrToast]

17. "I love my work" is a standard response

She's not going to come out and say she's interested.

[longship]

33. Well, Rachel also said that she knew Warren wasn't interested.

In context, that changes things a bit. So "I love my work" means "no, not interested" here.

[TrollBuster9090]

22. In fact, she's currently about twice as qualified now

as Obama was when he was nominated. So, somebody should ask asshat Rendell if he thought Obama was not qualified when HE ran in 2008.

Seriously, that clown needs to take his name off the speed-dial list for Morning Joe.

[longship]

32. Rofl - good one nt

[moonscape]

39. Saw an interesting historical analysis of

all US presidents: how qualified they were, and how effective and well-regarded historically. There was no relationship between the two. Some of the most qualified were miserable presidents and vice versa. Basically, 'qualifications' were not predictive of how good a president he (and now she) would be.

[cstanleytech]

4. I doubt she will seek the VP position or take it if its offered by Hillary.

Not because she doesnt support Hillary but I just happen to think Warren knows shes needed right now more as a senator and the VP spot would be a waste for a women of her potential.

[zappaman]

5. It's a trap, Elizabeth!

Don't do it!!!111

[Saviolo]

6. Please, no

I love Elizabeth Warren, and I hope she stays in the Senate. She is doing such a good job standing up to enormously moneyed interests, and I think she can do a lot more good where she is. If Hillary's looking for someone with great progressive credentials, I'm sure there are other options she can go to.

[billhicks76]

7. VP Powerless

Unless the President delegates authority to them like Cheney got. This could take away Elizabeth's power and she could be used to hide behind and deflect blame of any centrists failures. Clinton campaign needs to own their identity now and prove they can deliver.

[Kelvin Mace]

10. I don't see Warren happy is a "passive" role

and HRC has to know that.

It would also give HRC "plausible deniability" with her Wall Street owners. She puts Warren in charge of Wall Street reform, and then pleads "Hey, what are ya gonna do? Had to keep the base happy."

Warren on the ticket (or Bernie) would unite the party. Anyone else, not so much.

[emulatorloo]

30. +1

[snooper2]

12. until she goes and debates whichever douchebag accepts Drumpfs VP offer

We'll see who is stupid enough for that gig

[Kelvin Mace]

8. If HRC wants a united party

this is how you get it. That and fire DWS.

[ananda]

35. Yes, DWS needs to go but for some reason ...

... the Dems just won't or can't shake her.

That's a real shame, too.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

11. How can Senator Warren reconcile this?

Hillary makes speeches to Wall Street for exorbitant amounts of money. Hillary is in bed with Goldman Sachs.

Elizabeth Warren is determined to go after Wall Street and their outright theft of billions in the mortgage crisis of 2008 and yet not a single Wall Street banker has been indicted or gone to jail.

How can she reconcile this?

[totodeinhere]

13. She can't. n/t

[renate]

18. I think it's only recently that a president and vice president were expected to like each other

In fact, it's maybe only in this administration that it's been demonstrably true.

Did Bush actually like Cheney, or did he find in him an authority figure who would tell him what to do?
Towards the end of the Clinton administration, I don't think Gore was very impressed by Clinton.
I can't imagine Bush Sr. respected Quayle.
I don't think the Reagans and the Bushes got along, although I could be wrong about that.
Etc.
And LBJ and Kennedy loathed each other.

But given the recent model of the VP having a big part to play in the administration, I think Warren could play a very positive role, and be very powerful, even if her positions are not the same as Clinton's. I'd love to think of her having easy access to the President, and of her having the President's ear. She may feel it's worth giving up her seat as of one of 100 senators to have that access.

I would be so thrilled to vote for her... right now it's only people in Massachusetts who get to be so lucky!

[emulatorloo]

31. Easy. She works on Wall Street regulation as VP

HRC turns that over to her.

[Sunlei]

14. Mrs. Clinton said, she will take time, even up to the convention date to select a VP.

Let the media 'rumors' swirl for some weeks.

[mrr303am]

15. Will she accept the VP post if offered?

I guess that will depend on how large a check Goldman Sachs offers her. Hopefully she'll remain loyal to her beliefs and tells them what they can do with their check.

[getagrip_already]

16. they want the flexibility...

to adjust depending on who the deadbeat picks.

But I really hope it is warren. really.

[Ferd Berfel]

19. Unless Clinton is planning on being impeached and removed

It's a waste of one of the few truly Progressive Senators. She's significantly more valuable in teh Senate then under CLinton's neocon thumb

[azurnoir]

20. um...........

for some reason the words mission acomplished come to mind-don't know why and there isn't any flight suit involved, but I have seen speculation that Clinton wanted to muzzle or otherwise negate a voice from the Democratic Party that might oppose some of her policies

https://mobile.twitter.com/businessinsider/status/741103129345822720?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[Ferd Berfel]

23. yeah, that's my thought

regarding Bernie or Warren as VP. In that position they are pretty much puppets of the Prez
I hope Warren doesn't' sell us out like that. We are going to really need them both in the Senate to lead
the opposition to her Right wing Third Way crap.

[TrollBuster9090]

21. Yes, but she was asked that question specifically in response to

specifically in response to Ed "shit-for-brains" Rendell's comment that she was "in no way, shape or form qualified to be President."
The question wasn't asked to find out if she's auditioning for the job.

I don't think she's interested in that position, but I definitely don't have any problem with the rumors flying around about it.

[mountain grammy]

24. Yes, do it! Do it!

Warren will give us a landslide!

[Beacool]

25. I'm glad that they met and I like Liz Warren a lot, but I don't think that she'll be Hillary's VP.

Hillary is the first woman nominee of a major political party in our country's history. Voters may feel uncomfortable with two women on the ticket. There's also the fact that Liz is only two years younger than Hillary and is from the Northeast.

I think that she'll pick a man from a diverse state who is some years younger than herself. If elected, Hillary would not only be the first woman president, but also the second oldest. Notice how Obama, who was a young and not very experienced nominee, chose an older white man with years of political experience.

Liz Warren can probably do more good from the Senate and be one of Hillary's strongest allies in helping her pass her agenda. Ditto for Sanders.

[MFM008]

26. I think HRC will do the best

she feels she can do.
I will support whoever she puts on the ticket.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. Considering Republicans are lining up to see who stars in impeachment hearings....

The threat of "President Warren" might calm them down.

[Jackilope]

28. No, please NO. Wall St. wins in this scenario.

[ananda]

36. Oh dear.

I hadn't thought of that. But Warren would be
pretty much disempowered as Veep.

[LiberalLovinLug]

29. A way to neuter her

She ain't gonna be no Cheney-like overlord to the Clintons that's for sure.

She will just be expected to be the cheerleader for Hillary and maybe be the tie breaker in the Senate if that ever comes up.
Its a step down.

What would impress me would be Elizabeth Warren as Secretary of the Treasury. Now THAT would prove that Hillary will not, as she promised, be influenced by all the big money she has received from Wall Street.

I guess also Hillary may be looking at it as a way to physically protect herself. Any nefarious RW plotters may think twice if Warren is the one that's going to be her replacement.

[justiceischeap]

37. I think Warren is a trial balloon

to see how the electorate feel about a two-woman ticket.

If the people are amenable to Warren then all they have to do is find another progressive woman for the ticket.

In the meantime most progressives and Dems, and the general public, get excited about the concept of an all woman ticket

It's a smart play.

[Eric J in MN]

40. I support Warren for VP. As a former law professor whom HRC respects

...I think she'd be more influential than most VPs.

[CanadaexPat]

41. I'd prefer it didn't happen because I'd prefer

Warren in the Senate, but if it happens I'll be very excited.

[mdbl]

42. Warren can be much more effective in the Senate

Being the VP will allow her to do pretty much nothing.

[LannyDeVaney]

43. I think Democrats take the Senate in November ...

but if they can protect her seat, and (worse case) it splits ... it sure would be nice to have her as the tie-breaker as VP.

[Politicub]

44. I think it may be Cory Booker

[Vote2016]

45. It's a shitty job beneath her skills but I suspect Warren will be VP because the party needs her.

Warren is one of few VP choices that help Hillary where Hillary is fatally weak.

I'd rather have Warren in the Senate but I think we lose the presidency and fail to retake the Senate with a Hillary-GenericWhiteCentristDude ticket, and we win the presidency and the Senate with Hillary-Warren.

[olddad56]

46. I think that Hillary would be better off to select a male VP.

just because there are still too many chauvinistic male voters.

I personally, as a male, think we need more well qualified women in office at every level of government. I like the female energy in government. In general, I think men often act first and think second. Just my opinion.

[nclib]

47. Would love to see Warren as VP

[OnDoutside]

48. Let's say Warren ISN'T going to be picked as VP, what job do you think would best suit her

given that she should would remain as a Senator ?

[oberliner]

49. "affluent, tree-lined suburb near Observatory Circle"

The house is not in a suburb, it is in the District.