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Gungnir

(242 posts)
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:34 PM Jun 2016

Australians on the east coast are suddenly becoming deathly allergic to red meat

Source: news.com.au

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None mentioned that a severe local reaction to a tick was a risk factor for developing mammalian meat allergy (MMA), an emerging allergy where the tick’s saliva changes a person’s immune system to start reacting to the meat of mammals — beef, pork, lamb and sometimes even dairy and gelatine.
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Clinical Associate Professor Sheryl van Nunen discovered the link between anaphylaxis to mammalian meat and Australian paralysis tick bite in 2007. Back then it was a relatively rare occurrence but fast forward nearly 10 years and she diagnoses a new case of MMA daily at her Chatswood rooms.

It’s estimated there are well over 1000 cases on Sydney’s northern beaches alone. Numbers are so high on the north shore that a diagnosis of MMA in adults, commonly anaphylaxis, is as prevalent as the commonest food allergy in adults, peanut allergy.
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Unlike traditional food allergies MMA has a delayed reaction of anywhere between two and 10 hours. Most reactions happen between four to six hours after ingestion. Allergic symptoms vary, from hives, to gastrointestinal pain and anaphylaxis.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/australians-on-the-east-coast-are-suddenly-becoming-deathly-allergic-to-red-meat/news-story/1f64fdb74e86fe7fd1a9c30793806548



Interesting way to safely remove tic without transmitting the alpha-gal:

Meanwhile, prevention is the best cure. Dr van Nunen advises using an ether-containing spray such as Wart-Off to freeze and kill the tick in situ and letting it drop off rather than pull it out.


I wonder how long before this disease hits here.
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Australians on the east coast are suddenly becoming deathly allergic to red meat (Original Post) Gungnir Jun 2016 OP
It seems the world is getting its revenge on our troublesome species. leveymg Jun 2016 #1
Man that could the hurt a huge meat industry rurallib Jun 2016 #2
import that tick! THE TICK saves the world!!! we need that tick certainot Jun 2016 #24
It's already here Warpy Jun 2016 #27
We shouldn't be consuming red meat in the quantities that we do now. That cattle industry is one of Chakab Jun 2016 #3
That's right! tabasco Jun 2016 #17
Already here. ncgrits Jun 2016 #4
How is it transmitted? KamaAina Jun 2016 #8
Chapel Hill Bandicoots! ncgrits Jun 2016 #22
Tick borne illnesses really screw up immunity bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #5
8 TIMES!!! Doctor Who Jun 2016 #7
I thought Lyme was chronic? KamaAina Jun 2016 #9
Chronic when untreated bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #12
Where do you live? Darb Jun 2016 #29
Remember the product bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #30
Throw another turnip on the barbie, mate! LiberalEsto Jun 2016 #6
. MissB Jun 2016 #10
I can't help but wonder if kangaroo meat is included. KamaAina Jun 2016 #11
It's a vegan plot I tells ya azurnoir Jun 2016 #13
Gene drive...and get mosquitoes also. AngryAmish Jun 2016 #14
I wonder when the disease hits the U.S. if the media will even mention it. valerief Jun 2016 #15
It's hit the U.S. already, Lars39 Jun 2016 #16
I'm sorry to hear that. nt valerief Jun 2016 #23
This is horrible GummyBearz Jun 2016 #18
Yuck. I really can't stand the nasty little things. Not sure I could ever have a dog bringing them FailureToCommunicate Jun 2016 #19
"The nuts I was eating came from China, where they spray nuts with meat flavouring." WTF?? eppur_se_muova Jun 2016 #20
Might be a variety of BBQ or smoke flavor Hekate Jun 2016 #26
My Life With Ticks Ned Flanders Jun 2016 #21
K&R!!!!!! burrowowl Jun 2016 #25
I hope it doesn't affect other carnivores felix_numinous Jun 2016 #28

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
1. It seems the world is getting its revenge on our troublesome species.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:40 PM
Jun 2016

If it's not this, its the neurological infections of prejudice, hatred with AR-15s on the mind.

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
27. It's already here
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:55 AM
Jun 2016

MMA is endemic to Texas and now spreading, mostly though Dixie. Other ticks have been spreading the allergy in Asia and parts of Europe.

Some sources give an 8 month to 5 year recovery period for the allergy to subside. Others say the allergy might be permanent.

This is likely to affect the cattle industry, causing a lot of economic hardship as sales fall. However, there will likely always be a demand for red meat among a majority who can still eat it.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
3. We shouldn't be consuming red meat in the quantities that we do now. That cattle industry is one of
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

the largest contributors to environmental problems that is rarely mentioned in that context.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
17. That's right!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

Livestock agriculture is destroying the biosphere and eliminating what's left of the wildlife on this planet.

Mankind will pay the price for its wanton destruction of our ecosphere.

Maybe you have seen this already....

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BztNHmy4v7TpYVdjaHoxdTlGQXc/view?usp=sharing

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. How is it transmitted?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jun 2016

Even if it's also tick bites, there certainly is no bandicoot reservoir in Chapel Hill.

Ticks are a problem on the whole of the eastern seaboard of Australia, which means there’s roughly 50 per cent of the population at risk of getting MMA. So, why is this allergy growing at such a rate and why are some places, like Sydney’s northern beaches such hot spots?

Dr van Nunen blames the proliferation of bandicoots. And this is where the allergy gets even stranger. When the tick feeds on a bandicoot or other small mammal, it picks up a small amount of alpha-gal from its blood, which is transmitted from the tick’s gut into the human when the tick is pulled off. It is this sugar that people with MMA become allergic to.

“What I often see is when people are starting to report bandicoot holes in their backyard, that’s when they start to get bitten by ticks,” Dr van Nunen says.


ncgrits

(916 posts)
22. Chapel Hill Bandicoots!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jun 2016

Sounds like a Rainbow Soccer league team! My friend got it from a tick bite. His wife, my business partner, misses bacon so much! But she's given up all red meat in solidarity. (And of course she's healthier for it....)

Go Bandicoots!

bucolic_frolic

(42,982 posts)
5. Tick borne illnesses really screw up immunity
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 05:46 PM
Jun 2016

Even with antibiotics and cure, the immune system lags for months
or a couple of years in my experience

I've had Lyme about 8 times, and the bites now become red
and needle-like itchy in 3 days, so it never gets full blown like
a 4 week infection

 

Doctor Who

(147 posts)
7. 8 TIMES!!!
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

Do you live with a herd of deer? Kidding aside, I'm glad you have it under control. I have a friend how had un-diagnosed Lyme disease for months. Your right, it wiped her her out. Between the constant fatigue and messed up immune system, she thought she was dying. She's doing better now.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
9. I thought Lyme was chronic?
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:14 PM
Jun 2016


A dear friend has it. She lives in Hawai'i, and contracted it while on her honeymoon in MN. Needless to say, Lyme expertise on O'ahu is minimal at best.

bucolic_frolic

(42,982 posts)
12. Chronic when untreated
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:30 PM
Jun 2016

For some people it seems to go underground. They seem to get better initially,
then it goes deep inside. A relative had that, and spent a month in hospital
with IV doxycycline, then 6 months on it.

For some reason, perhaps the local tick and deer populations, my household
gets it fast. 3 days for one leads to a raging infection and fever. The males
get sick slowly until about 3 weeks when the bulls eye rash hits and fever
and every ache you can name. Doxycycline tabs clear it in a month.

There are other tick diseases. Erlychiosis is one. Not sure of the spelling there.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
11. I can't help but wonder if kangaroo meat is included.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 06:17 PM
Jun 2016

They're mammals, all right, but they're marsupials (hence the pouch ).

valerief

(53,235 posts)
15. I wonder when the disease hits the U.S. if the media will even mention it.
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

Wouldn't want to hurt Big Cattle.

eppur_se_muova

(36,246 posts)
20. "The nuts I was eating came from China, where they spray nuts with meat flavouring." WTF??
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 08:52 PM
Jun 2016

What idiot decided that nuts needed to taste like MEAT ?? Fucking nonexistent Chinese safety standards !

 

Ned Flanders

(233 posts)
21. My Life With Ticks
Tue Jun 14, 2016, 09:02 PM
Jun 2016

I've been bitten by over a hundred ticks in my lifetime, and found hundreds (if not thousands) more before they could bite, I kid you not. I spend most of my hikes off trail, in the chaparral of California. While the literature says you won't feel a tick bite, I must disagree, as I almost always feel the initial bite, no matter how small they are. I wish someone would study me, because I do wonder about Lymes and other tick-borne disease. A survey of a park near my home found 25% of deer ticks carried the disease. I've been tested twice for Lymes, both came up negative, but the tests are notoriously inaccurate. I have had bullseye rashes and significant swelling, but other bug bites can react the same way on me. Sure, I'm often fatigued, my joints ache, I get random headaches and went through a period there with G.I. issues and really bad rashes. But I assume that's just aging (49yo), lol.

So what have I learned?

They're attracted to dark colors. Tick researchers drag a piece of blue carpet around the forest to collect them.

Early thought was the tick had to be latched on to you for at least 24 hours for the disease to be transmitted. A more recent study indicates only 8 hours is required.

If treated immediately (within weeks, I recall), it can be cured. If treatment is delayed it hides itself in various parts of our body, making its removal effectively impossible.

Taking a hot bath or spending an extended time swimming in the local river is not a 100% effective removal technique. Leave your shoes outside after a hike, to prevent hitchhikers gradually emerging from them over the next couple days. Tuck your pants into your socks, and your shirt into your pants, if you don't mind the fashion faux paus. Everytime you take a break while hiking, do a check for ticks. Don't take your dog hiking riverside on the first sunny day in spring, after a good rain.

Lymes may have been engineered by our Gov't into the disease it is today. Yes, it sounds like Agenda 21 nonsense, but the bullseye map of its discovery has the U.S.'s Plum Island Animal Disease Center at its middle. That's a heck of a coincidence, Good Neighbor!

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