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DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 04:59 PM Jun 2016

Feds: DHS employee may have been planning workplace violence

Source: In Homeland Security.

Federal authorities and a congressman said Wednesday they were continuing to investigate whether a Department of Homeland Security employee with a top-secret clearance was planning to attack at the agency’s Washington headquarters when he entered the building with a gun and other weapons.

Jonathan Wienke, a 45-year-old analyst in the Office of Intelligence and Analysis, so far only faces a handgun charge and is not in custody, pending further court proceedings. He is accused of carrying a gun, a knife, an infrared camera, pepper spray and handcuffs into headquarters on the morning of June 9. According to court documents filed by the federal government, investigators have probable cause to believe Wienke “was conspiring with another to commit workplace violence, and more particularly may have been conspiring or planning to commit violence against senior DHS officials in the building.”

Rep. Michael McCaul, chairman of the House committee on homeland security, said his committee would look into the matter.

Read more: http://inhomelandsecurity.com/feds-dhs-employee-may-have-been-planning-workplace-violence/



This is why I believe any gun control law passed must affect everyone, citizens and government alike. I don't want cops, or anyone on American soil allowed to own weapons the general population is prohibited from owning. Its a slippery slope if the government passes laws but exemps themselves from them.

Laws that target only citizens assume at there core that only citizens are prone to violence....when it is often the opposite that is true. Power corrupts absolutely.


Remember Kent State?
Well cops aren't armed in England and England enjoys a low rate of violent crime!
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Feds: DHS employee may have been planning workplace violence (Original Post) DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 OP
Weapons like like was used in Orlando, San Bernardino, and Sandy Hook are Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #1
Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is from the Declaration of Independence REP Jun 2016 #2
Life is important, maybe not to some people but it is to me. What part of the Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #4
The constitution doesn't 'give' any rights whatsoever. X_Digger Jun 2016 #10
OK, what papers, etc gives the privilege to kill others, not talking about Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #11
Nothing 'gives' rights. Period. *sigh* X_Digger Jun 2016 #12
Where is the privilidge? Civics 101 Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #14
There is no privilege to kill others, outside of self-defense. You have an active imagination. X_Digger Jun 2016 #15
No, I don't have an active imagination, just a point of truth. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #16
No, you really don't. Are you asserting that because a criminal commits a criminal act.. X_Digger Jun 2016 #17
You missed, bye Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #18
Lol, okay.. when you can articulate your position better, do come back. n/t X_Digger Jun 2016 #19
Sounds to me like someone who's watched bucolic_frolic Jun 2016 #3
Terrorist Historic NY Jun 2016 #5
MEETING A DATE ON CRAIG'S LIST AFTER WORK PERHAPS? cynzke Jun 2016 #6
You want the Nation Guard to be armed with deer rifles? Marengo Jun 2016 #7
Modern defense makes guns look like toys. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #8
One of the responsibilities of a national government is to provide for a national defense... Marengo Jun 2016 #9
Guns won't defend America from modern warfare. DemMomma4Sanders Jun 2016 #13

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
1. Weapons like like was used in Orlando, San Bernardino, and Sandy Hook are
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jun 2016

Designed to kill people. In these three incidents the weapons was in possession of people who used these weapons to kill people
. We have rules and regulations for other industries but are unable to be sensible when it comes to guns. What is wrong with life, liberty and pursuit of happiness?

REP

(21,691 posts)
2. Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is from the Declaration of Independence
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 05:42 PM
Jun 2016

which has no legal standing as a legal document in the US government. So there's nothing wrong with it, but it's not part of the Constitution.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
4. Life is important, maybe not to some people but it is to me. What part of the
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:18 PM
Jun 2016

Constitution gives me the right to kill others?

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
10. The constitution doesn't 'give' any rights whatsoever.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:41 AM
Jun 2016

Rights don't flow from the government-- that would make them privileges. Rights existed before the constitution- see e.g. the Declaration of Independence.. 'That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men..'

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
11. OK, what papers, etc gives the privilege to kill others, not talking about
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 07:55 AM
Jun 2016

Self defense, but to kill others such as mass shootings, just because one may feel another should not live any longer for any reason except in the line of duty such as war, law enforcement.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
12. Nothing 'gives' rights. Period. *sigh*
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jun 2016

Rights exist. Governments are instituted to protect them.

Civics 101.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
15. There is no privilege to kill others, outside of self-defense. You have an active imagination.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:34 PM
Jun 2016

There is no license (an artifact of a privilege) granted by the government to do so.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
17. No, you really don't. Are you asserting that because a criminal commits a criminal act..
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 01:56 PM
Jun 2016

.. that there is necessarily some privilege involved?

That would be.. not smart.

bucolic_frolic

(43,132 posts)
3. Sounds to me like someone who's watched
Thu Jun 23, 2016, 06:00 PM
Jun 2016

"Spy Game" too many times

The plot's not exact, but the free reign inside National Security complexes sort of fits

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
8. Modern defense makes guns look like toys.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:57 PM
Jun 2016

There are no reasons for any infallible humans, governmental or civilian, to maintain a hand held arsenal capable of wiping out everyone in the world times over.

Unless the purpose is to maintain instability and prop up illigitimate empires.

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
9. One of the responsibilities of a national government is to provide for a national defense...
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 12:17 AM
Jun 2016

How can it do so unarmed?

 

DemMomma4Sanders

(274 posts)
13. Guns won't defend America from modern warfare.
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

Guns have no place in civilized societies, or societies that hope to be civilized.

Americans aren't armed to the teeth because they believe they wory about the government. They're armed because their worried about a kid or group mugging them. Guns don't get rid of the economic inequity that leads to violence.

The annual ammount spent on guns could RID THE WORLD OF THAT INIQUITY!

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