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brooklynite

(94,452 posts)
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:08 AM Jun 2016

Nicola Sturgeon announces plans for second indyref

Source: The Scotsman

FIRST Minister Nicola Sturgeon has confiremd that she is preparing legislation to enable the Scottish Parliament to hold a second referendum on Scottish independence.

Ms Sturgeon made the announcement at a press conference held at Bute House following the referendum on membership of the European Union.

Britain voted to leave the EU by 52 per cent to 48 per cent, with Scotland voting overwhelmingly to remain.

Ms Sturgeon said: “It is a statement of the obvious that a second referendum must be on the table and it is on the table.

Read more: http://www.scotsman.com/news/nicola-sturgeon-announces-plans-for-second-indyref-1-4162797

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riversedge

(70,174 posts)
1. WashPost-- Scottish leader says she will push for a second independence referendum
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:32 AM
Jun 2016

With his big helicopter with his name on it in the background (just after he landed). Trump praised the Leave vote. Cnn made the comment that perhaps he did not know how Scotland voted to STAY!. What an idiot.




Scottish leader says she will push for a second independence referendum



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/after-brexit-the-uk-could-disintegrate/2016/06/24/5e7d2b03-81b4-4149-a138-8bd11953281c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_scotland-650a-top%3Ahomepage%2Fstory




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Scotland's First Minister and Leader of the Scottish National Party (SNP), Nicola Sturgeon, leaves a polling station in east Glasgow. (Robert Perry/AFP/Getty Images)


By James McAuley June 24 at 6:52 AM

LONDON — Scottish leaders who overwhelming supported Britain’s membership in the European Union warned Friday of possible renewed bids for independence after British voters turned their backs on the 28-nation bloc.

Nicola Sturgeon, the leader of the Scottish National Party, said that a second referendum on Scotland's membership in the United Kingdom was a possibility in the immediate future.

This potential second referendum would come two years after pro-E.U. Scottish voters rejected independence and opted to remain united with England, Wales and Northern Ireland in September 2014.................

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ck4829

(35,041 posts)
3. It is quite clear that the interests of Scotland and Britain have diverged
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:16 AM
Jun 2016

And as far as I've seen there is no potential for a substate to be a part of the EU, so leaving the UK may be the only choice Scotland has if it wants to be a part of the EU after this.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
4. Nations that are inside the EU can block the entry of new members.
Fri Jun 24, 2016, 08:55 AM
Jun 2016

If Scotland votes to leave the UK they will not be admitted to the EU as an independent country. Spain would block it.

Denzil_DC

(7,227 posts)
10. Fine.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:34 AM
Jun 2016

Then Spain will lose access to the Scottish fisheries so much of its fleet relies on. They already have to range very far - to Canada and Namibia and beyond - to fill their holds, and there have been serious disputes over their access to UK fisheries in the past that will come back to bite them in the ass.

They'll buckle if it comes to the push.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
6. It is still unbelievable that Trump said Brexit was great, in Scotland.
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 05:12 AM
Jun 2016

Literally, quite literally, minutes after Sturgeon called for a second independent referendum. Like, the history books cannot be more harsh on the man. He's going to go down so hard that it's inconceivable how badly he's going to be crushed by history.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
7. STOP !!! It was inconceivable that the British people would vote to leave the EU ! It should ALL be
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:16 AM
Jun 2016

conceivable now, and work damn hard to make sure it doesn't happen.

The SNP have been laying the groundwork that they would demand another Independence referendum, if Britain voted to leave the EU, since the last Independence Referendum.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
8. HAHAH
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jun 2016

An 80% white country? Falling for rhetoric bashing the 20% "non-white" immigrants? Please. Predictable.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
9. Banking your post for massive amounts of hubris. It's one thing to not actually address the concerns
Sat Jun 25, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jun 2016

of those who want "change", it would be an even bigger crime to ignore them.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,294 posts)
11. Some former Scottish Labour leaders are saying they'd back independence now
Sun Jun 26, 2016, 09:14 AM
Jun 2016
STV News is reporting that a former chair of Scottish Labour, Jamie Glackin, will back independence in a second referendum.

Glackin, who has served on Labour’s Scottish executive for six years, told STV News:

The whole landscape has changed. We are in a completely different place now. We have to accept the consequences of this vote. If a second referendum on independence were held tomorrow, Yes would win. The Labour party cannot be seen to stand in the way of that.

On Saturday the former Labour first minister Henry McLeish likewise signalled he would be minded to support independence in a second referendum, writing for Holyrood magazine:

More significantly the constitutional or Scotland question has been reframed.

In 2014 the referendum question of “yes or no” was about remaining in the UK which of course carried with it automatic membership of the European Union ... The debate about Scotland’s future has psychologically, constitutionally and politically moved on. This is no longer a narrow nationalist vote, an SNP issue or just another “indy ref 2” on the question of in or out of the UK.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/26/brexit-live-jeremy-corbyn-sacks-hilary-benn-tory-leadership?page=with:block-576fce3de4b030d83eb4a750#block-576fce3de4b030d83eb4a750
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