S&P just downgraded the UK
Source: Business Insider
Akin Oyedele
S&P Global Ratings on Monday downgraded the United Kingdom's credit rating to "AA" from "AAA", with a "negative" outlook on the country.
The downgrade from the highest rating awarded by the agency comes following the UK's surprising vote to leave the European Union last week.
A store closing sale banner stating "Everything Must Go" on a window next to the colors of the Union flag in the City of London, Friday, June 24, 2016. Matt Dunham/AP
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Demonaut
(8,914 posts)where are the good journalists?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Wait, Sarah Palin is a journalist!
RAFisher
(466 posts)Demonaut
(8,914 posts)AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)Thanks England and Wales.
Nihil
(13,508 posts)Nothing quite like hijacking the thread with something that is completely wrong ...
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)ha ha
Recursion
(56,582 posts)bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)This is one of those times.
Ignore the referendum and refuse to invoke Article 50.
Some politicians are going to have to be willing to sacrifice their careers, as well.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Before any talks are held from what I've been reading.
I think its pathetic the way the exit leaders started backing away from their promises immediately after they won the vote.
And there seems to be no plans in place at all to deal with the win.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Read the fine print, stupid.
And never believe promises that you read on the side of a bus.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)msongs
(67,381 posts)bhikkhu
(10,714 posts)...and just voted to not have those benefits that made them an international banking center. I don't think we can blame the rest of the world.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)As it falls victim to yours (each premise being as absurd as the other).
TygrBright
(20,755 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)S and P had it's hands deep in the gore of the derivatives scandal, blatantly using it's negative ratings in a way to help out friends of their like Mitt Romney call for the same "austerity" that wrecked the EU.
On the other hand, it is nice to see Capitalism sell itself the rope they will be hanged with.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Unregulated capitalism always leads to destruction.
still_one
(92,110 posts)Igel
(35,293 posts)However, the assumption when it was formulated in its canonical version is that it would be constrained. That's different from "regulated."
Where too many individuals fail in their moral and ethical conduct, government then takes over for everybody. Laws aren't written for the good, and capitalism requires social and ethical strictures to work and a lot of buy-in by individuals to make it work. The economy functions as a kind of commons. The population overall can maintain it in an open state, or everybody can line up for permission and face a lot of rules.
It's like "pure" communism in that regard. Or, for that matter, socialism, where a lot of power is invested in society's keepers, who must stay above reproach and work for the common good. Corruption in the three systems tends to look a bit different, but it's the same thing.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)Can't say they didn't ask for this outcome.
forest444
(5,902 posts)S&P probably saw the recent outcome more like a case of the drop that spilled the cup than anything (the cup of Earl Grey, of course).
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Credit ratings agencies gave mortgage derivatives AAA ratings right up to the Great Recession.
I'd say long before the US and UK lost their ratings, the credit agencies lost their credibility!
diligent sleeper
(12 posts)For daring to leave the EU.
I remember, but not specifically the agency, when Brazil was "downgraded" because they voted in Lula.
https://therulingclassobserver.wordpress.com/2016/06/25/of-labels-the-doors-of-perception/
muriel_volestrangler
(101,294 posts)http://stream.marketwatch.com/story/markets/SS-4-4/SS-4-112157/
progree
(10,901 posts)Last edited Mon Jun 27, 2016, 08:59 PM - Edit history (1)
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1.46 - 1.73
------------ X 100% = -15.6%
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Link to graph: 10 year note - last 5 days
Notice the sudden steep plunge Thursday afternoon U.S. time, when the Brexit vote results were becoming apparent.
If above link doesn't work, try copying and pasting the below into your browser's address bar (all of it, not just what got blue underlined):
http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5ETNX+Interactive#{"range":"5d","allowChartStacking":true}
(Of course, that means the market value of the Treasury 10 year note rose by about the same amount -- no doubt as a result of a flight to safety.)
And I have a 4 year CD, $14,000, renewing in a week. Sigh. I bet the renewal rate will be pathetic. Again.
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U.S. Treasury prices soared and yields plunged to four-year lows as investors continued to seek haven assets in the wake of Britains vote to leave the European Union last week.
The benchmark 10-year Treasury yield hit an intraday low at 1.45% after the S&P 500 downgraded U.K.s credit rating to AA, from AAA, saying the event will lead to a less-predictable, stable, and effective policy framework in the U.K.
The selloff in equities follows Fridays rout, when global equity markets lost more than $2 trillion in value after the U.K. voted in favor of ending its membership in the European Union
There will be a knock-on effect on other (European countries) and this time there are no circuit breakersrates are already at or below zero and no political will for fiscal stimulus. This kind of uncertainty is driving a risk-off mode, Tipp said.
The yield on the 2-year Treasury TMUBMUSD02Y, -0.65% lost 4.7 basis points 0.605%, its lowest level since October 2015.
Meanwhile, the 30-year yield TMUBMUSD30Y, -0.06% known as the long bond, fell 14.7 basis points 2.279% from 2.426%, according to FactSet.
daleo
(21,317 posts)Funny how they suddenly have credibility, now.
progree
(10,901 posts)lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Are people more or less likely to play golf in Scotland?
Let's get our priorities straight.