PPP New Iowa Poll: Paul 20, Romney 19, Santorum 18, Gingrich 14, Perry 10, Bachmann 8, Huntsman 4
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Paul 20, Romney 19, Santorum 18, Gingrich 14, Perry 10, Bachmann 8, Huntsman 4, Roemer 2
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/headed-for-a-photo-finish-in-iowa.html
Simply amazing. With Paul falling, Santorum rising, and the GOP being lukewarm over Romney... who knows who will win on Tuesday. THe clown show continues. If you go to the story, it is clear that Santorum has some room to continue to grow.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)BrentWil
(2,384 posts)If the economy really tanks again before November, the "alternative" is going to look pretty tempting to a lot of people.
I'd rather have someone -- ANYONE -- but hard-core social conservatives like Bachmann, Perry, or Santorum winning the nomination and being that "alternative."
We'd surely be at war with Iran within a year if he somehow won...
ingac70
(7,947 posts)so we might as well go up against a crazy rather than a crazy pretending to be moderate.
Ter
(4,281 posts)A moderate pretending to be a crazy.
coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)a moderate?
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The incident: dog excrement found on the roof and windows of the Romney station wagon. How it got there: Romney strapped a dog carrier with the family dog Seamus, an Irish Setter, in it to the roof of the family station wagon for a twelve hour drive from Boston to Ontario, which the family apparently completed, despite Seamus's rather visceral protest.
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center rising
(971 posts)Brings me back to my twitter page.
jefferson_dem
(32,683 posts)Delete the "#!/" to make it http://twitter.com/ppppolls
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)I am not sure why the last part of it is black. It is a twitter feed. If you copy and past it, it should work.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)Renew Deal
(81,803 posts)Santorum is surging.
And Romney is out out state. I hope Iowans punish him for that.
jefferson_dem
(32,683 posts)Tuesday is going to be interesting. Romney's ceiling is undeniable. anyone?
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)"Santorum 23, Gingrich 18, Paul 16, Bachmann 15, Romney 12. If Mitt doesn't win that's why"
Non-crazy GOP voters like him in comparison to the others. Thats it.
Anybody but Bachman, Perry, Mittens and Paul. Go Santorm or however you spell it.lol
Armin-A
(367 posts)I'm sorry if anyone finds this offensive, but It is so hard to believe that the most important issues to these people include reversing the removal of DADT, removing pro-gay marriage judges, their religion...etc when there are so many other things that need to be fixed. Government is suppose to provide opportunity and support to people not limit them.
Big brother that teaches you how to catch, and not the big brother that picks on you.
EDIT: Wanted to rant more
Solution to our problems isn't simply remove funding for anything that rich people don't need
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)and make it tougher on Romney. Let's face it, the Republican Party is going to make sure Romney is their nominee in the end.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)But the GOP primary voter has gone insane.... I just don't see them falling in line this year.
maximusveritas
(2,915 posts)But as soon as those guys got some negative press, the voters abandoned them. I think the same will happen to Santorum. He just lucked out that his rise came at the last minute, so the GOP and media didn't have a chance to attack him.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)that can keep going.
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)He is a balls out religious zeolot, who will appeal to the fundies.
He is a balls out war nut, who will appeal to the neocon types.
He ran the K Street operation for the senate, so he is in with big business.
He is a big NRA guy.
Santorum, more than some of the fast risers is a for real politician, too. He was larger than life in Pa for 15 years, and raised the most money ever for a senate race when he lost to Casey.
He is mean, he is tough, he is smart, he is a very hard worker as a campaigner.
I know a lot of people here dismiss him, and make no mistake, he is a freak, but he could be VERY formidable.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)WHich is why I don't dismiss him winning the primary. I just think he is too far to the right on so many things that it will really hurt him in the general. It is not mainstream to be "against" contraception.
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)Bob Casey murdered him in his last senate race - even in a state that is a legitimately 50/50 he was so clearly too extreme despite being so formidable.
He just might have been lucky enough to have his turn in the the front nut parade come right at the time actual primary elections are going live. He shows well in Iowa, that might be enough for him to launch through the primary.
BO is a lot like Casey - cool. I imagine that compared to Santorum, he will look good.
And, not sure how any candidate in the final two is going to do when he will freely admit to having itchy trigger fingers with the military. Bad/weak economy or not, Iraq is still in enough people's minds that they are going to have a hard time voting for someone who might have us in a war with Iran before January of 2013 ends.
SixthSense
(829 posts)he went balls to the wall for Arlen Specter of all people, one of the most corrupt bastards ever to disgrace the Senate (and that's saying quite a bit)
Cosmocat
(14,543 posts)and Spector REALLY looked up to Santorum.
creeksneakers2
(7,468 posts)the tea party has run out of alternatives.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)The candidate he really has the knives out for is Ron Paul. That could be one reason why Paul gets more sympathetic treatment here than most (along with being right on two or three issues) - the "my enemy's enemy" principle.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)has been so blatantly unfair to him that it makes you want to tear your hair out.
It makes the entire country look bad when a candidate is leading in the polls for the Iowa Caucus and CNN doesn't even cover it.
And AGAIN, I am not a Ron Paul backer. I do not want Ron Paul to be president. But I DO want all candidates to be treated fairly. No matter how crazy we make think they are. That is part of the American process.
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SixthSense
(829 posts)I've never seen the elitist Right so scared of anyone and I enjoy their fear a lot. They seem less concerned about winning the general as they are about keeping control of the GOP.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)Just to watch the wailing and gnashing of teeth.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)lacrew
(283 posts).....And he will get torn up in NH.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)If Paul wins Iowa the mainstream conservative media (Fox et al.) may implode. They will be beside themselves and very very confused. It will be fun to watch.
The thing we don't want Is Romney winning In Iowa ending things.If Santorum can win tuesday It will be an act of god for our side.
This will push Romney even further to the right.
BrentWil
(2,384 posts)I think it will come down to Romney and the anti-Romney.
Bucky
(53,805 posts)They have good track record.I put more faith In their polling than anywhere else.
Now I believe a Romney win would be terrable for us In Iowa.we want this circus to keep going.If Romney actually wins Iowa he will
have blowout In NH.Granted he might still have some trouble In SC.But If Santorum or Gingrich can't win Iowa they might have trouble beating Romney here.Although If there Is still a split among conservatives that can help Romney In SC.That was partly how Mccain won
the SC primary In 2008.
I am hoping the circus can go on till Super tuesday at least.Here's hoping Santurm wins tesday to keep this circus going.
SixthSense
(829 posts)amazing how none of them can sustain their moment in the sun. Soon as the light of day shines on these critters their supporters scatter!
jmowreader
(50,453 posts)First, I don't think Romney is going to win Iowa. He is going in front of a bunch of teabaggers who absolutely despise him for various reasons--they don't like his religion, they don't like his flip-flopping, whatever. He will probably win New Hampshire, though.
Which brings Iowa down to Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich. Who wins depends on which batch of teabaggers bring the most people.
If the "we have to destroy the federal government in order to save it" teabaggers have the majority, Paul wins.
If the "get rid of 'Obamacare,' ban abortion and cut taxes, and we don't care about anything else" crowd is the majority, Santorum wins.
If the "erase the Obama presidency, right now" crowd turns out, Gingrich wins.
But if you get right down to it, there's not a lick of difference between ANY of them, except maybe Ron Paul, and if Paul were to get to the general election ballot he'd morph into a Standard Republican Candidate. At one time I described the GOP primary field as "one candidate with fourteen heads." That's not true anymore--we're down to seven heads, but it's still the same fucking guy. If Paul's stances really start to gain traction, they will all adopt them.
CountAllVotes
(20,854 posts)My oh my what a fine set of absolute total complete LOSERS we have here!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)cancel each other out--that they all come out of this battle beaten, bloodied and beyond redemption.
What a sad, bad joke my parents Repub party has become. And I suspect it hasn't hit bottom yet.
You can say the DNC are nothing but a bunch of corporate tools, but never would they allow such a team of losers to be fielded at the national level. SG
efhmc
(14,709 posts)to win.
TygrBright
(20,733 posts)A frothy mix is JUST what the GOP needs!
hopefully,
Bright
zeke67
(8 posts)Within that poll Paul is leading with Democratic Voters 21% to 17% Republicans. More interesting is that 32% of Paul supporters in Iowa consider themselves "very liberal", 26% somewhat liberal, 26% Moderate, 19% somewhat conservative, and 16% very conservative.
Sure does have a mixed bag of voters.
marlakay
(11,370 posts)its like which one is the least bad???
harun
(11,348 posts)rocktivity
(44,555 posts)It is now close enough for the Rethugs can steal for Romney.
rocktivity
maddogesq
(1,245 posts)Effing circus.
This one is O's to loose, mark my word.
My prediction: Romney wins GOP nom because he has the most money. Paul might do some crazy stuff and run indy. He should get some stick-on ears so he can be the mule spoiler Ross Perot.
So now, O shouldn't be scared to really start rubbing their faces in doo doo don't ya know.