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Quackers

(2,256 posts)
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:28 AM Oct 2016

Attorney: DOJ close to indicting officer who shot John Crawford III

Source: NBC Affiliate WLWT

BEAVERCREEK, Ohio — A federal investigation is getting closer to a possible indictment of a Beavercreek police officer.

The parents of John Crawford III and their attorney met with top-ranking federal investigators and U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch in Washington on Friday.

The family's attorney, Michael Wright, said the meeting was a status report on the investigation's progress involving the death of Crawford.

Crawford was shot and killed by a Beavercreek police officer on Aug. 5, 2014, while shopping at Walmart.

The 22-year-old from Fairfield had picked up a pellet gun off a shelf. He was carrying it in the store while talking on the phone.

Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/article/attorney-doj-close-to-indicting-officer-who-shot-john-crawford-iii/4371490

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secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. It's about time.... There's an eerily similar story about two white guys who shot up a Wal-Mart
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:37 AM
Oct 2016

with pellet guns or something, and they lived to tell about it... The officers just arrested them, nothing more

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
3. I'm sorry, did you just try to equate white guys actually shooting with a black guy carrying ?
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:45 AM
Oct 2016

tsk, tsk, tsk...you'll never get that job in law enforcement with that kind of poor judgement. Obviously one is a threat to the life, liberty and happiness of everyone around them. The other is just a couple guys being guys.




Unfortunately, there are probably dozens of incidents like you described that are considered so benign, they don't even get reported.

World's gotta change.
 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
6. They're not really similar. Those guys actually shot up the store. Crawford was minding his own
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:49 AM
Oct 2016

business and had the cops called on him by a couple of idiots who falsely claimed that he was aiming a gun at people.

Whether they had a call about a possible active shooter or not, the cops should have noticed that there was no commotion in the store when they arrived and that the supposed shooter was talking on his cell phone and using the gun as a crutch. Not only was there no cause for deadly force to be used, but the officer who fired didn't give Crawford any time to comply.


Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
10. I'm sorry
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 06:53 PM
Oct 2016

but this is in no way similar. The difference John Crawford died. Stop making comparisons like this

CincyDem

(6,353 posts)
2. Good to see. I hope first of many that DOJ takes on.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:41 AM
Oct 2016


I'd love to see this be the beginning of a consistent pattern. That would be a good first step in having local cops know that when they pull that trigger, it isn't going to be their mom's cousin, or some neighbor's brother in law (or whatever friend of a friend) over in the prosecutor's office deciding the next step.

We should be so lucky.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
4. I'll never forget the video
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:47 AM
Oct 2016

There have been some police shootings where I think ok maybe the video doesn't really capture everything the cop is seeing but this was so clear cut absolutely no reason to react the way the cops did.
John Crawford was doing nothing at all to justify his murder.

FarPoint

(12,344 posts)
5. The family said they felt optimistic after the visit with Attorney General.
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 08:49 AM
Oct 2016

I do hope this makes it to trial. Poor John Crawford was murdered for being comfortable in this racist society. Yes, it was a dumb thing to do, but he never posed a threat...he was walking around with an off the shelf toy gun....talking on his cell phone. The Officers NEVER cleared and secured the scene...just shot him down...then asked questions.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
7. What's most disturbing is their lack of observational ability. They were told that there was a
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 09:53 AM
Oct 2016

possible active shooter in a busy store, but failed to notice the fact that everybody seemed perfectly calm and was carrying on as if there wasn't a problem when they arrived.

Either those guys were incredibly poorly trained, or they were looking for an excuse, any excuse, to shoot somebody.

FarPoint

(12,344 posts)
8. Exactly.. .it's the simple things like the general customer's lack of panic..
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Oct 2016

Indeed...a complete failure by the Officers.

The Wizard

(12,541 posts)
9. They thought they could get away with murder
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 12:08 PM
Oct 2016

and they just might knowing how the American public sees all who wear uniforms as heroes.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
13. Funny you mention that.
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 09:48 AM
Oct 2016

The lady was my wife's cousin. We didn't know her though. It just amazing how small the world really is and how these things affect all of us.

Corey_Baker08

(2,157 posts)
14. I'm Sorry For Your Families' Loss...
Sun Oct 2, 2016, 06:58 PM
Oct 2016

I Am A Local Resident & Local News Covered It Extensively. I Would Encourage Your Family To File A Wrongful Death Lawsuit Against The City of Fairborn, FB Police Department, Walmart, The Officers Involved As Well As Any & All Involved...

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