As news of Trump’s taxes broke, he goes off script at a rally in Pennsylvania

[Judi Lynn]

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Source: Washington Post

As news of Trump’s taxes broke, he goes off script at a rally in Pennsylvania

By Jenna Johnson
October 2 at 4:47 AM

MANHEIM, Pa. — Donald Trump's campaign announced Saturday evening that the candidate would soon deliver a nine-sentence critique of comments Hillary Clinton made months ago about many of the millennials supporting her primary rival, Bernie Sanders. It was an attempt to latch onto a new headline in hopes of finally escaping the controversies that had consumed his week.

. . .

It took Trump nearly 25 minutes to read the brief statement because he kept going off on one angry tangent after another — ignoring his teleprompters and accusing Clinton of not being “loyal” to her husband, imitating her buckling at a memorial service last month, suggesting that she is “crazy” and saying she should be in prison. He urged his mostly white crowd of supporters to go to polling places in "certain areas" on Election Day to "watch" the voters there. He also repeatedly complained about having a "bum mic" at the first presidential debate and wondered if he should have done another season of “The Apprentice.”

As Trump ranted in this rural Pennsylvania town, The New York Times reported it had anonymously received Trump’s 1995 income tax returns, which show he declared a loss of $916 million -- a loss that he could use to avoid paying any federal income taxes for up to 18 years.

The evening capped one of Trump's worst weeks of the campaign season, one that started with his shaky debate performance on Monday night and went on to include a public feud with a former beauty queen, a middle-of-the-night tweet storm, attacks on the Clintons' marriage and an examination of an decades-old adult film that briefly featured Trump fully clothed.


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[mnhtnbb]

1. He is losing it...

classic case of projection when he said at this rally last night that Hillary has bad temperament and may actually be crazy.
Classic projection.

We're close to witnessing a mental breakdown here. It's not going to be pretty.

[Scarsdale]

4. Mrs. tRump

Since HE has "opened that door" bringing Bill Clinton into the battle, isn't it time to question HOW his wife got her green card? Those nude photos hardly scream "First LADY" now, do they? How is the lawsuit going against the Daily Mail, who stated that she was an ESCORT?

[Hekate]

125. It's more salient to call for investigation into his non-green card employment & treatment of...

...Eastern European models. They were badly exploited by him -- and I'd lke to know when he stopped that practice or if indeed he is still keeping it up.

Melania's career, such as it was, is not nearly as relevant.

[bulloney]

52. I think this is all part of the October Surprise we've been looking out for, except it's on Trump.

I think there will be a steady drip-drip-drip of other things that will leak into the news from here through Election Day. We may hear some tangible, corrupt things about his business dealings with countries like Russia; more scandalous things on his treatment of his wife, ex-wives and other women; a serious drug addiction; and more!

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

106. I think it's a diversion so he won't have to release his current tax return

Look at how quickly Rudy and Chris jumped on how the three papers(!) showed his "genius" and a woman (sic) could never do it.

This reminds me of the dog in the movie "Up!" who would be completely and totally foc--SQUIRREL!!!

[bora13]

109. me too

i was thinking that earlier today. It might be a thing the way it all went down.

[Coolie_J]

64. He never had it...

...ever!

[awoke_in_2003]

86. Part of me thinks

he is desperately trying to throw this- that he got in the race for publicity, not expecting to get this far. How crazy does he have to get before the GOP turns their back?

[renate]

107. part of me thinks you're right

He's between a rock and a hard place--he doesn't want to win (he's said he doesn't want to do the actual work of governing) but, even more than that, he desperately, desperately doesn't want to lose.

Sucks to be him.

[adigal]

93. I think he's well on his way - he's decompensating as we speak

Sad, but he deserves it.

[Mc Mike]

2. PA Voter Rights, Poll watcher/monitor restrictions:

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I appreciate the o.p.

The orange prince is going to run afoul of PA state law and Federal Law if he organizes his pinhead followers to demand papers from voters. PA Title 25, Sec 3047 will prevent his Sheriff Waskos from "unduly influencing, overawing or preventing electors from voting". The '82 Consent Decree says, Federally, that NO RNC people or agents of them are allowed to challenge voter eligibility or engage in voter fraud prevention policing efforts, without prior court consent.

Elections are run by the counties here, but subject to PA state law. Nobody who is not from the county is allowed to come monitor inside polls in the county. I'm going to go ahead and say that's true statewide. Any poll monitor must stand outside, at least 10' away, any Poll Watcher must represent a party or candidate, have a Watcher's certificate issued by the county, must be a county resident, can't talk to the voter / elector, can be by the sign in table not by the machines, can't engage in political campaigning in the precinct, can't wear candidate or party pins or clothing, can ask to see sign in lists and registration binder/book occasionally.

Any monitor who tries to act like a watcher invites having the police or magistrate's constable called on them. Any watcher needs papers proving they're from the county, proving they're tied in to the republican party or candidate and it's certified by the county, proving they have a prior court consent with court documents. Those papers can and should be demanded, "papers, please, trumpher." Any watcher who keeps acting up and is causing problems with the electors' rights to cast ballots should have the constables and police called on them. Any of them causing problems will result in charges levied against the state and federal repug party and dRumpf campaign officials.

866 OUR VOTE and 866 MY VOTE1 should both be called, if there's any trouble at the polls, too.

The laws on our side, crooked donnie. You can't send your Mannheim followers into Philly counties, legally. The only thing left for you to do is try to have your flunky followers pull some crooked illegal move. Try.

[Judi Lynn]

29. Sorry, I just slid it in where it belonged after seeing your post. I hurried too much. Apologies. nt

[Mc Mike]

45. I edited post 2, thanks for the o.p, recced.

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I love how the orange menace thinks he can say that "our infrastructure is the worst. It's a disaster, it's crumbling.", and then brag to his pinhead followers and the world about how he doesn't pay any taxes. I know the o.p. is about the tax scams he's pulling and the meltdown the Times and Post revelations cause, but his tax moves are all lumped together. He keeps pulling every imaginable type of tax scam and doesn't get jailed. (Can't jail the opposition, this isn't a banana republic. Of course, one party is running with a 3 word slogan/chant expressing that idea, now.)

He pretends to his followers like he's just filing itemized deductions for schedule A. "Why wouldn't he write off his mortgage payment interest, and business miles? Everybody does that, it makes him 'smart'." But he doesn't just skate close to the line on tax issues, he keeps getting caught, over and over, with tax crimes that only result in fines and penalties. That's over a half century's worth of practices. His Foundation, Organization, Institute, University all have scams, tax crime scams, associated with them. But he gets away with projecting the fake image, to his followers and maybe some undecideds, that he just takes the business deductions that he's entitled to, he wrote off the new office stapler.

The reality is that he sucks so bad at business, often on purpose, and gets a ton of money doing things that way. He gets to brag about not paying for any infrastructure, us suckers get to pay for the infrastructure he uses, and get to listen to him bitch for hundreds of hours on the public airwaves that he's displeased with US infrastructure. The low quality infrastructure we pay for isn't up to the high standards he demands and deserves. He's a little bavarian prince, after all.

Like tRump taxes and infrastructure issues, he bitched about how much money the military is wasting, during the debates. He's running a campaign with promises of huge increases in military spending though.

And tRump and the rest of the taxed enough already crowd are campaigning for control of the country on a plan that'll add ten trillion in debt spending.

[onecaliberal]

76. If he uses that line I'd attack in the debate about crumbling infrastructure

Clinton needs to hit him with the fact that corporations and business NOT contributing to the tax base is a large part of the reason.

[Mc Mike]

128. He won't pay, his party keeps fighting to protect the laws that let him not pay.

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He's smart, he's just using the laws that the system set in place, he's running to change those laws and that system, as the top guy in the party that put those laws in place and defends them to the death.

It's like his Putin Ukraine statements: "I know Putin. We know and admire each other. Putin won't dare invade Ukraine, he fears my wrath. I know Putin invaded Ukraine. It's awful, it's Obama's fault, he's terrible. The people in Ukraine want Putin there. I'm going to keep it that way. I don't know Putin." p.s. No arms for Ukraine in my platform, scew NATO.

He can say stuff like that to dimwit followers, but can't expect normal people to listen to that kind of garbage from his dimwit followers when they try to back him, in any way that isn't based on physical or armed intimidation. Unless the argument is "shut up or I'll thrash you, I have a gun", the trumpher is bound to lose.

That $900+ million dollar loss represents a ton of crashed businesses and people put out of work, and a huge hammer blow to Atlantic City and New Jersey state.

[onecaliberal]

130. When you lose 1 billion in a year with a booming market, you don't get to proclaim your business

Prowess. The only reason trump has anything is because his father gave it to him with the name and contacts

[Mc Mike]

132. The wicked pissah here is that they made ALL THEIR MONEY ON TAXPAYER FUNDED HOUSING.

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That's where David Cay Johnston's investigations of Fred and dRumpfenfuhrer are so important. How Fred got so rich is the governing agencies said "Here's some government funding tax dollars, here's some tax holidays, here's some tax deferments, here's some tax credits, here's some extraodinary easements." Fred made the money, his incompetent son inherited it. The agencies keep giving Li'l donnie our tax dollars, and he says thanks, then tells his followers how the crooked politicians kiss his ass because he pays them off. (Except Bondi.)

Even the post office building he just turned into a D.C. hotel was paid for by tax dollars, and got privatized. Nixon "got the government out of the USPS", but the facilities were built and paid for with taxpayers' money, not ratepayers'.

[erronis]

81. +N (big N). Excellent post!

[Mc Mike]

129. Watch and report. Papers please, trumphler.

[anamandujano]

62. If they are informed that their names will be on record, none of his losers will show up.

They might brag about being deplorables but will balk at possible fines or worse.

I hope laws like this are in place all over the country. This information needs to be publicly dispersed and emphasized.

He is asking for his numbnuts to interfere with voting.

[Mc Mike]

127. The "States" drop down menu topic on the left should be where

the pertinent state info is requested and posted. But the '82 Consent Decree is federal. Anyone should use and cite it in any state. I picked up that info in this Ari Berman Nation Article:

https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-is-encouraging-intimidation-and-racial-profiling-at-the-polls/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=New%20Campaign&utm_term=daily

The link therein about the Federal Law:

http://electionlawblog.org/?p=85289

The original illegal crooked moves that were made in New Jersey in '81, which resulted in 35 years (so far) of Federal legal oversight of the repugs' election "integrity" efforts, were made by a drumpfenfuhrer campaign operative and long-time gop operative, the sleazy crazy mutant nazi swine Roger Stone.

I've seen Gothmog talk about TX election law extensively, here. I don't know your state, but go to your state forum and ask for info, and post info. The OURVOTE and MYVOTE1 numbers are important, too, for pre-election early-voting problems, election day problems, and post-election irregularities reporting. If the repug elections people picture themselves getting perp walked past cameras, they won't be bold enough to pull their criminal moves.

[vlyons]

3. One word . . .

[Stuart G]

6. Great way to show us the truth about Don.

[Coyotl]

25. Thanks for the suggestion :-)

[Judi Lynn]

30. Down to the tiny hands! Thank you. n/t

[MyOwnPeace]

67. Same place....

Ronald Reagan went to "think."

[Coyotl]

78. LOL. Reagan had a lot of followers too. The fad continues.

[MyOwnPeace]

84. I remember that..

from an old Richard Belzer comedy routine on HBO.
He noted that Reagan had just returned from Bethesda Naval Hospital after having polyps removed, as well as a tumor on his nose. His comment:
"Now we know where he goes to think."

[Granny M]

5. I'm sure he is going to lose,

but I am concerned that he's not going to go willingly. I'm concerned about his riling up the deplorables and violence on and after election day. I am hoping there is some preparedness for this.

Please forgive my nervousness. I don't want to be negative, but his campaign most terrifying.

[bucolic_frolic]

8. Very concerned as well

His intent is transparent

He is stepping beyond what is so uniquely American, free and open elections,
and tolerance, and looking to a bright future with optimism and resolve

There may be incidents, sadly, but our incumbent leaders federally and in
all states must reassure the public of efforts for a peaceful and open
process on America's election day

[maryellen99]

12. You're not the only one worried nt

[Mamajami]

14. He needs to be MORE concerned with the deplorables when they find out that he has conned them

too. They loved him for his racism, his business acumen, and their own hate for Clinton. They still have his racism but his business acumen is shown to be based on fraud and "not pulling his own weight" economically and his UNPATRIOTIC behavior, both financially here and abroad.

Here are some words we need to keep tweeting about him

FRAUD, FRAUDULENT
SACAMMER, SCAM ARTIST
UNPATRIOTIC, UNAMERICAN,
MOOCHER
HOOCHER
ADULTERER
FAKE
SEXIST
LIAR
LOSER

and wait for it....FAILURE!
Say business failure hidden behind other peoples' money.

[SunSeeker]

39. "MOOCHER HOOCHER"

[Mamajami]

48. I have a few more but they are "nasty." I'll wait for him to go "nasty."

[mopinko]

60. we can hope that happens before nov 8.

if they turn on him first, maybe it wont blow up so bad on the rest of us.
maybe they will go blow up a golf club.

[cab67]

46. I've been worried about this as well.

I cannot, for the life of me, envision Trump giving a concession speech that any rational person would describe as 'gracious.' In fact, he may not even concede if he loses.

[bulloney]

53. That, and how some circles of his rabid base react.

[Stonepounder]

59. A Trump win would obviously be a disaster for the country and the world.

But a Trump loss is also going to be bad news as well. He tells his supporters 'go to some (read black and/or minority) and watch. He's already pounding the 'the only way I lose is if the election is rigged' meme.

When Trump loses he will be screaming that the election was rigged and at the very least dog-whistling his supporters to go out and take over so he can be President. There will be violence on election eve if/when he loses.

How long will it take for the US to recover from Trump?

[NastyRiffraff]

70. You're right to be concerned

He has telegraphed that he will NOT accept a loss...he walked back his statement he made in the debate that he would. He is encouraging his supporters to "watch" at the polls. He plans to either try to steal the election, or cause mayhem and even violence to disrupt it.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

99. Yes - his urging his followers to go to quote 'certain neighborhoods' spoke volumes

[liberal N proud]

7. He is dangerously close to having a stroke on stage

He can't stand criticism, it causes him to react with vengeful attacks and you can tell is raging.

[bucolic_frolic]

9. +10x^^

vitriol is a caustic inner disease

[llmart]

27. You say that like it's a bad thing.

n/t

[muriel_volestrangler]

10. Link here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/02/as-news-of-trumps-taxes-broke-he-goes-off-script-at-a-rally-in-pennsylvania/

[Judi Lynn]

31. Sorry, I just found out it was missing. Thank you. n/t

[yardwork]

40. Remarkable article. Everybody should read this.

[muriel_volestrangler]

43. Even more remarkable is that 40% of American voters may choose him

even after things like that meltdown.

The "crazification factor" of 27% may need to be updated. Or the amount Trump beats that by is the sexist-but-not-batshit-crazy amount.

[yardwork]

56. Yeah. Depressing.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. And this article reported in the Washington Post

a beacon of patriotism and journalistic standards

and a hats off to the great patriot who provided - did you read
it - anonymously, a copy of Trump's old tax returns

There are Americans opposing this power grab in whatever way they
can

[Koinos]

13. Link to New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

[Judi Lynn]

32. Thanks. I didn't make it in time first time around. Sorry. n/t

[avebury]

15. Not much of a great businessman if he lost

that much money.

Maybe the tax laws need to be updated to limit the number of years a tax lose can be carried over. Eighteen years seems like too long a time. So his business must have gone off the rail and he gets to benefit from that for years.

[TexasBushwhacker]

117. There should be a dollar limit and a shorter time limit

Maybe there should be an AMT for businesses based on their gross (rather than net).

[BumRushDaShow]

16. They were playing clips of his meltdown locally here in Philly

on the news radio station.

The town he went to is in Lancaster County and about 1/2 way between Lancaster (city) or Lititz, PA (Johnson & Johnson facility, formerly Merck/Warner Lambert/Pfizer) and Hershey, PA (yes, the HQ of the chocolate giant). I.e., it's a rural area punctuated by a couple large corporations, all in Amish country. Have been through there several times and yes you do see the horse & buggys on the roads in the area.

[drm604]

20. And I'll point out for those who don't know

that rural PA is generally very conservative. The only reason PA tends to go blue in Presidential elections is because of the heavily populated Philadelphia and Pittsburgh areas. (I'm in the Philly region). Without those areas PA would probably be reliably red.

I have relatives in the redder areas. Some of them are crazy conservative. I'm talking about well spoken college educated people who are Trump supporters. It's insane.

[Marcuse]

87. The saying goes that

Pennsylvania has Pittsburgh in the west, Philly in the east and Alabama in between.

[justiceischeap]

24. I grew up in Lititz

And when I moved out of PA 15 years ago Lancaster (city) was still fairly conservative but I hear it's changing.

[BumRushDaShow]

35. It's a very pretty area

and I can see why folks there would lean "conservative" in terms of them passing on generational practices and survival skills which involve "self sufficiency" due to not being close to highly urban areas....and then have someone ("the government&quot come in and disrupt them. However from a political standpoint, the elected leaders from that camp have tended to be tone deaf, imposing homogeneous "one size fit all" policies that cannot even come close to addressing the cultural and economic diversity of this country.

I think the "change" may be because of a flight to "exburbia" in the '80s & '90s, to western Chester County and into Lancaster County, from the older and more developed rim counties of Philly like Montgomery & Delaware Counties, and that tended to dilute the sentiment of some of those who were native there.

This particularly happened when large office parks were opened up in Montgomery County and Chester County making the further west counties a "rim" around the King of Prussia area. And those who moved out there were used to having the same type of infrastructure that had been standard in the older suburban developments... So they began to realize the value of "government" - especially when the wells dried up and the state highways going through their areas were considered "secondary" and "tertiary" roads by PennDOT when it came to snow removal. I.e., I remember back during the 1994 ice storms when so many in the western burbs screamed about 202 and 30 being considered "secondary" roads (with I-95 & I-76 as "primary&quot , which delayed them being cleared, after which the state abruptly ran out of salt for both the roads and consumers and they were completely SOL (but still had to get to those office parks).

[drm604]

68. I'm in Montgomery County.

Montco as a whole has leaned Republican, because of some very wealthy areas, but the county seat, Norristown, (where I am) is strongly Democratic (probably because of its high minority population). I think Montco as a whole may be moving left recently.

[BumRushDaShow]

71. I have a sister who lives in Montco

For awhile, there was a migration of middle-class Philadelphians who moved out there (i.e., over the past 20 years, replacing those who fled further west into other counties). And you can see how over that time, the county turned purple - notably beginning when Marjorie Margoles-Mezvinsky captured the 13th congressional district almost 25 years ago, all the way up to that last Commissioner's race with Democrats grabbing 2 of the 3 seats and sealing the County control for Democrats.

There is now a reverse-migration going on where the millennials who were born out there are moving into the city. It should be interesting to see what happens over the next decade.

[drm604]

73. I said "recently" but I guess 20 - 25 years isn't exactly recent.

At my age, 20 years ago seems recent, lol.

[BumRushDaShow]

75. Same here

After Shrub, I swear I lost 10 years and now I'm quickly approaching 20...

[moose65]

113. That's a beautiful area

I've been to Lancaster County several times in my 50 years - beautiful place! I guess I can see why it's conservative, but I've read several articles recently that said the area is changing- is it close enough to Philly that's it's actually getting some of that suburban overflow? The city of Lancaster has now actually become quite large, with most of the shopping centers and restaurants that people expect. Hopefully the trend will continue!

[riversedge]

17. "The evening capped one of Trump's worst weeks of the campaign season, one that started with his sha

We need 4 more weeks of Trump have a bad weeks. Don't know if America can withstand his abuse.

[drm604]

18. I'm concerned about the way he's been urging his followers to watch voters in certain areas.

What purpose can this serve other than to harass and intimidate?

What can such watchers do anyway? Confront people in line (based on appearance) demanding IDs as if they are officially authorized to do so?

I can imagine fights breaking out and people avoiding the polls out of fear.

I can imagine open carry enthusiasts showing up with weapons displayed and harassing and intimidating people. "Do you have an ID"? "Are you allowed to vote here?" "Are you sure that you can vote?" "Are you even an American?" etc.

There may be some very real problems.

[Granny M]

19. Very serious.

There's a real threat from the deplorables.

[drm604]

21. These are people who think that they have the right to do these kinds of things.

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They believe that they have the right, even the obligation, to enforce what they believe to be the law. They seem to believe wholeheartedly that they know the law and the constitution better than law enforcement and even the courts and they believe in citizen vigilantism to enforce their view of the law or, even worse, their view of the bible.

[jtuck004]

83. They are called ISIS. Or supporters of the Nasty Man. Tough for me to tell the difference.n/t

[roamer65]

63. If any show up at my polling place, I'll call 911.

In my book, it will be domestic terrorism.

I suggest all the rest of you do the same.

[C_U_L8R]

22. This is what losing ugly looks like

Fortunately, it will be relatively quick.

[blogslut]

23. "How many of you have acid-washed or bleached a Tweet"

WTF? What does that mean?

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. I suppose it's a metaphor for disposing of the evidence

When Trump has something incriminating (I'd say 'embarrassing', but he hasn't enough shame to be embarrassed by anything), he has to get rid of it. When it's physical (DNA, fingerprints, bloodstains ...) he, or his, um, New York business partners, use acid or bleach to destroy it. This is how he lives.

[Maeve]

49. It also goes to his misunderstanding of BleachBit

The program Hillary used to clean up her computer and free up space.

[sinkingfeeling]

26. In clips this morning, he looks and sounds completely insane.

[saltpoint]

28. Trump kind of bulldozed his GOP

opponents in the primaries, but he's finding the general election a much steeper grade.

I guess he thought he could just wing it and voters would flock to his camp.

He's also being out-maneuvered by the Clinton-Kaine campaign.

Politics aside, the pressure on him must be great.

[ronnie624]

74. The fatigue is very apparent.

How he wishes he was back on Apprentice.

What a fool.

[saltpoint]

92. I wondered the same thing, ronnie624. Does

Trump think running for high office is like doing a reality tv show?

I've never run for any office, but something tells me a presidential campaign is a lot more involved.

Trump is looking shopworn and sounding erratic.

[ronnie624]

111. Campaigning for high office, surely requires athlete level stamina. n/t

[adigal]

94. Welcome to Extreme Vetting, Donald! Nt

[saltpoint]

96. Yes. He's under a lot more scrutiny now

and is under pressure to conduct himself like an adult.

As unreasonable as that is!!!!

[Skittles]

123. he is finally going up against people who don't just take his word for it

he's such an asshole

[saltpoint]

126. Yes. The media are tearing into Trump's

surrogates too. (It's about time.) I thought Tapper wanted to punch Giuliani yesterday. Can't say I blame him.

[Coyotl]

88. Appealing to his base again.

[George II]

33. He does "Captain Queeg" better than Humphrey Bogart did, right down to the "defective equipment":

[muriel_volestrangler]

38. The difference is, Jose Ferrer can then make you feel sorry for Queeg

as a man who served honorably, before he went over the edge. No one can do that with Trump, even with acid and bleach.

[BeyondGeography]

34. The comments are mostly fun for a change

Lots of people questioning the sanity of Trump supporters.

[SunSeeker]

37. I think this exchange from the SNL debate skit sums this up best:

Baldwin's stunned Trump paused and responded, "My microphone is broke. She broke it with Obama. She and Obama stole my microphone."

Che's Holt then asked, "Secretary Clinton, what do you think about that?"

"I think I'm going to be president," McKinnon's Clinton quipped to huge cheers from the audience.

'Saturday Night Live' kicks off with Baldwin's Trump taking on McKinnon's Clinton
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/01/media/snl-returns/index.html

[ScubaSteve]

41. Crazy attracts Crazy

Asked a couple of female coworkers, who I thought were intelligent professionals, if they were for Trump. One says she is because she hates Hillary over Bill having so many affairs, and the other says he’s not a racist, he’s a businessman, how can he be a racist?

I was flabbergasted! Apparently whatever he says is what they think and because it’s out loud that somehow makes it true and him their hero. Yet they have no conception of civil discourse or FACTs.

Very scary…

[oberliner]

42. I watched that rally on YouTube

He went off-prompter for huge chunks of it.

He literally impersonated Hillary walking to her car unsteadily.

When he went off on those other tangents described in the article above, one can see who the real Trump is and what he really thinks.

As opposed to the teleprompter Trump who reads lines written for him by someone else - lines that he probably has never seen before reading them off screen.

[Island Blue]

44. Sounds like he was coked up.

Again.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

47. The yuge loss broke the tax prep software & it had to be manually typed; it was that stupefying. .nt

[benld74]

50. Grifter

[riversedge]

51. The WaPost headline is very tame for some of the awful things he said.

Tweet:

Trump is a horrible man to mock Hilary after she had been diagnosed with pneumonia! https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/10/02/as-news-of-trumps-taxes-broke-he-goes-off-script-at-a-rally-in-pennsylvania/ #p2 #sheswithus #uniteblue

[apcalc]

54. A poor workman blames his tools.

[getagrip_already]

55. It sounds like he dismissed....

Kkkelly Anne. She was the candidate manager and was able to keep him on prompter. He must have sent her away. Come to think of it, she hasn't been on camera much either.

[sarcasmo]

57. Last night Trump tweeted, Alec Baldwin should be expecting a lawsuit. LMFAO

[mnhtnbb]

65. Did he really? You have a link to the tweet?

The guy is really coming unglued.

[Frank Cannon]

72. No, he didn't.

But it wouldn't surprise me if he did something like that.

[Third Doctor]

58. What a disgusting man.

What type of person jokes about someone's illness. You can pass out (I almost did) or even die from pneumonia. That was sick.

[Justice]

61. He was more than 100 minutes late -

Must have been seething

[turbinetree]

66. YEAR 1995 + 18 = Year 2013, Think this is why he doesn't want to release the current one's?

they show the link, of how he doesn't pay anything into the system, but he sure does enjoy them when others like you and me and millions of others are footing the bill, and he run's around saying how much of a f****ing patriot he is--------------right, and I got a bridge, and all of the Republicans running for office back this puke


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/02/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/01/us/politics/donald-trump-taxes.html



And just think, while he was getting this BS, which you and I can't even imagine to get he was going into Communist government of Cuba with $68,000 + of this money to do what with, when there was an EMBARGO, US Citizens couldn't spend on penny in the country, not one----------------treason is treason

[ronnie624]

77. Paid no taxes AND had his grubby little hands out for 9/11 aid for small businesses,

AFTER presumably making big profits that year.

Filth.

[turbinetree]

80. Just looking at this return

is just disgusting he has a -15,000,000+ million on the line and then to add more insult to you and me he gets back over 45,000.00, if I read it correctly on to top of paying squat, nilda, zilch, zero.

Then while New York is reeling from 2001, (as a side note I lost my United Airlines Aircraft technician job at Newark, NJ) ,and I am getting taxed on my unemployment benefits (gotta thank Ronald Reagan -----that f***ing joke), then I go back to college to get my degree, and I am still paying for that, while this hypocrite, got damn near everything, yeah he did get everything on that silver f***ing spoon, and I and you and everyone else are paying his taxes, because he uses a 1977 depreciated costs on his buildings and airplane.

Think I or you can do that on my home and car.

Hell I can't even qualify as a business let alone get depreciated costs to write off, and if I do use them and file for bankruptcy he gets money back while I don't get that law to protect me, now I have to go to court and pay.

And to think that the republicans like him are living off the Lewis Powell Memo ever since.

This U.S. Supreme Court and the republican controlled congress are letting him get away with this stuff and many others just like him, like the Koch's, Popes and such, corrupting the system while the peons are subsidizing this "stuff" ---------I just don't understand how people can support the republicans, they don't support you, they are a scam and this "guy" is a prime example, just like Mittens, the Bushes, you name it Paul Ryan, Mitch McConnell., Kelly Ayotte, Toomey, Grassley, Kirk, McCarthy, etc.........why does he have international businesses, he doesn't have to pay taxes, he uses that country against another country, just like Apple is doing Boeing, Wells Fargo, they of shore the profits, someone has to pay




Wado ( thank you)

[erronis]

91. You are right on - thanks!

[DAMANgoldberg]

110. The carry forward position at that time...

I have seen it explained that a loss can go back 3 years and forward up to 15 years to cover any income during that period.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/02/496303458/how-donald-trump-could-have-not-paid-income-taxes-for-18-years

The law is currently back 2 years and forward 20 years.

This could explain up to 2010. I don't believe there is a limit in the number of times you can do this in a lifetime, ICBW. It would not shock me if he did this again bet. 2008 and 2010 due to the real estate bubble bursting.

[turbinetree]

119. He was doing this has much as he can

he didn't care.
He got the million from his father, and he was integrated into his fathers development corporation and then when he got that first building he started writing off his income against the depreciation of the building, as he was tearing it down.

He was pitting our income(s) that we paid in taxes against his, but with one caveat, he claimed to be a developer, we couldn't even though we buy homes, and cars.

So when the interest rates where removed from your and mine taxes, which we use to be able to write -off on our taxes, back in the late 80's and early 90's he still got them off his business, cars and others means, they were an expense, so the short fall was that we the taxpayers had to make up that loss, while we could still write-off school, mortgage, and medical, property, if you qualify spending 7.6% of your income on medical, not dead beat donnie, its a business expense he got over 100% as a write-off, and then he gets money back, and his team thinks he is a genius , no, he and others in that elite boat went to congress and rigged the system against us, we are not the problem. The Lewis Powell Memo is the problem, and what dumpster wants to do if he's elected, the middle class is TOAST:

http://billmoyers.com/content/the-powell-memo-a-call-to-arms-for-corporations/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/02/business/economy/if-trump-gets-his-way-real-estate-will-get-even-more-tax-breaks.html

http://www.creonline.com/real-estate-professional-tax-loophole.html

[DAMANgoldberg]

134. sorry not here daily,

Hello, I am aware of the "business writeoff" loophole in the tax code. You basically incorporate or LLC yourself, at which most everything you do can be written off if documented for "business" purposes. This function is legitimate in many ways, but not how The Donald and others execute it. I do agree that we are FUBAR if this cretin is allowed in the White House for anything but a visitor's pass.

[turbinetree]

135. Thank you ( Wado)

[enid602]

69. what goes around . . .

"...New York Times reported it had anonymously received Trump’s 1995 income tax returns...' Makes you wonder if maybe tRump stiffed his accountant for tax preparation fees.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

79. I imagine his inner circle is giving him only good news....

[Cracklin Charlie]

98. I am losing track of the timeline.

Reporter lady said they contacted Assface's attorneys Friday night, before releasing Saturday night.

When did Assface have the twitter meltdown in which, in addition to attacks on Machado, he urged his supporters to ignore anyone from the press quoting anonymous sources? I think that was early Friday morning.

So, the twitter meltdown was prior to the NYT contact with his attorneys?

Wow, he has had a terrible week.

[Cracklin Charlie]

102. Yes, this scandals are fast and furious.

I was trying to decide if the late night tweets preceded the NYT contacting his rep, and I think the tweets came first.

My reason for asking was that one of those tweets warned people to ignore reporting citing anonymous sources.

Maybe another new scandal?

[Moonwalk]

85. And to top it all off, he just got Sanders supporters angry at him rather than Clinton...

...which was the whole point of this fiasco talk. To get everyone talking about what she said, not what he's been saying. To quote from the article:

Rather than continuing, Trump demeaned and mocked Sanders himself, saying that he has “a much bigger movement than Bernie Sanders ever had” and that he has “much bigger crowds than Bernie Sanders ever had.” Trump accused Sanders of tarnishing his legacy by making a “deal with the devil” and supporting Clinton.

“Crazy Bernie,” Trump said at one point.

So...he's just made sure sure everyone will be talking about what HE said about Bernie?

[Moonwalk]

89. I'm Reading the article...and OMG...He was off the rails before, but now he's in open country....

...and heading out to sea! Quoting from the article:

He reflected on how his movement has “the smartest people… the sharpest people… the most amazing people.” He said the pundits — “most of them aren’t worth the ground they’re standing on, some of that ground could be fairly wealthy ground” — have never seen a phenomenon like this.

[mnhtnbb]

95. He's delusional and manic.

Seriously.

The men in the white coats will be coming for him shortly.

My husband--who is a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst--said this morning Trump is in need of some Lithium.

[Moonwalk]

103. How is that Lithium going to interact with the cocaine?

The number of things that have to be taken into account when coming up with prescriptions for him is getting quite mind-boggling

[mnhtnbb]

105. .

[wordpix]

90. he lost almost a billion $ yet with each bankruptcy, he got richer

No wonder the pols he donated to won't talk about the favors they gave him. No doubt Ghouliani is one.

[SCVDem]

97. Guess the tune.

I don't care what they say I won't live in a world with a tRump.

Please lock me away,..........

[ffr]

101. Time to send out his surrogates.

[bucolic_frolic]

104. If this election is close, Pennsylvania holds the key

I know our Democratic Party is going all out, I've never seen it like
this before

and Trump is spending days here, repeated trips.

We need every vote we can get

[renate]

108. that is one Trump rally I would have LOVED to watch from start to finish

I hope MSNBC or somebody replays it in its entirety.

Or, please God, maybe somewhere there's a transcript.

[bucolic_frolic]

112. He must be counting an awful lot on ethnicity

Historically those populations in the counties he's targeting
are PA Dutch, German

Drumpf, anything with a pf in it is not unknown to them

[babylonsister]

114. "...wondered if he should have done another season of “The Apprentice.”

So presidential, as usual, and sticking with the issues. Oye.

[Skittles]

115. he is in serious need of a mental health evaluation

seriously, he is a sick man

[Nitram]

116. Rope a Dope, Donald's on the ropes.

He's like fish that jumped out of the tank flopping on the living room floor. Way out of his depth.I admit I'm enjoying watching Dump flounder.

[TonyPDX]

118. Imagine-- he's the best they can do!

[rafeh1]

120. If a democratic candidate paid 0 taxes in 20 years

Can you imagine if a democratic candidate for president was hiding his tax returns and hadnt paid any tax in last 20 years. The right wing whiners besides being losers are also big hypocrites.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

121. That whole "loyal" thing is significant in a "master" or "owner" mindset....

Just as a dog is "loyal" to its master.

It's already known Trump thinks of his wife as his property.

[nvme]

122. The Donald and the Trumpettes

I just peed myself laughing. Upon hearing Christy extol the brilliance of Trumps tax evasion. All I could think about is how funny to see the big turd Trump dumped and how all the Repubs will be howling about how sweet it smells.

[Hekate]

124. Too wonderful. I can hardly wait for him to start frothing at the mouth.

[Mc Mike]

133. I've finally gotten through minute 26 via an India site with a fiery lion logo.

I'm not quite done yet. Keep having to stop it to see if it's close to being over yet. He told an audience of rural white, non-hispanic, non-black, non-union members that the blacks, hispanics, union people were on his side, lock her up, get ready for civil war.

One time, Morton Downey screamed at one of his guests "I never yell at my guests!", while inside the guest's personal space. He rarely had anyone on who wasn't part of his pro-wrestling nazi-propaganda reality-tv-actor insiders. But having to watch this dRumpfenfuhrer speech, forget analyzing it for huge lies and projections of his crime and evil intents, is like watching Downey give that one stupid nazi propaganda line, over and over and over again.

Trying to find a long interrupted vid of this was tough, because of all the wading through altered ones I had to view.

It's minute 38, I'm done, it's not. Keep kracking up, kon. Go down down down, little don.