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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Mon Oct 24, 2016, 10:26 PM Oct 2016

Polls are 'phony,' Trump insists; 'we are winning'

Source: MSN/Associated Press

ST. AUGUSTINE, Fla. (AP) — A defiant Donald Trump blamed his worsening campaign struggles on "phony polls" from the "disgusting" media on Monday, fighting to energize his most loyal supporters as his path to the presidency shrinks.

Just 14 days until the election, the Republican nominee campaigned in battleground Florida as his team conceded publicly as well as privately that crucial Pennsylvania may be slipping away. That would leave a razor-thin pathway to the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House on Nov. 8.

Despite continued difficulties with women and minorities, Trump refuses to soften his message in the campaign's final days to broaden his coalition. The strategy leaves no margin for error. Yet Trump offered an optimistic front in the midst of a three-day tour through Florida as thousands began voting in person. "I believe we're actually winning," Trump declared during a round table discussion with farmers gathered next to a local pumpkin patch.

A day after suggesting the First Amendment to the Constitution may give the press too much freedom, he insisted that the media are promoting biased polls to discourage his supporters from voting.

Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/polls-are-phony-trump-insists-we-are-winning/ar-AAjkdWR

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Polls are 'phony,' Trump insists; 'we are winning' (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2016 OP
Go Home You Big Baby And Play With Your Iron Pyrite Grassy Knoll Oct 2016 #2
Let our side think that he is... Chicago1980 Oct 2016 #3
Yes, GOTV as if Trump were ahead! Beartracks Oct 2016 #7
He really needs to see a good doctor as I think he has some severe mental problems. nt cstanleytech Oct 2016 #4
Trump's not winning, just whining. C Moon Oct 2016 #5
The only thing phony is him DemInND Oct 2016 #6
It must be difficult for Trump's saltpoint Oct 2016 #8
"crucial Pennsylvania may be slipping away." BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #9
The media like a contentious narrative, saltpoint Oct 2016 #14
The irony being a state like LA having not voted for a Democratic Prez since 1996 BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #18
Very good point. Possibly early on Trump's saltpoint Oct 2016 #19
Trump's and the media's problem is looking at the PA electoral map BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #20
That's plausible. The reports from the Philadelphia area saltpoint Oct 2016 #21
The map didn't show up in my previous post but here is another BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #22
Wonderful. Thank you for putting saltpoint Oct 2016 #24
Ok, this is funny... smirkymonkey Oct 2016 #10
The Great Pumpkin arose and pointed him out, and then told him he was winning muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #11
Dump used to boast about how they were "winning all the polls!" Nitram Oct 2016 #12
Is Trump channeling Baghdad Bob? Odin2005 Oct 2016 #13
Fakey polls? bucolic_frolic Oct 2016 #15
Baghdad Don Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #16
He loved the same polls in the primaries dalton99 Oct 2016 #17
Winning Like Charlie Sheen... hexola Oct 2016 #23
"Don't believe anything you see or hear Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2016 #25

DemInND

(164 posts)
6. The only thing phony is him
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:22 AM
Oct 2016

The guy is a real psycho. What more can you say? He knows it, with all the reports of early voting and the turnout, people know how important it is to send this turd down the toilet.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
8. It must be difficult for Trump's
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:40 AM
Oct 2016

family and campaign staff to be around him, both over the long haul and especially the last few weeks.

What would we learn about his kids and his campaign staff if we could determine if their loyalty to Trump is about his money? The kids are surely bright enough to know that the election is all but lost. Yet they are presumably the chief beneficiaries of his largesse. Are they motivated only by greed for their handful of the cash or does their self-awareness include the idea that this campaign was ill-conceived, miserably conducted, and likely to end badly?

If all they want is their share of a Trump media network, we're back to greed as the primary motivator.

And there's also the question of Trump's mental health. Most grown-ups do not behave or speak in ways he's behaved and spoken. I'll defer to qualified clinicians on Trump's well-being, but from a lay perspective, he would appear to have some serious issues. Shouldn't his kids and staff care more about his personhood than his portfolio, or are they as money-driven as he is?

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
9. "crucial Pennsylvania may be slipping away."
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:33 AM
Oct 2016

Excuse my language but I don't even know why the fucking media ever put PA "in play" in the first place.

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
14. The media like a contentious narrative,
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 09:31 AM
Oct 2016

I guess, so Pennsylvania got to be the setting for one of 'em.

Trump said early on that the only way he loses Pennsylvania is if Clinton cheats.

Looks like she's not cheating at all and is still kicking his sorry butt.

Then last week we heard of the Democratic Party busing people in from god knows where to vote "six times" for dead people. This from Rudy Giuliani, that beacon of uplifting vision and civic stability.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
18. The irony being a state like LA having not voted for a Democratic Prez since 1996
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:27 AM
Oct 2016

being "deep red" and not "in play" but a state like PA that hasn't voted for a GOP Prez since 1988 somehow being perpetually "in play".

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
19. Very good point. Possibly early on Trump's
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:30 AM
Oct 2016

internal polling showed some significant support in Pennsylvania and Trump interpreted this as "a likely win."

Just guessing, but there probably as no statistical grounds to make that interpretation. But it may have been made the way most other things are done in the Trump campaign -- by bluster.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
20. Trump's and the media's problem is looking at the PA electoral map
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:51 AM
Oct 2016


and rubbing their hands in glee not realizing all that "red" that they see is coming out of counties with less than 100,000 population.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
22. The map didn't show up in my previous post but here is another
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:20 PM
Oct 2016

from 2012 -



The population of this 1 county in SE (my city Philly - in red) -



is about the same as the total of 9 of these 10 in SW PA (which excludes Allegheny County that includes Pittsburgh) -



If you add 1 more county to Philly (Montgomery - the long one that located NW), those 2 would equal the 10 in the SW (including Allegheny)!

They keep getting fooled but when the east and urban areas in the west and NW turn out, we turn the state blue!

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
24. Wonderful. Thank you for putting
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 07:19 PM
Oct 2016

up those visuals. It drives the point home. A lot of us in many other states are rooting for Democrats in Pennsylvania to have a really big night.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
10. Ok, this is funny...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 06:46 AM
Oct 2016

"I believe we're actually winning," Trump declared during a round table discussion with farmers gathered next to a local PUMPKIN PATCH!"

How could they even find him amongst all those pumpkins? He would have blended right in.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
11. The Great Pumpkin arose and pointed him out, and then told him he was winning
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 08:18 AM
Oct 2016

He has the Greatest supporters.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
25. "Don't believe anything you see or hear
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 12:01 AM
Oct 2016

unless I tell it to you." This is pretty much what Trump has been saying this whole time. Don't believe anyone, except him. Where does he get all his credibility from? He thinks we should just take his word for it. When all the media outlets report on the same story, but it is a story that makes Trump look bad in some way, we're supposed to think there is some complicated conspiracy going on. Well, I guess they are all conspiring to find the truth about Donald Trump.

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