Pope: Bankrupt morals to save banks but not suffering people
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Source: Associated Press
Pope: Bankrupt morals to save banks but not suffering people
Updated 2:06 pm, Saturday, November 5, 2016
VATICAN CITY (AP) Pope Francis has denounced the "scandalous" amounts of money that governments and world institutions have found to save ailing banks but not suffering people, including migrants who are dying as they try to cross the Mediterranean Sea.
The pope on Saturday denounced these policies as a "bankruptcy of humanity."
The pope spoke during a meeting at the Vatican with an international group that included environmentalists, labor union activists and indigenous rights activists. In the audience was the former president of Uruguay, Jose Mujica, a defender of the poor.
Francis said: "What happens in the world of today is that when a bank is bankrupt, scandalous sums immediately appear to save it," while much smaller amounts of money cannot be found "to save the brothers that suffer so much."
Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/world/article/Pope-Bankrupt-morals-to-save-banks-but-not-10595689.php
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Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)A really tiny amount.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)niyad
(113,259 posts)and people will continue to think that he is wonderful.
do the suffering include the women who do not get full health care at catholic hospitals, frankie? or, any women at all.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)But he makes many steps in the right direction.
We need ordination of Sisters, and Nuns and Priests should not have to be celibate.
The last 2 popes were nazis. This guy isn't.
I'm catholic, and never look at you like you're not fully human.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)interesting
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)I'm not big on proselytizing or conversions. Any religion, that isn't death worship centered, is good to me.
Of course, people who believe in "no religion" can be some of the greatest, most morally sound people. Though I definitely didn't make the statement you feel I made, or alternatively, the lampoonish paraphrasing you made of my post missed the mark entirely, skit.
I think about 3 different examples where non-religious people engaged in a struggle against awesomely powerful and bad enemies went religious, and it helped them -- Non religious Jewish people in the Warsaw resistance, city dwelling Native Americans in the Pine Ridge battles, and educated lapsed Catholics fighting against US backed nazi death squads in Latin America. They were all fighting against death worshippers. Nazis are death worshippers.
That being said, as a Catholic I like the Jewish faith best in terms of proselytizing. The good religious ones know what they have, and don't care if anyone else agrees or knows it. They'll never come knocking at my door to tell me how I have it wrong, asking me to join in some religious endeavor organized along Amway distribution-style lines. Having to tell everyone about how you're right theologically smacks of insecurity and desperation, to me. Almost everybody is right.
Where my church falls down on proselytization is the same week they announced they were closing a couple dozen churches in Detroit, (a few years ago under Ratzinger), the church took up a second collection (nationwide) to support mission efforts to spread the Catholic faith to people living in primitive conditions in the 3rd world, who hadn't had the chance to hear about catholicism yet. So they sucked all the profits they could out of low income catholics in Detroit, then said sayonara and sold the tax exempt church property there, told them you're on your own, in terms of continuing to practice your catholic faith. The church was looking at remote areas in Indonesia, Africa, South America, where there are indigenous people in proximity to untapped natural resources, or in an area of geopolitical importance. If you're already catholic, but poor, they're done with you, but if you're not, they're coming to your area to turn you into a catholic.
So, I stiffed them in the collection. I mostly stiff them, except I'll give them a couple bucks to keep the lights and heat on, sometimes.
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niyad
(113,259 posts)as individuals may not see women as less than fully human, it does not matter, because the founding principles of the church are based on misogyny and patriarchal bs.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)Which ones espouse this do you suppose?
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Thanks for the re, niyad. I always like your political viewpoint.
niyad
(113,259 posts)or simply refused to bow to a male authority figure. we have not forgotten.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)I know about a lot of the evil moves a lot of those men made, historically and currently make.
I never back them, and oppose them where I can.
niyad
(113,259 posts)we do appreciate your efforts, and those of others like you. without them, the church would not have made even the little bit of progress it has.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)Sister Simone Campbell from Nuns on the Bus and NETWORK is good. Sister Pat Farrell from LCWR is, too. Nun Justice is good, Maryknolls are.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/03/vatican-crackdown-catholic-sister-pat-farrell_n_1735672.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/us/us-nuns-weigh-response-to-scathing-vatican-critique.html
When the clergy goes the right way, good people support them. When they go the wrong way, good people oppose them. When they issue unsound edicts, we ignore them.
I was catholic before that runaway IG farben chemical salesman became pope and brought his hitler youth buddy in to enforce 'doctrine'.
Brigid hid the Irish naturists inside the violent conquering wave. "...she founded a monastery in Kildare, called the Church of the Oak. It was built above a pagan shrine to the Celtic goddess Brigid, which was beneath a large oak tree."
http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=453
Skittles
(153,150 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)that could help end poverty. I know I'm stupid but I would think many of the poor around the world would benefit from some family planning. But if we did that. Then a certain archaic, outdated organization wouldn't get as many members for life.
niyad
(113,259 posts)of some program many years ago that showed several churches in very poor areas in south america. the people were in extreme poverty, and yet, there were the churches, with gold and jewels in the altar pieces and all over. pretty damned sickening.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)won't need it in heaven.
niyad
(113,259 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)can with...... OK not really, but still. A good start indeed.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)On all the things he DOES control, he continues the regressive, anti-human policies of his church.
"Do as I say, not as I do."