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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 01:56 PM Nov 2016

Pentagon and intelligence community chiefs have urged Obama to remove the head of the NSA

Source: The Washington Post

By Ellen Nakashima November 19 at 12:46 PM

The heads of the Pentagon and the nation’s intelligence community have recommended to President Obama that the director of the National Security Agency, Adm. Michael S. Rogers, be removed.

The recommendation, delivered to the White House last month, was made by Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., according to several U.S. officials familiar with the matter.

Action has been delayed, some administration officials said, because relieving Rogers of his duties is tied to another controversial recommendation: to create separate chains of command at the NSA and the military’s cyberwarfare unit, a recommendation by Clapper and Carter that has been stalled because of other issues.

The news comes as Rogers is being considered by President-Elect Donald Trump to be his nominee for DNI, replacing Clapper as the official who oversees all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies. In a move apparently unprecedented for a military officer, Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday at Trump Tower. That caused consternation at senior levels of the administration, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal personnel matters.

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Pentagon and intelligence community chiefs have urged Obama to remove the head of the NSA (Original Post) DonViejo Nov 2016 OP
Was it even legal for him to secretly meet with Trump? CottonBear Nov 2016 #1
Oh, I don't know lets ask Comey if he had his cell phone out to the dumpster turbinetree Nov 2016 #13
These General Officers will be like Turkey's Military phallon Nov 2016 #2
I think you give Con Man Don too much credit there... JHB Nov 2016 #4
It's Flynn and Bannon that scare me phallon Nov 2016 #5
I don't know why this thread isn't at top of DU phallon Nov 2016 #3
Is this the same guy who cilla4progress Nov 2016 #6
IT IS! cilla4progress Nov 2016 #7
WTF indeed. Whose side is this guy on? N/T CottonBear Nov 2016 #8
"Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump"... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2016 #9
Trump Only Considers Loyalists. What Did the NSA Chief Know About The Hacking KittyWampus Nov 2016 #10
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2016 #11
We have to pay attention, since Trump could well be some trojan horse, or Putin pussy. ancianita Nov 2016 #12
Quid Pro Quo. I am guessing we know who hacked the vote for Trump now. McCamy Taylor Nov 2016 #14
Smells like it....nt 2naSalit Nov 2016 #15
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Nov 2016 #16

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
1. Was it even legal for him to secretly meet with Trump?
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:07 PM
Nov 2016

Can the military do more than relieve him of duty? Can he be charged with a crime in a military court of law?

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
13. Oh, I don't know lets ask Comey if he had his cell phone out to the dumpster
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 11:22 PM
Nov 2016

on what he was going to do.
And yes he can be charged with treason, and he can be fired by the president, that classified clearance, does not mean that he can have a sit down with some fascist just for giggles and talk shop, like hows your orange hair doing today, get your gell on correctly, and by the way did you hear your "boy" (race bannon) got heckled by citizens at a play, that just don't like a bigot such as yourself and the with white hair "guy"


P***d off still

phallon

(260 posts)
2. These General Officers will be like Turkey's Military
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 02:15 PM
Nov 2016

and they will assist Trump to quell dissent.

You know why Trump brought up Gen. MacArthur?

Because he led the military crushing of WW I vets in Lafayette Square.

Little wink and nod to commanders to go full Patton on their troops.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
4. I think you give Con Man Don too much credit there...
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 03:39 PM
Nov 2016

Last edited Sat Nov 26, 2016, 12:52 PM - Edit history (1)

All he knows about military affairs is name-dropping MacArthur and Patton.

MacArthur, because he was famed for his Trump-like taste in decor, Patton because he thinks the movie was real.

phallon

(260 posts)
3. I don't know why this thread isn't at top of DU
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 03:34 PM
Nov 2016

This is so chilling, the head of the NSA under President Obama with his vast surveillance department violates the chain of command for a political appointment?

Isn't this a court martial offense under UCMJ?

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
6. Is this the same guy who
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 03:45 PM
Nov 2016

Just last week was saying the Russians hacked our election? Could something else be going on?

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
9. "Rogers, without notifying superiors, traveled to New York to meet with Trump"...
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 07:18 PM
Nov 2016

Bet his lips were brown when he left.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
10. Trump Only Considers Loyalists. What Did the NSA Chief Know About The Hacking
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 07:20 PM
Nov 2016

Of the DNC/Podesa/Voter Data Bases and what did he do about it?

What did the NSA do about Russian hacking on Election Day?

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
12. We have to pay attention, since Trump could well be some trojan horse, or Putin pussy.
Sat Nov 19, 2016, 08:53 PM
Nov 2016

It's no small thing when the Pentagon says to beware of Adm. Michael S. Rogers, head of the NSA and possible counter-intelligence man, meeting with a Russian trojan horse like Trump.

In Trump Tower, rather than Washington. Way too much fucking stealth in that.

Trump, in debt to Russian oligarchs, is more than likely to manipulate events in Putin's favor, even if it's to do nothing to protect our historical allies against Russia's aggressions.

The Pentagon leaks to the press as our security apparatus gets meddled with, possibly weakened, by this wheeler-dealer know-nothing.

No 'Hamilton' bs dramas, we have to pay attention.

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